Portland Oregon Offering Free College Tuition

[kane]

News coming out today that here in Oregon Portland State University will be offering free tuition for 4 years. To qualify you have to have maintained a 3.4 GPA in high school and qualify for the Federal Pell Grant Program.

Looks like Bernie has caused some change. We'll see how this plays out.

[Sly]

Bring on the easy classes for 3.4...

We have a shortage of doctors. Not communication majors.

[brassmonkey]

pell grants are for low income

[Horatio Caine]

Yes, we need 1000 more useless sociology and 18th century literature majors on over saturated job market.

[mineistaken]

Judging from replies sounds like a libby university.

[kane]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Judging from replies sounds like a libby university.

It's Portland. We keep it weird and very liberal here. That said, the number of people accepted into the college will not be increasing so there won't be any more liberal arts majors than there already are.

[woj]

In other news... Oregon Portland State University will now have a budget problem, tuition going up 20% for everyone else in 2017...

[kane]

Originally Posted by woj

In other news... Oregon Portland State University will now have a budget problem, tuition going up 20% for everyone else in 2017...

There has been no word on how they plan to pay for this yet, this is a very real possibility.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by woj

In other news... Oregon Portland State University will now have a budget problem, tuition going up 20% for everyone else in 2017...

well they need to fill the gaps. college forces people to change paths because of income.

[woj]

Originally Posted by kane

It's Portland. We keep it weird and very liberal here. That said, the number of people accepted into the college will not be increasing so there won't be any more liberal arts majors than there already are.

so if "the number of people accepted into the college will not be increasing"... doesn't that mean that some people who were previously qualified, willing to pay, and able to afford to go there, will be unable to attend now (for lack of available spots)? How is that desirable in any way?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by woj

so if "the number of people accepted into the college will not be increasing"... doesn't that mean that some people who were previously qualified, willing to pay, and able to afford to go there, will be unable to attend now (for lack of available spots)? How is that desirable in any way?

It creates warm fuzzies for administrators too afraid to bust their ass to create something difficult and real.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by kane

There has been no word on how they plan to pay for this yet, this is a very real possibility.

Hillary said she would pay for it all, out of her own filthy pocket.

[kane]

Originally Posted by woj

so if "the number of people accepted into the college will not be increasing"... doesn't that mean that some people who were previously qualified, willing to pay, and able to afford to go there, will be unable to attend now (for lack of available spots)? How is that desirable in any way?

As far as I understand the application and acceptance policy will not change. So they accept people as they normally would then they look at their grades and finances to see if they qualify. The more I read about it the more it looks like they aren't really giving that much away. A person will still have to pay for room and board if they live on campus and it gives them no transportation or living expenses. Annual tuition and fees runs around $8,500 per year. Pell Grant would pay $5,800 and there is a program called Oregon Promise that would pay an additional $2,200. So if they qualify for Pell Grant they likely would have gotten free tuition anyway. So it looks like the actual number of people this will help is pretty small, a person would have to qualify for Pell Grant, but not Oregon Promise in order to benefit from it.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

pell grants are for low income

When you say "low income" you mean "students" who.... At most have crappy minimum wage job.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When you say "low income" you mean "students" who.... At most have crappy minimum wage job.

It refers to the parents.

If you are a kid looking to get a break on college but your parents make good bank, you are SOL. Always thought that was bizarre.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by kane

There has been no word on how they plan to pay for this yet, this is a very real possibility.

The leftist way

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Judging from replies sounds like a libby university.

Yea I mean we sure can't expect any of those Religious for profit universities to give free education now can we..

What would Jesus do after all!!!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

The leftist way

and how's that different from lowering taxes and raising spending the "rightist way"?

[woj]

Originally Posted by crockett

and how's that different from lowering taxes and raising spending the "rightist way"?

I think you are confused about what "leftist way" is... leftist way is giving one group of people free tuition, while raising tuition by 20% (or whatever) for everyone else... as a result, nothing positive gets accomplished, except one group of people gets a freebie at the expense of the other group... and you guys call it "progress"...

"rightist way" on the other hand, is more or less the status quo... if you have a desire to invest in your education, you invest your own money, you don't look for some sucker to pay for it...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by woj

I think you are confused about what "leftist way" is... leftist way is giving one group of people free tuition, while raising tuition by 20% (or whatever) for everyone else... as a result, nothing positive gets accomplished, except one group of people gets a freebie at the expense of the other group... and you guys call it "progress"...

"rightist way" on the other hand, is more or less the status quo... if you have a desire to invest in your education, you invest your own money, you don't look for some sucker to pay for it...

You mean like Trump.. he gets to make money and bitch and complain but doesn't have to pay any taxes. 1 guy gets a free ride while everyone else pays for it..

I see where you are going with this...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by crockett

You mean like Trump.. he gets to make money and bitch and complain but doesn't have to pay any taxes. 1 guy gets a free ride while everyone else pays for it..

I see where you are going with this...

Trump (alleged) not paying taxes has nothing to do with leftism or rightism, it has to do with a person (by cheating or by loophole or by whatever) personally choosing not to pay taxes (whether said tax was introduced by leftist or rightist is irrelevant).