Integrate or leave: Merkel?s Bavaria allies want ?dominant? German-Christian values enshrined in law

[Relic]

The Bavarian ruling party and Merkel?s ally CSU has proposed a set of new measures aimed at toughening Germany?s refugee policy and fostering integration and particularly called for enshrining the priority of the German traditional and Christian values in the legislation.

?Germany must stay Germany,? says the document by the Christian Social Union party (CSU), which was published by the Bavarian Kurier daily. ?We are against our open-to-the-world country being changed through migration and inflow of refugees,? it adds, emphasizing that ?it is not the Germans, who should look up to the refugees?? but, on the contrary those who come to Germany should adopt German culture.

The paper also lashes out at the multi-culturalism policy advocated by Merkel. It proposes to introduce a ?dominant culture? (Leitkultur) rule in Bavaria that would mean the opposite to multi-culturalism and would encompass all the German traditional national and Christian values as well as customs and traditions.

Such dominant, or ?guiding? culture, the paper says, should become the basis of social development and integration. It calls it ?the best countermeasure against the [creation of] parallel societies and ghettos? demanding to enshrine the particular set of values in the Bavarian Constitution.

The document also calls for an introduction of an annual upper limit for new arrivals that would amount to 200,000 people, citing the necessity to curb the massive refugee influx to facilitate successful integration.

It also says that Germany should favor migrants and refugees with ?Christian western culture,? which is close to the European values.

The paper also advocates the re-introduction of full border controls on the German borders ?as long as [the system] of protection of the EU external borders does not function,? stressing that the nation ?should not tolerate illegal border crossings.?

At the same time, the paper says that only those who are granted entry should be able to come to Germany with all asylum requests being processed directly at the border in specially established ?transit zones.? The document also points out that those who are denied entry should be sent back directly at the border.
?Find another country to wear burqa?

The CSU policy paper also advocates stricter integration rules and says that integration is a duty of those who come to live in Germany. It particularly calls burqa and niqab ?a uniform of Islamism, an absolute barrier to integration and a symbol of the repression of women that is unacceptable in [German] culture.?

?Those, who do not want to give up wearing burqa and niqab, should find another country,? the paper says, adding that the CSU will seek ?a ban on burqa in all public places, wherever it is legally possible.?

The document also says that any forms of ?parallel justice? and ?erosion of the German system of justice,? including unofficial Muslim sharia courts, child marriages, forced marriages and polygamy, are unaccepted and should be by no means tolerated.

The paper adds that Germany also should not ?tolerate immigration into its welfare system,? emphasizing that refugees and migrants must provide for living themselves instead of just getting social benefits.

Another point of the CSU is that asylum does not equals to a ?permit for committing crimes in Germany? and those found guilty of committing any crimes should automatically lose their right for asylum and be sent out.
?One cannot be servant of two masters?

The issue of double citizenship is particularly highlighted in the new CSU policy paper, which refers to it as a huge barrier to integration that leads to ?double loyalty.?

?One cannot be a servant of two masters,? the paper says, adding that ?those who want to be Germans do not need any other citizenship.? The paper demands an end to dual citizenship as well as an annulation of the regulation that allowed the children of non-German citizens, who were born on German soil and lived in Germany for a long time, to be automatically recognized as Germans.

The CSU also expressed its opposition to the idea of visa liberalization for Turkish citizens and criticized Turkey for ?moving away from European and western values? as well as for not fulfilling the necessary requirements for visa liberalization. It also said that the implementation of the refugee deal between Turkey and the EU should not be linked to some ?unrelated issues, such as visa liberalization or Turkey?s accession to the EU.?
?Irresponsible? and ?racist?

The document immediately provoked a wave of indignation among German left-wing politicians, who labeled it ?irresponsible? and ?racist.? Some of them said that it is highly reminiscent of what the right-wing populist party, Alternative for Germany (AfD), demands.

The Green Party leader, Simone Peter, said that the CSU was apparently seeking to become ?the Bavarian sister party of the AfD.? At the moment, CSU is commonly referred to as the sister party of the Merkel?s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), with both parties sharing the common origin and core program. The CDU does not operate in Bavaria while being present in all other 15 German states.

Jan Korte, an MP from the Left Party, denounced the new policy paper of the CSU as ?irresponsible, backward-looking and brimming with hypocrisy.? He also called the idea of selecting migrants by cultural background ?racist? and a violation of the German constitution and international human rights conventions.

The new policy paper comes after the electoral success of the right-wing populist and anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD), which beat Merkel?s CDU in several regional elections a year before the national elections to the parliament.

On September 4, the AfD placed second in state elections, ahead of Chancellor Angela Merkel?s Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in her home state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Established in 2013 following the euro crisis, the AfD is already represented in eight out of 16 state parliaments.

Horst Seehofer, the leader of the conservative CSU, has long criticized Angela Merkel?s open-door policy and earlier already proposed to introduce a cap of 200,000 refugees pro year.

