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JFK · 11-01-2016, 11:49 AM

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JesseQuinn · 11-01-2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

No. Not really. My only point is that people a fucking completely fed up with experienced politician bullshit. That is why half of this country has flocked to him. That was my point.

I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.

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Originally Posted by Coup

Personally I think Trump won't make for a very good president either. But I, like most Americans, am sick of the lies and bullshit. If that means electing Trump will be a step away from that shit, it's a step in the right direction.

I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place

Joshua G · 11-01-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

These candidates are both historically terrible...he has run a terrible campaign. With everything that has happened he is still not winning lol

ANYONE else from the primary would have this in the bag

he has run a terrible campaign? which candidate sat in bed for 20 days in october, letting the media & surrogates do all the campaigning?

oh PS in case you didnt know. its an angry electorate, not a happy one. mad ones dont vote for the flowers & lollipops candidate.

but you will stay blind & dumb until november 9.

CourtneyR · 11-01-2016, 01:45 PM

Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.

JesseQuinn · 11-01-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.

^^^preach

As a Canadian always back NDP over Green because the CA Greens are enviro-focused at the expense of people. can't wrap my head around that platform, my 'environment' includes fellow human beings, the welfare of whom also concerns me.

in contrast, US/Stein's Green is far more progressive on the human socio-econ tip. I would so cast an enthusiastic vote for her, if she had a chance in hell of winning

I wouldn't make the same choice as you, in this election, knowing that she won't win. So fucking respect you for your choice though

Coup · 11-01-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.

I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place

Ultimately, it is my hope to see the Democrat party unfuck itself within my lifetime. I'd like to see it be cleansed of the donna brazile's, the huma abedin's, tim kaines and hillary clintons along with all of their tired old sold out and corrupt ways. The only way I see that happening is if they suffer a devastating loss to someone as shitty as Trump. Allowing Hillary to take the win guarantees they won't even do at least a little bit of soul-searching.
I'd like to see it move in more of a Bernie Sanders, jill stein sort of direction... not just pay lip service to it.

If Trump wins I don't think he will fix much, But the Democrats may fix themselves.

NatalieK · 11-01-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

Not voting for Hillary over here. My views fall more in line with the Green party.This will be the second time in a row Jill Stein gets my vote.

the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

If you want Trump as a role model for your country, continue to vote for who you decide. If not, realize Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people

Coup · 11-01-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

CourtneyR · 11-01-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

If you want Trump as a role model for your country, continue to vote for who you decide. If not, realize Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people

I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.

CourtneyR · 11-01-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

Thank you... kind of. :P

JesseQuinn · 11-01-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

the problem is, the green party aren't going to win. So your vote will be wasted.

in the current state of affairs, agreed. see equal merit in Courtney's strategy as well though.

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Hillary does care for the people, elderly & youth. Paying her contributions & not demeaning women or people

the fuck? no, she does not. she is very good at pretending to be socially progressive when need be publicly, her entire CV of public conduct runs contrary. HRC and Trump are very alike in that regard, spewing hypocrisy where needed, diametrically opposed to their public and private actions.

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Originally Posted by Coup

A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

I do as well. would caution against choosing against people in furtherance of a cause meant to support them though.

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.

whatever happens, good luck y'all

Bladewire · 11-01-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

Ultimately, it is my hope to see the Democrat party unfuck itself within my lifetime. I'd like to see it be cleansed of the donna brazile's, the huma abedin's, tim kaines and hillary clintons along with all of their tired old sold out and corrupt ways. The only way I see that happening is if they suffer a devastating loss to someone as shitty as Trump. Allowing Hillary to take the win guarantees they won't even do at least a little bit of soul-searching.
I'd like to see it move in more of a Bernie Sanders, jill stein sort of direction... not just pay lip service to it.

If Trump wins I don't think he will fix much, But the Democrats may fix themselves.

Sanders is way to far left though don't you think?

ianmoone332000 · 11-01-2016, 04:02 PM

You guys have got 2 bad candidates this time though i would vote for Trump. Rather have a clown than the devil

Coup · 11-01-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Sanders is way to far left though don't you think?

