could a recount change hillary/trump US election results?

[brassmonkey]

Defeated Green Party candidate Jill Stein is asking for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania where Mr Trump won narrow victories.

The next US President wrote on Twitter that the "badly defeated and demoralized" Democrats were now joining the Green Party campaign for recounts.

He said: "The Democrats, when they incorrectly thought they were going to win, asked that the election night tabulation be accepted. Not so anymore!"

Will the recounts change anything?

If Mr Trump's victories in all three states are overturned then the election would tip in Mrs Clinton's favour.

This is because the three states offered a total of 46 votes in the all-important Electoral College.

Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

But it is extremely unlikely that the recounts will uncover enough evidence of electoral fraud to overturn the results.

For Ms Clinton to win all three states, it thought that she would require a swing of more than 100,000 votes across the three states.

Mr Trump won Wisconsin by just over 22,500 votes, Michigan by about 10,700 votes and Pennsylvania by slightly more than 68,000.

Even Ms Stein and Mrs Clinton's campaign have admitted that the recounts are unlikely to chance the outcome of the US election 2016.

The Green Party candidate said: "These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the US election system is."

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[Barry-xlovecam]

This is political PSYOPS.

Make the other side defend -- looking for any real logic is pointless.

[Bladewire]

It's getting under Trumps skin, that's why I donated and all I expected, mission accomplished! Ride it out as long as possible and keep DontheCon scared

[wehateporn]

Probably someone has tampered with the votes

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's getting under Trumps skin, that's why I donated and all I expected, mission accomplished! Ride it out as long as possible and keep DontheCon scared

I donated too. Shhh!

[Barry-xlovecam]

Jill Stein for Troll of the Year

✔ Bump the Trump 2016

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by **********

I donated too. Shhh!

Thank you for your patriotism

I always wondered how much of that money was donated from outside the U.S. Half? More?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by **********

I donated too. Shhh!

Pretty sure it's illegal for a US candidate to accept donations from foreign sources. Wait, didn't Barry donate as well? Seems like someone needs to investigate Jill Steins donation drive. Foreign entities are interfering with the elections it appears after all

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Pretty sure it's illegal for a US candidate to accept donations from foreign sources. Wait, didn't Barry donate as well? Seems like someone needs to investigate Jill Steins donation drive. Foreign entities are interfering with the elections it appears after all

Yeah the donation isn't tax deductable.

I'll let you research the rest and report back.

It seems I always post facts/education here and the other person goes silent with no rebutle, until the next thread where they post not knowing all facts, then I post facts & knowledge, then silence... Over and over again

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Defeated Green Party candidate Jill Stein is asking for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania where Mr Trump won narrow victories.

The next US President wrote on Twitter that the "badly defeated and demoralized" Democrats were now joining the Green Party campaign for recounts.

He said: "The Democrats, when they incorrectly thought they were going to win, asked that the election night tabulation be accepted. Not so anymore!"

Will the recounts change anything?

If Mr Trump's victories in all three states are overturned then the election would tip in Mrs Clinton's favour.

This is because the three states offered a total of 46 votes in the all-important Electoral College.

Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

But it is extremely unlikely that the recounts will uncover enough evidence of electoral fraud to overturn the results.

For Ms Clinton to win all three states, it thought that she would require a swing of more than 100,000 votes across the three states.

Mr Trump won Wisconsin by just over 22,500 votes, Michigan by about 10,700 votes and Pennsylvania by slightly more than 68,000.

Even Ms Stein and Mrs Clinton's campaign have admitted that the recounts are unlikely to chance the outcome of the US election 2016.

The Green Party candidate said: "These recounts are part of an election integrity movement to attempt to shine a light on just how untrustworthy the US election system is."

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I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah the donation isn't tax deductable.

I'll let you research the rest and report back.

It seems I always post facts/education here and the other person goes silent with no rebutle, until the next thread where they post not knowing all facts, then I post facts & knowledge, then silence... Over and over again

No candidate is allowed to accept foreign donations. What facts are you referring to except mine?


"political candidates are not allowed to receive campaign donations from foreign nationals. Foreign nationals include: foreign governments, political parties, corporations, associations, partnerships, persons with foreign citizenship, and non-permanent resident immigrants. Permanent residents, or "green card" holders, may donate to political candidates.

Foreign nationals are allowed to undertake some political actions in the U.S., as long as those actions are not "connected with any election to political office at the federal, state, or local levels."

Overseas Fundraising Legal?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

Logic & math aren't your strong points.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Overall Mr Trump won 370 Electoral College votes, well above the winning threshold of 270 and Mrs Clinton's 232.

Originally Posted by Dvae

I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

No candidate is allowed to accept foreign donations. What facts are you referring to except mine?


"political candidates are not allowed to receive campaign donations from foreign nationals. Foreign nationals include: foreign governments, political parties, corporations, associations, partnerships, persons with foreign citizenship, and non-permanent resident immigrants. Permanent residents, or "green card" holders, may donate to political candidates.

Foreign nationals are allowed to undertake some political actions in the U.S., as long as those actions are not "connected with any election to political office at the federal, state, or local levels."

Overseas Fundraising Legal?

