Clips4sale bigger than Porn Valley? - GoFuckYourself.com

mikesouth · 10-12-2016, 03:01 PM

I wrote about this today on MikeSouth.Com what do y'all think I think he may be right.

I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday He pointed out that Porn Valley is dead and that the few zombies left wandering around there just haven?t figured it out yet. I kind of scoffed but then he challenged me?He said I will bet you that clips4sale.com sells more videos per day than everyone in Porn Valley combined.

Let that settle in a moment he is very possibly right and that speaks volumes about how traditional porn producers totally killed a hot product...theres a marketing lesson here

Fat Panda · 10-12-2016, 03:05 PM

clips4sale kicks ass

CaptainHowdy · 10-12-2016, 03:08 PM

mineistaken · 10-12-2016, 03:10 PM

Would be better to compare revenue, not the amount of videos due to different models (clips4sale sell small vids one by one etc).

mikesouth · 10-12-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Would be better to compare revenue, not the amount of videos due to different models (clips4sale sell small vids one by one etc).

actually I think that is kind of the point because of the distribution model in the old days and so many layers of middlemen clips4sale makes more off of a single video sale (on average) than porn producers make off of an entire DVD. I think the revenues in Porn Valley are lower than clips4sale when you look at them evenly and truth is Porn Valley revenues have been in a free fall for recent years.....I don't see DVD/BluRay as a viable model anymore

redwhiteandblue · 10-12-2016, 03:21 PM

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1849...-porn-at-home/

Zuzana Designs · 10-12-2016, 03:24 PM

https://www.manyvids.com is another site that is selling clips that's doing very well.
C4S really should think about a re-design. I know they do very well with the old design but I have referred several HOT cam models to C4S and the first thing they say is the site looks outdated and some have not posted clips because of this.

mikesouth · 10-12-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

https://www.manyvids.com is another site that is selling clips that's doing very well.
C4S really should think about a re-design. I know they do very well with the old design but I have referred several HOT cam models to C4S and the first thing they say is the site looks outdated and some have not posted clips because of this.

I am aware of manyvids but they really don't have the reach that c4s does I am sure they are making money but as a store owner on both I can tell you that I make 100 bucks on c4s to every dollar on mv. MV needs to do what c4s did and spend some money on quality advertising.

agreed that c4s needs an update not to mention some policy changes but hey truth is it IS the gold standard in its genre

NatalieK · 10-12-2016, 04:49 PM

just had another wire from C4S in the bank yesterday. Always a pleasure to see some fantastic sales on C4S

ianmoone332000 · 10-13-2016, 03:16 AM

I put up a post the other day asking if anyone has built a script / theme that works similar to clips4sale. No replies. People have been really slow on this type of site. If someone built a good script, i imagine it would make a lot of money

HTMwrestling · 10-13-2016, 06:15 AM

There are plenty of more modernized clones. None of them have the traffic that C4S does. The newest ones are also largely geared towards camgirls and solo models as opposed to small studios.

A game changer might be if a modern clone teamed up with Epoch to accept Paypal without the girl/studio needing their own PP account to sell through.

charlie g · 10-13-2016, 07:13 AM

glad you are getting paid natalie, my wires have been getting later and later and now just informed must take payoneer as the only payment form available to me. I do not know when I am getting paid until payoneer approves me. What kind of company can not send an international wire??? I have never heard of such a thing in my 25 years of doing business overseas.

that said, c4s is great for sales, but the script is cumbersome and really a piece of shit...trying to promote a single video from your store is next to impossible. I imagine if they would spend a little really updating the site instead of piecemeal modernizing an antique script sales would probably be even better.

charlie g · 10-13-2016, 07:15 AM

so nice, I said it twice.

ianmoone332000 · 10-13-2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HTMwrestling

There are plenty of more modernized clones. None of them have the traffic that C4S does. The newest ones are also largely geared towards camgirls and solo models as opposed to small studios.

A game changer might be if a modern clone teamed up with Epoch to accept Paypal without the girl/studio needing their own PP account to sell through.

Im still baffled that no one has made a wordpress theme or script to sell to people though. Coders missed the boat on it. I think a lot of people would buy one if it was done well and had good support. I cant find a single one for sale

mikesouth · 10-13-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000

Im still baffled that no one has made a wordpress theme or script to sell to people though. Coders missed the boat on it. I think a lot of people would buy one if it was done well and had good support. I cant find a single one for sale

woocommerce does that i think

GUNNER · 10-13-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

I am aware of manyvids but they really don't have the reach that c4s does I am sure they are making money but as a store owner on both I can tell you that I make 100 bucks on c4s to every dollar on mv. MV needs to do what c4s did and spend some money on quality advertising.

agreed that c4s needs an update not to mention some policy changes but hey truth is it IS the gold standard in its genre

They were spending money at shows and killing it a decade ago. C4S has dominated that long.

