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Old 10-18-2016, 05:21 AM   #51
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Doesn't appear so considering it's Clinton running for president, I'm very curious how this plays out.



That's again the way somebody wants to paint him, and they use every single thing the "politically correct" narrative enables them to use for this determined witch hunt.

Now let's ask a simple question

Given the massive amount of evidence pointing to corruption, deception, incompetence, endangering national security, proven track record of disastrous foreign policy etc. etc.

Wouldn't it be a very easy job to expose Clinton as a candidate that simply can't ever be trusted as a presidential candidate, let alone as a president?

Based on actual facts and documented positions (these are actual facts and positions based on existing evidence, not on speculations or wild allegations).

So there you have it, a candidate admitting holding "a private and a public position", dreaming of open borders in front of the bankers, calling actual Americans "deplorables" in a Freudian slip etc.

It would be an extremely easy job to expose Clinton as somebody who is corrupt and completely untrustworthy. It would be the easiest job ever for the mass media, there's way too much evidence available for that. If they cared about actual journalism. Which they don't.

What's even more absurd we have now news outlets that are officially "endorsing" a candidate, so it's even official! If there was any single piece of journalist code left, MSM would be supposed to report about the election, not to influence the election.
Firstly "News" outlets have always endorsed a candidate / party / ideology.

In the UK the Murdoch press (Sun, Times, News of the World) dictated the election results for 30 years. The first thing Tony Blair did when he became leader of a dysfunctional Labour party was to court Rupert Murdoch. He new that Murdoch made Prime Ministers and without the Murdoch press he would never win a general election.

Secondly it is interesting that you call Hillary's transgressions facts, yet Mr Trumps merely speculations or wild allegations. I think you need a reality check Sir. The Trump transgressions come entirely from his own mouth.

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Old 10-18-2016, 05:22 AM   #52
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Trump is gonna win Florida
200 out of 9000 walked out. Yep, Trump is winning in Florida
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:42 AM   #53
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I get a real kick out of reading these threads. "The intelligent" can not understand how anyone can favor trump. I would love to hear "the intelligent" give me reasons to vote for Clinton. I think she has had a chance to lead, in the senate, in the cabinet and her only success is raising money. Her failures are numerous. Her judgement is highly suspect. Her motives should be questioned. How can you attack trump so viciously and give Clinton a pass on all her fuck-ups.
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Old 10-18-2016, 05:56 AM   #54
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Firstly "News" outlets have always endorsed a candidate / party / ideology.

In the UK the Murdoch press (Sun, Times, News of the World) dictated the election results for 30 years. The first thing Tony Blair did when he became leader of a dysfunctional Labour party was to court Rupert Murdoch. He new that Murdoch made Prime Ministers and without the Murdoch press he would never win a general election.
Yep - that's what I'm talking about, "journalism" is basically dead.

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Secondly it is interesting that you call Hillary's transgressions facts, yet Mr Trumps merely speculations or wild allegations. I think you need a reality check Sir. The Trump transgressions come entirely from his own mouth.

You call it yourself - one is a case of well documented corruption - misuse of her life long position in government in order to benefit herself and her cronies, acting against the public interest including endangering the national security.

The second is pretty much mostly what someone says, be it DJT himself or whoever else. Mostly a gossip material that would otherwise never hit the first page if it wasn't in someone's interest to do so.

Says / not does or did - note the difference.
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Old 10-18-2016, 06:55 AM   #55
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Yep - that's what I'm talking about, "journalism" is basically dead.



You call it yourself - one is a case of well documented corruption - misuse of her life long position in government in order to benefit herself and her cronies, acting against the public interest including endangering the national security.

The second is pretty much mostly what someone says, be it DJT himself or whoever else. Mostly a gossip material that would otherwise never hit the first page if it wasn't in someone's interest to do so.

Says / not does or did - note the difference.
Ok vote for the guy that calls Mexicans rapists, never pays tax because he is smart, rapes his wife, a guy who thinks Mr Putin should be admired, and of course "grabs em by the pussy".
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:12 AM   #56
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I get a real kick out of reading these threads. "The intelligent" can not understand how anyone can favor trump. I would love to hear "the intelligent" give me reasons to vote for Clinton. I think she has had a chance to lead, in the senate, in the cabinet and her only success is raising money. Her failures are numerous. Her judgement is highly suspect. Her motives should be questioned. How can you attack trump so viciously and give Clinton a pass on all her fuck-ups.
Some people have weak minds. They see mainstream media as an authority, and their brain soaks up everything without questioning anything. When they say this man is bad, the man is bad. When they say this woman is good, the woman is good. When they say that country is bad, the country is bad.

