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Old 11-02-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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BREAKING: Florida Early Ballots Cast: Clinton +8 & 28% Republicans Voted Clinton!

The methodology of this poll is after an early vote is recorded Target Smart calls the voter & asks who they voted for. This is done all day, daily. So far 3,695,359 people have already cast their votes in Florida.

They are saying that Trump can't win if he does not win Florida.



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In a Last Word exclusive, TargetSmart CEO Tom Bonier shares with Lawrence the results of a new Florida Early and Likely Voter survey, which show Clinton winning a staggering 28% of Republican early voters.

As of the morning of November 1st, 2016, TargetSmart tracks that 3,695,359 people have already cast their votes in Florida. Leveraging TargetSmart?s proprietary voter file ? that is updated daily through the early voting window ? this poll reached a significant number of voters who have already participated. Among those early voters (who were asked which candidate they had voted for), Clinton outpaces Trump by a 17-point margin, 55 to 38 percent.

Reflective of the trends that have been published in other public polls in recent days, the TargetSmart/William & Mary poll shows the contest in Florida is very competitive among those who have yet to cast their ballot. Among those non-early voters (who were asked which candidate they will vote for), Clinton attracts 42 percent of the vote and 43 percent back Donald Trump.

The poll also shows the U.S. Senate race tilting decidedly in Marco Rubio?s direction as Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy trails Rubio 43 to 49 percent. Unlike Clinton, Murphy only breaks even with early voters, having garnered 48 percent of the vote among them to Rubio?s 47 percent. And, among non-early voters, Rubio holds a solid lead with 51 percent of the vote to Murphy?s 39 percent.


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How many registered democrats and registered independents voted for Trump? I can't help but to notice that info seems to be missing.
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How many registered democrats and registered independents voted for Trump? I can't help but to notice that info seems to be missing.
Clinton is +8 the rest really doesn't matter. Goto the link and dig in the weeds then report back
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I saw this as well, Trump may be getting Trumped by his own party
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Clinton is +8 the rest really doesn't matter. Goto the link and dig in the weeds then report back
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Trump vs. Clinton

I think you may be falling for propaganda. No other recent polls show her anywhere near +8
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RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Florida: Trump vs. Clinton

I think you may be falling for propaganda. No other recent polls show her anywhere near +8
Did you read the article or my statement on methodology?

This poll contacts voters in Florida after they vote early and asks them how they voted.

Here's a video link with Brian Williams MSNBC that explains it Florida survey: 28% of GOP early voters picking Clinton | MSNBC
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Did you read the article or my statement on methodology?
I did and I still don't know
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How many registered democrats and registered independents voted for Trump?
This. Where's the full dataset? I'd be interested in seeing it.
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I did and I still don't know

This. Where's the full dataset? I'd be interested in seeing it.
I gave you two links YOU research it. READ the article it explains everything.
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Also, where does your clinton is up by +8 number come from?

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Reflective of the trends that have been published in other public polls in recent days, the TargetSmart/William & Mary poll shows the contest in Florida is very competitive among those who have yet to cast their ballot. Among those non-early voters (who were asked which candidate they will vote for), Clinton attracts 42 percent of the vote and 43 percent back Donald Trump.
Your article seems to put Trump up by +1
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Also, where does your clinton is up by +8 number come from?



Your article seems to put Trump up by +1
READ the article & watch the MSNBC video . You're high

I know you're playing that "I don't see what I don't want to see" game
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Also, where does your clinton is up by +8 number come from?



Your article seems to put Trump up by +1
For those who have not voted yet. Stop playing dumb

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READ the article & watch the MSNBC video . You're high
No where in that article says clinton is up by eight, none of it answers my question about about democrat and independent data and this video is complete bullshit posted by a bullshit youtube account "Quik Newz"
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No where in that article says clinton is up by eight, none of it answers my question about about democrat and independent data and this video is complete bullshit posted by a bullshit youtube account "Quik Newz"

Ok dude, I'm not going to be mean about why you can't find it in the article.