Seehofer, who is also the head of the German state of Bavaria, which is a transit region for the vast majority of all asylum seekers arriving in Germany, several times threatened to take the German Chancellor to the Constitutional Court if she fails to change the country?s refugee policy.

https://www.rt.com/news/358733-bavar...inant-culture/

[_Richard_]

sad to hear

[DrJsn]

This is a slippery slope. I think this culture and religious clash between whites, christians, and westerners, and the middle easterners and muslims, is going to end very very bad sooner or later. Some sort of war. Its not going to be good.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

sad to hear

I disagree - it is because the feelings of the existing population has not been recognised that we now have a rise in the power of the right.

If people were not feeling threatened then they would not vote for the parties of the right.

Enshrine their culture in law and they wont feel that it is being eroded and that they have lost their country to immigrants who do not look like them, sound like them, or have anything in common with them.

This is the lesson from the Brexit vote, right wing ideology gains a foot hold when ordinary citizens are afraid.

And yes the principal of adhere to our rules and values or find somewhere else should definitely be applied.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Relic

The Bavarian ruling party and Merkel?s ally CSU has proposed a set of new measures aimed at toughening Germany?s refugee policy and fostering integration and particularly called for enshrining the priority of the German traditional and Christian values in the legislation.

?Germany must stay Germany,? says the document by the Christian Social Union party (CSU), which was published by the Bavarian Kurier daily. ?We are against our open-to-the-world country being changed through migration and inflow of refugees,? it adds, emphasizing that ?it is not the Germans, who should look up to the refugees?? but, on the contrary those who come to Germany should adopt German culture.

The paper also lashes out at the multi-culturalism policy advocated by Merkel. It proposes to introduce a ?dominant culture? (Leitkultur) rule in Bavaria that would mean the opposite to multi-culturalism and would encompass all the German traditional national and Christian values as well as customs and traditions.

Such dominant, or ?guiding? culture, the paper says, should become the basis of social development and integration. It calls it ?the best countermeasure against the [creation of] parallel societies and ghettos? demanding to enshrine the particular set of values in the Bavarian Constitution.

The document also calls for an introduction of an annual upper limit for new arrivals that would amount to 200,000 people, citing the necessity to curb the massive refugee influx to facilitate successful integration.

It also says that Germany should favor migrants and refugees with ?Christian western culture,? which is close to the European values.

The paper also advocates the re-introduction of full border controls on the German borders ?as long as [the system] of protection of the EU external borders does not function,? stressing that the nation ?should not tolerate illegal border crossings.?

At the same time, the paper says that only those who are granted entry should be able to come to Germany with all asylum requests being processed directly at the border in specially established ?transit zones.? The document also points out that those who are denied entry should be sent back directly at the border.
?Find another country to wear burqa?

The CSU policy paper also advocates stricter integration rules and says that integration is a duty of those who come to live in Germany. It particularly calls burqa and niqab ?a uniform of Islamism, an absolute barrier to integration and a symbol of the repression of women that is unacceptable in [German] culture.?

?Those, who do not want to give up wearing burqa and niqab, should find another country,? the paper says, adding that the CSU will seek ?a ban on burqa in all public places, wherever it is legally possible.?

The document also says that any forms of ?parallel justice? and ?erosion of the German system of justice,? including unofficial Muslim sharia courts, child marriages, forced marriages and polygamy, are unaccepted and should be by no means tolerated.

The paper adds that Germany also should not ?tolerate immigration into its welfare system,? emphasizing that refugees and migrants must provide for living themselves instead of just getting social benefits.

Another point of the CSU is that asylum does not equals to a ?permit for committing crimes in Germany? and those found guilty of committing any crimes should automatically lose their right for asylum and be sent out.
?One cannot be servant of two masters?

The issue of double citizenship is particularly highlighted in the new CSU policy paper, which refers to it as a huge barrier to integration that leads to ?double loyalty.?

?One cannot be a servant of two masters,? the paper says, adding that ?those who want to be Germans do not need any other citizenship.? The paper demands an end to dual citizenship as well as an annulation of the regulation that allowed the children of non-German citizens, who were born on German soil and lived in Germany for a long time, to be automatically recognized as Germans.

The CSU also expressed its opposition to the idea of visa liberalization for Turkish citizens and criticized Turkey for ?moving away from European and western values? as well as for not fulfilling the necessary requirements for visa liberalization. It also said that the implementation of the refugee deal between Turkey and the EU should not be linked to some ?unrelated issues, such as visa liberalization or Turkey?s accession to the EU.?
?Irresponsible? and ?racist?

The document immediately provoked a wave of indignation among German left-wing politicians, who labeled it ?irresponsible? and ?racist.? Some of them said that it is highly reminiscent of what the right-wing populist party, Alternative for Germany (AfD), demands.

