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Old 09-14-2016, 09:05 AM   #51
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You nailed it.
Unemployment is everything. It's very simple. When people are unemployed, they are unable to spend money. When people are unable to spend money, they don't buy stuff.

I am not saying Obama is our hero. The ONLY solution to the economic crisis the United States was facing was time. Chances are Mitt Romney or my pet dog could have done just as good as Obama did on the economy.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:19 AM   #52
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Unemployment is everything. It's very simple. When people are unemployed, they are unable to spend money. When people are unable to spend money, they don't buy stuff.

I am not saying Obama is our hero. The ONLY solution to the economic crisis the United States was facing was time. Chances are Mitt Romney or my pet dog could have done just as good as Obama did on the economy.
GDP is everything...

when employment grows, while GDP stays the same, it means that more people are working but our wealth isn't growing...

it's kinda like working more hours for same pay, certainly not a good outcome...
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:24 AM   #53
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Yes, this is correct. Income remains less than it was in 2000 before the recession. But we are clearly heading in the right direction.

Why would we want "change"? Do we want income to go back down? Do we want unemployment to go back up?

The recession we had is not a "four or eight year problem". It's a ten to twenty year problem. There is no magic button to push to fix this.
So what you are saying is you are celebrating mediocrity ?

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Old 09-14-2016, 09:27 AM   #54
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GDP is everything...

when employment grows, while GDP stays the same, it means that more people are working but our wealth isn't growing...

it's kinda like working more hours for same pay, certainly not a good outcome...
Economic production and growth, what GDP represents, has a large impact on nearly everyone within the economy. When GDP growth is strong, firms hire more workers and can afford to pay higher salaries and wages, which leads to more spending by consumers on goods and services
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:34 AM   #55
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Unemployment is everything. It's very simple. When people are unemployed, they are unable to spend money. When people are unable to spend money, they don't buy stuff.

I am not saying Obama is our hero. The ONLY solution to the economic crisis the United States was facing was time. Chances are Mitt Romney or my pet dog could have done just as good as Obama did on the economy.
You don't know what would have happened, but Obama's gains did happen with a republican congress, not a democrat congress, they failed

Problem is that the unemployment rate doesn't mean shit
The Official Unemployment Rate Is Wrong, Says Guy Who Used To Calculate It | Huffington Post

94 million out of work, remember that number
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:52 AM   #56
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What's happening is all the profits from the economy, are going to the very few.
Yes. Everything is working as intended.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:07 AM   #57
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You don't know what would have happened, but Obama's gains did happen with a republican congress, not a democrat congress, they failed
I don't care who did it so long as it's done. How many times do I need to say this - I don't think Obama is our hero. What fixed this isn't the President or Congress. What fixed this was time.
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Old 09-14-2016, 10:53 AM   #58
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I don't care who did it so long as it's done. How many times do I need to say this - I don't think Obama is our hero. What fixed this isn't the President or Congress. What fixed this was time.
Too much time, it's finally fixing itself despite Obama's best efforts.
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:31 AM   #59
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Rochard, seems you jumped the gun, the Median Wage has dropped almost 1% this year so far
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/t...160228661.html
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:33 AM   #60
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Oops, America's Incomes Are Actually Stalling

Probably an indicator that yesterday's Census Bureau data was incorrectly adjusted. They use an "adjusted for inflation" metric that's artificially low. Real costs are way up (health, rent, mortgage).
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Old 09-14-2016, 11:35 AM   #61
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Old 09-14-2016, 02:49 PM   #62
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