#TBT AVN 2010

Jo working the C4S booth

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Colmike9 · 10-13-2016, 10:19 AM

Someone should make a clips site like that, but then save the bought videos to the cloud.
Then use that and allow the paying members to set up their own tube with their bought videos to enjoy any time. (Easily, like 1-2 click setup)

They're also missing out on a ton of revenue by not having a dating tab on top..

fuzebox · 10-13-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

glad you are getting paid natalie, my wires have been getting later and later and now just informed must take payoneer as the only payment form available to me. I do not know when I am getting paid until payoneer approves me. What kind of company can not send an international wire??? I have never heard of such a thing in my 25 years of doing business overseas.

Payoneer is becoming the standard for sending payments now. You don't need a traditional payoneer account with a debit card, you set up your payoneer to forward payments directly to your local bank using direct deposit.

My two biggest affiliate programs only payout this way rather than wires.

NatalieK · 10-13-2016, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g

What kind of company can not send an international wire?

sorry to hear you've had problems. You need to send another email to Gia, as I think, since this month, they've sorted their payments for wire out now.

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Payoneer is becoming the standard for sending payments now.

it is, and personally I prefer it, it's cheaper & straight forward, you can see the payment immediately on your payoneer account & then just wait for it to clear the next day for me usually, only because of the US & EU time difference on banking hours

Paul Markham · 10-14-2016, 02:50 AM

After not working it for years, still getting sales. Just not enough to bother with their out of date site.

Petra · 10-14-2016, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Someone should make a clips site like that, but then save the bought videos to the cloud.
Then use that and allow the paying members to set up their own tube with their bought videos to enjoy any time. (Easily, like 1-2 click setup)

They're also missing out on a ton of revenue by not having a dating tab on top..

You mean like we do on Customs4U? ;-)

And, at least for C4U, we don't have dating traffic. They're interested in weird ass fetishes, not dating their findom.

NatalieK · 10-14-2016, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra

You mean like we do on Customs4U? ;-)

And, at least for C4U, we don't have dating traffic. They're interested in weird ass fetishes, not dating their findom.

going to have to add some videos to your site, I've had a profile for a year or 2 Petra.

Customs4U Performer Natalie K

Let's see how it goes

Yanks_Todd · 10-14-2016, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

https://www.manyvids.com is another site that is selling clips that's doing very well.
C4S really should think about a re-design. I know they do very well with the old design but I have referred several HOT cam models to C4S and the first thing they say is the site looks outdated and some have not posted clips because of this.

Their UX and search needs work. If you got in early there you can make money, if not you are buried no matter how good or perfect your content might be for the searcher.

Colmike9 · 10-14-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra

You mean like we do on Customs4U? ;-)

And, at least for C4U, we don't have dating traffic. They're interested in weird ass fetishes, not dating their findom.

Nice to know you offer that.

And we could make some weird fetish dating white labels lol..

(I was just plugging dating because of obvious reasons, though..)

10-12-2016, 03:01 PM	#1
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	Clips4sale bigger than Porn Valley? I wrote about this today on MikeSouth.Com what do y'all think I think he may be right. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday He pointed out that Porn Valley is dead and that the few zombies left wandering around there just haven?t figured it out yet. I kind of scoffed but then he challenged me?He said I will bet you that clips4sale.com sells more videos per day than everyone in Porn Valley combined. Let that settle in a moment he is very possibly right and that speaks volumes about how traditional porn producers totally killed a hot product...theres a marketing lesson here __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,787	https://www.manyvids.com is another site that is selling clips that's doing very well. C4S really should think about a re-design. I know they do very well with the old design but I have referred several HOT cam models to C4S and the first thing they say is the site looks outdated and some have not posted clips because of this. __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work Need a SFW landing page or tour for age verification?

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HTMwrestling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 178	There are plenty of more modernized clones. None of them have the traffic that C4S does. The newest ones are also largely geared towards camgirls and solo models as opposed to small studios. A game changer might be if a modern clone teamed up with Epoch to accept Paypal without the girl/studio needing their own PP account to sell through. __________________ http://htmwrestling.com Maledom boxing, foxy boxing, wrestling women..Sports entertainment pseudo-porn

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charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,758	glad you are getting paid natalie, my wires have been getting later and later and now just informed must take payoneer as the only payment form available to me. I do not know when I am getting paid until payoneer approves me. What kind of company can not send an international wire??? I have never heard of such a thing in my 25 years of doing business overseas. that said, c4s is great for sales, but the script is cumbersome and really a piece of shit...trying to promote a single video from your store is next to impossible. I imagine if they would spend a little really updating the site instead of piecemeal modernizing an antique script sales would probably be even better. __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------

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charlie g Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Center of the Universe Posts: 2,758	so nice, I said it twice. __________________ AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com -------------------------------

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Colmike9 (>^_^)b Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,224	Someone should make a clips site like that, but then save the bought videos to the cloud. Then use that and allow the paying members to set up their own tube with their bought videos to enjoy any time. (Easily, like 1-2 click setup) They're also missing out on a ton of revenue by not having a dating tab on top.. __________________ Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet! I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in. I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years..

10-14-2016, 02:50 AM	#20
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