The Green Party leader, Simone Peter, said that the CSU was apparently seeking to become ?the Bavarian sister party of the AfD.? At the moment, CSU is commonly referred to as the sister party of the Merkel?s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), with both parties sharing the common origin and core program. The CDU does not operate in Bavaria while being present in all other 15 German states.

Jan Korte, an MP from the Left Party, denounced the new policy paper of the CSU as ?irresponsible, backward-looking and brimming with hypocrisy.? He also called the idea of selecting migrants by cultural background ?racist? and a violation of the German constitution and international human rights conventions.

The new policy paper comes after the electoral success of the right-wing populist and anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (AfD), which beat Merkel?s CDU in several regional elections a year before the national elections to the parliament.

On September 4, the AfD placed second in state elections, ahead of Chancellor Angela Merkel?s Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in her home state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Established in 2013 following the euro crisis, the AfD is already represented in eight out of 16 state parliaments.

Horst Seehofer, the leader of the conservative CSU, has long criticized Angela Merkel?s open-door policy and earlier already proposed to introduce a cap of 200,000 refugees pro year.

Seehofer, who is also the head of the German state of Bavaria, which is a transit region for the vast majority of all asylum seekers arriving in Germany, several times threatened to take the German Chancellor to the Constitutional Court if she fails to change the country?s refugee policy.

https://www.rt.com/news/358733-bavar...inant-culture/

this is the part where I point out that the Christian values in Germany have defined the culture which allowed great advancement in society, in fact such advances and such a much better life style that the Muslim who have totally fucked up every part of their culture and society need a place to go for free.

[pimpmaster9000]

germany would have a point if it did not lick US invasion asshole so much...these refugees are running away from the effects of US foreign policy...nobody really wants to leave their country and be a 3rd grade citizen working for a low salary with high living costs abroad...

the germans voting right wing is like trying to cure cancer with aspirin for the headache a brain tumor is causing ...

if the EU wants to stop the refugee influx in an effective way it should impose sanctions on the USA every time the USIS invades...6 different countries got bombed yesterday by the USA...guess where the refugees from those countries are going?

sure you can build walls and push the problem to other countries like turkey...watch the whole region around europe become like turkey LOL and you will be in bigger shit than you were before...

until the EU starts confiscating US airplanes and ships and filling them full with refugees and sending them to the USA the USA will never stop invading...solving the cause of a problem and not the result is always a good way to go

[Relic]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

sad to hear

What, the extent to which you have been lied to?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DrJsn

This is a slippery slope. I think this culture and religious clash between whites, christians, and westerners, and the middle easterners and muslims, is going to end very very bad sooner or later. Some sort of war. Its not going to be good.

We are standing on a slight incline now. The politicians want to push us down to the point there is a lot more bloodshed.

It's not just about culture. It's about living standards. Take out the huge rise in earning of the top 5% and most of the rest are getting poorer. Houses are getting more expensive, decent jobs harder to find. And public services suffering because taxes aren't sharing the wealth.

Germans can't afford a million low-skilled Czechs, let alone people who can't speak German and believe the State should provide for them.

As for Merkel's excuse about dropping population and Germany needs workers. Isn't that that why the created the EU Freedom of Movement rules?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I disagree - it is because the feelings of the existing population has not been recognised that we now have a rise in the power of the right.

If people were not feeling threatened then they would not vote for the parties of the right.

Enshrine their culture in law and they wont feel that it is being eroded and that they have lost their country to immigrants who do not look like them, sound like them, or have anything in common with them.

This is the lesson from the Brexit vote, right wing ideology gains a foot hold when ordinary citizens are afraid.

And yes the principal of adhere to our rules and values or find somewhere else should definitely be applied.

When the Left and Middle abondon the people, who else is there?

Personally, I would welcome a shift to the Right. Because most of these migrant Muslims will not integrate come the Eastern Europe and see how the community that migrated here over 500 years have fit in. Plus these single men will soon want their Muslim Brides to join them. Then have children. They have said so.

[crockett]

Isn't that sweet. German Christians want relgious law set in place. Perhaps they can soon ban bikinis and strip clubs.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by DrJsn

This is a slippery slope. I think this culture and religious clash between whites, christians, and westerners, and the middle easterners and muslims, is going to end very very bad sooner or later. Some sort of war. Its not going to be good.

Islam is at war with the western culture, if you don't believe that and understand that are a bit dense of really politically correct. which might be the same as dense in some areas... LOL!!

[DrJsn]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Islam is at war with the western culture, if you don't believe that and understand that are a bit dense of really politically correct. which might be the same as dense in some areas... LOL!!

You're right, but do you think the west should go to war against Islam?

[DrJsn]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The politicians want to push us down to the point there is a lot more bloodshed.

This is true. Forcing these integrations isn't working, the sentiment of the people is changing for worse and worse. Soon citizens will be calling for bloodshed.