Goto @ :34 in this video and you see 48/40 on a graphic in a couple seconds


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Did you read the article or my statement on methodology?

This poll contacts voters in Florida after they vote early and asks them how they voted.

Here's a video link with Brian Williams MSNBC that explains it Florida survey: 28% of GOP early voters picking Clinton | MSNBC
Last grasp of hope eh?
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Legitimate polls usually release a dataset about their polling. Info that looks like this:

Washington Post-ABC News Tracking Poll - October 22-25 - The Washington Post

Apparently Target Smart doesn't because it's "Proprietary" so we just have to take their word for it I guess.

That's what I was interested in seeing.
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What the article says is that a poll done by TargetSmart and William & Mary shows Clinton up 48 to 40.

However, when it gets to actual ballots cast it says their research shows early voting favors Clinton by 17 points 55 to 38.

A little further down it says when they poll only those who have not voted, but plan to vote, Trump holds a 1 point lead.

If these numbers are accurate and they maintain this trend Trump is done.
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Legitimate polls usually release a dataset about their polling. Info that looks like this:

Washington Post-ABC News Tracking Poll - October 22-25 - The Washington Post

Apparently Target Smart doesn't because it's "Proprietary" so we just have to take their word for it I guess.

That's what I was interested in seeing.
Data sets don't all look like that. Click the link to the article, scroll down to METHODOLOGY and it's all there 4 paragraphs.

I expected denial but this is a bit much
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Poll/survey does not equal votes. People lie all the time.
If I was called I would not tell these fucktards who I voted for, same goes for exit polls. Its none of their business!
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NBC Deal with Democratic Data Firm Is not Partisan, Says NBC | Campaign Trail - AdAge


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Some call it blatant partisanship, but NBC's Director of Elections John Lapinski sees the broadcaster's relationship with Democratic voter data firm TargetSmart as anything but. Yesterday the two companies announced a partnership allowing NBC and its team of academic data lab researchers access to the same publicly-available information TargetSmart provides to political campaigns and organizations on the left.
The information, which includes data on all 190 million Democratic, Republican and independent registered U.S. voters, will be ingested by NBC researchers analyzed, and used as the basis of reports throughout the 2016 election season.
"We all use publicly available data aggregated with consumer data that anyone could purchase to make decisions about campaign strategy. There is no bias in the data, only in how people spin it," said TargetSmart CEO Tom Bonier. "The only thing that has stopped media outlets from doing this themselves is the herculean task of collecting and maintaining these datasets."
Conservative site Breitbart questioned the ethics of the relationship, suggesting NBC's deal with TargetSmart "further weaponizes" the broadcaster on behalf of Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton. A Mediaite opinion piece chalked up the deal to NBC's "liberal bias."
"I know it's going to be taken a certain way by partisan media, but our intent all along is, let's get on an even playing field," said Mr. Lapinski, also an associate professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania. "We're going to have the data that campaigns have and we're going do our own analyses?. I think of it as the ultimate independence." He stressed the people on his research team have no history of working with political parties.
TargetSmart and data services firm Experian in August announced a partnership with the Democratic National Committee to turn the Party's voter file into data that can be used readily to aim digital video ads, addressable TV spots and mobile and desktop display ads at specific voters. The basic voter information TargetSmart has, like that of similar firms on both sides of the aisle, is publicly available and comes from secretaries of state offices across the country. The data firms compile and update the information regularly, layering in enhanced demographic or psychographic data and scores that rate the likelihood for voters to support specific candidates or hold certain stances on issues.
"We're also interested in just a lot of stuff that's non-partisan," such as the casting of provisional ballots, added Mr. Lapinski. The data deal, which makes NBC the exclusive media partner of TargetSmart, could help NBC shed light on inaccurate statements about voters made by agenda-driven campaigns, he said.
Mr. Lapinski's team of around eight PhDs and data scientists currently are determining the best way to store and manage the data that TargetSmart will provide. The company's clients typically access its data through technology platforms geared towards political-campaign purposes, such as generating call lists for volunteers or helping to target emails to likely donors.
NBC's goals, however, are far different. The media outlet might analyze the data to learn and report things about people who have voted in the past during GOP primaries, for example. He said viewers can expect NBC to begin reporting data based on its political data lab analysis in about a month.
"We can kind of call bunk on political campaigns that provide us with information when they're doing the analyses." NBC approached TargetSmart about a potential relationship, said Mr. Lapinski, who said he would be open to NBC having a similar relationship with a Republican data firm.
The new partners would not specify the details of the deal besides to say that when NBC analysts cite stats based on their analysis of TargetSmart data, they'll mention TargetSmart.
Yeah... fuck your poll.
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Poll/survey does not equal votes. People lie all the time.
If I was called I would not tell these fucktards who I voted for, same goes for exit polls. Its none of their business!
This poll asks people AFTER they vote and are more valid than any other poll.
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Wow you tried hard to grasp on any opposite opinion you could find, but AdAge as a valid source? Hahaha