Due to this complete lack of healthy skepticism and their scary naivety into believing anything complete biased sources are saying, these sources have a monopoly on the minds of these poor saps and can make them believe anything: Brainwashing.
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Same pattern as Yanukovitch was doing in Ukraine.
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:13 AM   #58
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Ok vote for the guy that calls Mexicans rapists, never pays tax because he is smart, rapes his wife, a guy who thinks Mr Putin should be admired, and of course "grabs em by the pussy".
I couldn't have asked for a more perfect live example of my previous post than this. Thanks
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:23 AM   #59
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I couldn't have asked for a more perfect live example of my previous post than this. Thanks
I get it - the media made it all up.
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:33 AM   #60
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I get it - the media made it all up.
You don't get it.
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:49 AM   #61
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Millionaire celebs like Trump ?

The guy says you should vote for him because he is rich for fucks sake.

That is it. That's his whole agenda.

He has a lot more than that. Read his policies about stopping globalization.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:13 AM   #62
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Trump has made Hillary look like the sane option, and I really disliked her, still do - but if Trump cannot even successfully run a company, a government run by him would be nothing short of a disaster. It makes the status quo look pretty fucken' appealing if that's what's ahead.
Again I believe this is the only reason Trump is running for President. If the Republicans threw up someone sane and electable as a candidate would anyone vote for Hillary? But put up a whackadoodle like Trump and suddenly Hillary looks like the best choice.

Simple really.
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Old 10-18-2016, 09:01 AM   #63
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He has a lot more than that. Read his policies about stopping globalization.
Stopping globalisation ???

Its a shame you dont understand the world Paul.

No one is going to role back automation. Let me let you into a secret - machines and computers now do the work - the working man is very last millennia.

The industrial output of the USA has quadrupled since the 60s, but it employs a third of the people.

You really are the most frightful hypocrite. Tell me where you live again ? And why ?

The global movement of goods and services means that the market dictates where goods are produced.

So you get to live where the girls are cheap and plentiful, and your earnings go a long way. It also means that even the poorest citizens of the USA have cheap food, cars, consumer goods etc.

FFS stopping globalisation. That really is the most backward and idiotic idea. Trump is the arch capitalist - the idea of him restricting US companies from making profits really is quite laughable. So US companies are going to see their costs rocket, investors in US companies are going to see their portfolios destroyed, US consumers are going to pay more for food, consumer goods, clothes, cars, actually just about everything.

Tell me Paul do you think Mr Trump will be a popular president when he sets about "stopping globalisation" ?

Dont you see the parallels Paul ? Populist leader with a bag of bogeymen to blame. The Chinese take the jobs, the Mexicans do the raping, the media rig the election, the Washington elite are corrupt etc. He pulls the levers and you leap up and down in a frenzy of righteous indignation from your cosy home in Eastern Europe. Its fucking pathetic.
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Again I believe this is the only reason Trump is running for President. If the Republicans threw up someone sane and electable as a candidate would anyone vote for Hillary? But put up a whackadoodle like Trump and suddenly Hillary looks like the best choice.

Simple really.
I think that even if the Republicans had ran someone different they would've ended up with virtually the same result. There still would've been a largely one-sided attack against their candidate from the largest of media outlets. When so many Americans form their opinions based on what they see on television and radio and those media outlets are completely infested with partisan wonks, it would be hard to imagine the end result would be any different.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:03 AM   #65
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I knew he'd win Florida.. the presidency comes as a surprise though.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:23 AM   #66
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And those that oversimplify in their thinking that Trump is the problem and not merely a symptom ARE part of the problem. Whether they are willing to admit it to themselves or not. Trump voters should be an ally against someone like Trump but instead, attributable completely to the actions of the left, have converted them into virulent enemies due to their constant attacks on middle american culture.
If Democrats ever want to be in power again, I would suggest you understand this post. It was your virulent and hateful attacks that lost this for yourselves.
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