Crowd sourced grassroots non tax deductable donations for a vote recount movement are not tax deductible donations for a candidate running for office. Different accounts. Different goals.

Capiche?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

Election Results 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us...nsylvania.html

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Logic & math aren't your strong points.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

370 + 232 = 602

But there's only 538 total electoral college votes

Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Crowd sourced grassroots non tax deductable donations for a vote recount movement are not tax deductible donations for a candidate running for office. Different accounts. Different goals.

Capiche?

Do you have proof she used separate accounts? Also, she is a candidate demanding a recount. Not a "movement" She used the crowd sourcing idea to raise funds for what she is doing as a candidate. From the looks of it it was all done through her campaign site/billing. It's going to get looked into. I'm already in the process of making sure of that.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

Except you used the 370 figure as a basis for your rant. Now you are backtracking.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Except you used the 370 figure as a basis for your rant. Now you are backtracking.

you really are a special kind of dumb!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I really am a special kind of dumb!

Originally Posted by Dvae

Maybe you two dolts should read the article. The 370 number is not mine.

Provide your link to the 370 number so we know you didn't make it up/lie.

[baddog]

yeah, like they made an error of 10k, 22k and 68k

Some of you are so delusional, besides being liars.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Provide your link to the 370 number so we know you didn't make it up/lie.

the OP, Mr. Copy and Paste used it in his post plus he provided a link to it.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Do you have proof she used separate accounts? Also, she is a candidate demanding a recount. Not a "movement" She used the crowd sourcing idea to raise funds for what she is doing as a candidate. From the looks of it it was all done through her campaign site/billing. It's going to get looked into. I'm already in the process of making sure of that.

You do that stud

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dvae

the OP, Mr. Copy and Paste used it in his post plus he provided a link to it.

Ok the actual real numbers are currently 306/232. WI 10 PA 20 MI 16

Trump is in serious danger of losing when fraud is found in PA MI & WI and the flip to Hillary Clinton Madame President Elect , that's why Trump is fighting a recount so hard.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok the actual real numbers are currently 306/232

I knew that before my first post.

Instead of accusing me of lying or making it up why didn't you just read the article?

..and just for the record hillary will never president.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I knew that before my first post.

No you didnt. If you did, then you just admitted to posting a lie saying Trump had 370 and no way of it being overturned if Clinton won MI PA & WI. Lie

Originally Posted by Dvae

Instead of accusing me of lying or making it up why didn't you just read the article

Because you make stuff up here all the time and when you're called on it you go silent forever, but post in other threads.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I knew that before my first post.

No you didn't. Because if you really knew Trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that Trump might have 370.

[ErectMedia]

Trump Nation Bitches Suck It Up

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by tclgirls

no you didn't. Because if you really knew trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that trump might have 370.

^^ qft ^^

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

No you didnt. If you did, then you just admitted to posting a lie saying Trump had 370 and no way of it being overturned if Clinton won MI PA & WI. Lie

Because you make stuff up here all the time and when you're called on it you go silent forever, but post in other threads.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

No you didn't. Because if you really knew Trump had 306, then there would be no reason for you to suggest that Trump might have 370.

I said IF Trump has 370 which the article used and I knew it was incorrect, which was the point of my post.
370 - 46 he would still win my a mile.

I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Jill Stein for Troll of the Year

✔ Bump the Trump 2016

LANSING, Mich. ? The Latest on presidential recount efforts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania (all times local):

12:40 p.m.

Michigan?s elections board has deadlocked on President-elect Donald Trump?s request to prevent a recount, which means it will start next week unless the courts intervene.

The Trump has spoken

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I said IF Trump has 370 which the article used and I knew it was incorrect, which was the point of my post.
370 - 46 he would still win my a mile.

So you based your argument on the 370 figure that you knew was incorrect....which necessarily invalidates your initial argument. Genius.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by baddog

yeah, like they made an error of 10k, 22k and 68k

Some of you are so delusional, besides being liars.

[beavr]

Not at all.

[Bladewire]

^^ fake nick ^^

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The Trump has spoken

Fake tweet.

Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by **********

Fake tweet.

Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.

hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Dvae

I have some really bad news for all you haters. Your math doesn't add up.
If Trump has 370 and the 3 states flip Trump still has way more than then 270.
It's a witch hunt anyways it's not going to change anything at this point.

Trump is your new president - get used to it!

Trump lost by nearly 3 million votes at this point. "If" it turns out there was "miss counts" or fraud in these 3 states his loss will be even greater. You start getting up to 4 million or 5 and time to question the EC's reliability.

This would then require the EC to consider not voting for him given that the "majority" of voters did not vote for him and that "majority" number is growing daily as all votes are counted. Added to this the only reason Trump won many of the "battle ground" states is because they have been gerrymandered to fuck and back.

This is why the "popular vote" no longer matches the EC vote, because many areas of Florida for instance should of been Democrat, but have been rigged until they turn red by drawing lots of fantastic lines on the maps to make certain area part of other voting districts..

Basically Republican have cheated the system in states they control like FL for example. In 4 votes I voted in 4 different districts while living at the same address.. Why? Because that area was "always" blue and the Republican run shit hole of a state kept redrawing the lines until it finally turned red they election.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by **********

Trump's an asshole already, no need to share fake tweets about him.