Your denial runs deep
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Wow you tried hard to grasp on any opposite opinion you could find, but AdAge as a valid source? Hahaha
It's all over the internet that TargetSmart is a democrat outfit that was hired by NBC and, by extension, MSNBC.

The data isn't trustworthy to say the least.
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This poll asks people AFTER they vote and are more valid than any other poll.
It doesn't change anything. I could vote and 1 min later tell these fucktards the complete opposite and never bat an eye.
Again surveys do not equal votes.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/3296...-Likely-Voters

PDF of the "DATASET" published
see page 9 for Democrats
https://www.scribd.com/document/3296...-Likely-Voters EV = (*early voting Trump)

Florida probably has a high percentage of early voting ballots for reason of a higher age than average voting population.


The "Google Trends Poll" of Internet interest for Pennsylvania is even better

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my accountant was telling me that there are so many closet trump voters and they would never admit it in public or in polling. ESPECIALLY he said, "Women Entrepreneurs & Women Small Business Owners." Voting is very personal to some. That's why you get what I call "Pillow Talk"
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It doesn't change anything. I could vote and 1 min later tell these fucktards the complete opposite and never bat an eye.
Again surveys do not equal votes.
exactly, exit polls are never accurate
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https://www.scribd.com/document/3296...-Likely-Voters

PDF of the "DATASET" published
see page 9 for Democrats
https://www.scribd.com/document/3296...-Likely-Voters EV = (*early voting Trump)

Florida probably has a high percentage of early voting ballots for reason of a higher age than average voting population.
Thank you. I could not find this when I looked for it earlier. Cheers Mate.
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my accountant was telling me that there are so many closet trump voters and they would never admit it in public or in polling. ESPECIALLY he said, "Women Entrepreneurs & Women Small Business Owners." Voting is very personal to some. That's why you get what I call "Pillow Talk"
I can see that. i am amazed when people openly admit to liking him.
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exactly, exit polls are never accurate
Very True, Especially ones done by paid Democratic shills. This article on 538 cast even further doubt about these results.

Ten Reasons Why You Should Ignore Exit Polls | FiveThirtyEight

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Very True, Especially ones done by paid Democratic shills. This article on 538 cast even further doubt about these results.

Ten Reasons Why You Should Ignore Exit Polls | FiveThirtyEight
These aren't exit polls you know that.

This is calling people at home after the registrar shows they early voted.
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It doesn't change anything. I could vote and 1 min later tell these fucktards the complete opposite and never bat an eye.
Again surveys do not equal votes.
Yet you cling to, and post, polls where people haven't voted saying yours are valid. Pure hypocrisy have some integrity or shut up about polls.
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These aren't exit polls you know that.

This is calling people at home after the registrar shows they early voted.
You do realise why I now have extremely severe doubts about any of these results right?

https://www.google.com/search?q=targetsmart+democrat

They literally work for the DNC and MSNBC
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You do realise why I now have extremely severe doubts about any of these results right?

https://www.google.com/search?q=targetsmart+democrat

They literally work for the DNC and MSNBC
Why is reality the alt-right you belong to always a conspiracy if it doesn't fit your Trump is king storyline? Unfortunate
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Why is reality the alt-right you belong to always a conspiracy if it doesn't fit your Trump is king storyline? Unfortunate
1. I'm not alt-right in any way, shape or form.

2. I don't know what else to call a democratic data firm that literally works for the democrat party and a democratic news agency anything other than paid shills.

3. Your poll is very likely bought and paid for propaganda.

4. I probably wont be voting for anyone.

5. LOL @ u

6. Have fun beating off to your propaganda I guess.
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1. I'm not alt-right in any way, shape or form.

2. I don't know what else to call a democratic data firm that literally works for the democrat party and a democratic news agency anything other than paid shills.

3. Your poll is very likely bought and paid for propaganda.

4. I probably wont be voting for anyone.

5. LOL @ u

6. Have fun beating off to your propaganda I guess.
1) you disagree with polls that don't show Trump leading

2) you post anti Clinton propaganda with no counter Trump links to be balanced

3) you cream in every thread that posts fringe alt-right stories.

You are the epitomy of an alt-right fanboy congrats
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:51 PM   #39
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1) you disagree with polls that don't show Trump leading

2) you post anti Clinton propaganda with no counter Trump links to be balanced

3) you cream in every thread that posts fringe alt-right stories.

You are the epitomy of an alt-right fanboy congrats
You're just upset that I pointed out obvious DNC propaganda. I'd be mad to if I looked as foolish as you do right now. Everything you just posted couldn't be further from the truth BTW. If anything you're just describing yourself there.
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Old 11-02-2016, 07:00 PM   #40
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Lol conspiracy is the go to word now when people can't stick to facts
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Old 11-02-2016, 08:05 PM   #41
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my accountant was telling me that there are so many closet trump voters and they would never admit it in public or in polling. ESPECIALLY he said, "Women Entrepreneurs & Women Small Business Owners." Voting is very personal to some. That's why you get what I call "Pillow Talk"
I think same goes for some Trump areas with "republican by birth" clientele. People can't betray their "family values" but will behind that curtain.
Besides, how many "Women Entrepreneurs & Women Small Business Owners." out there to make any significant impact on election?
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:02 PM   #42
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I think same goes for some Trump areas with "republican by birth" clientele. People can't betray their "family values" but will behind that curtain.
Besides, how many "Women Entrepreneurs & Women Small Business Owners." out there to make any significant impact on election?
I heard the latest poll had 28% of Republican voters crossing over to vote for Hillary. So you're definitely right. Republicans are flocking in droves to Hillary.
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Old 11-02-2016, 09:06 PM   #43
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I heard the latest poll had 28% of Republican voters crossing over to vote for Hillary. So you're definitely right. Republicans are flocking in droves to Hillary.
Game 7 is da bomb. Who gives.
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Game 7 is da bomb. Who gives.


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Old 11-02-2016, 10:00 PM   #45
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Clinton is +8 the rest really doesn't matter. Goto the link and dig in the weeds then report back
How the hell is Clinton leading?

I bet this is a total fraud...
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Old 11-02-2016, 10:06 PM   #46
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How the hell is Clinton leading?

I bet this is a total fraud...
You can deny reality all you want but 28 percent of RePUKEliKKKans have voted for Hillary. Now she is 8 points ahead.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:46 AM   #47
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This poll asks people AFTER they vote and are more valid than any other poll.
What im going to say is over your head, so brace yourself: did you know that most people who come out of voting booths, DECLINE TO GET POLLED...

Ergo the data is meaningless. How can voting poll be accurate when most people are not polled? Maybe trump voters are not answering beause they have to get to their job.

The only poll that matters is 5 days out. You dipstick.

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