Not at all. Too far left is like "black-bloc" anarchism or Maoism-third worldism imo

NatalieK · 11-01-2016, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN

I know she will not win, but it is my vote. I am choosing to vote for who my views align with. This is the first year where the green party will be on enough ballots to mathematically win, that is a big step in the right direction.

I disagree, I think she will be the new president, or at least hope.

However, agreeing with your thoughts regarding the green party and the ability to have a possible win, follow your heart, well played to you

NatalieK · 11-01-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

in the current state of affairs, agreed. see equal merit in Courtney's strategy as well though.

absolutely true, hence my comment above agreeing with Courtney. I say, good luck to the green party & all who vote for them. Pleased you understood my point though. Thank you.

Bladewire · 11-01-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000

You guys have got 2 bad candidates this time though i would vote for Trump. Rather have a clown than the devil

Yeah but you don't live here. You can sin living with the devil, clowns are just downright fucking scary!

Paul Markham · 11-01-2016, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by altmman

Or we'd rather give the keys to someone who knows what she's doing vs a guy who has no idea what he's doing and doesnt know how to drive this thing.

She knows what she's doing. Fucking Americans, she's been part of the system that's been dedicated to it for decades.

And she will make sure nothing changes.

badgirlfilms · 11-02-2016, 02:10 AM

hillary will kill your dumb ass

Jel · 11-02-2016, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

I get where you're coming from, and agree that Trump is a result (or less neutrally, a symptom) of larger legitimate issues, one of which is disdain and revulsion for the status quo where the same uber-privileged benefit regardless of whether the whitehouse goes blue or red.

I kinda agree with you. If so much wasn't at stake it would be kinda fun to see Washington in a panic if Trump was elected. All of their precious little power networks messed with? would be hella fucking entertaining.

Thing is though, Trump doesn't offer anything to remedy the issues that cause people to flock to him; he's the demolition candidate. Destruction can be necessary evil in furtherance of better, more constructive aims to follow, or it can be nihilism.

With Trump it is the latter. A Trump win won't resolve gerrymandering, it won't change the electoral college system. It won't bring back the middle class or decent-income working class jobs (another central foci amongst his base). He has no viable plan for any of this and his off the cuff opining in place of concrete, well-thought out plans would serve only to further stratify and fracture american society along class, citizenship and social race lines.

It also won't take the insanely high volumes of cash out of the nomination process, arguably one of the fundamental causes of all this.

For those who see appeal, not knocking you. I do see where you're coming from. To a point. either way I get an easy out as I don't have to vote.

I just honestly don't see the logic in electing a belligerent buffoon who, if he wins, will do so because of the money/media hype in the form of advertising dollaz for 24 hour news channels he brought to the table. aka the shit that helped get y'all here in the first place

Love your posts every time I see them

90% agree with most of the above, and like you have just said, see where you're coming from even if I think there *is* logic in electing trump. You should post more, just to make visiting here a bit easier for me

Jel · 11-02-2016, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup

A vote that was cast is never one that was wasted. IMO. I admire people that stick by their convictions... even in the face of hysteria.

+1

I'd sooner vote for someone I believed in than this horseshit about wasted votes... even if my 'wasted' vote this time round means momentum gathers for that party to have a real chance 50 years from now. Could never, ever, vote for the 'lesser of two evils' - to me that's like being asked by a copper who has arrested/tried/convicted me of a crime I didn't commit, whether I want a punch in the mouth or a kick in the bollocks. No way am I taking part in that

Haven't voted in a general election since I was 20, and highly doubt that will change before I die. I have HUGE respect for those that vote with their conviction.

nico-t · 11-02-2016, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S

Women's Right To choose
Marriage Equality
Supreme Court
Experience
Temperment
etc
etc
etc

Wow, a 1 on 1 copy from their propaganda, what a coincidence

Seriously, temperament? Never heard about that in an election until the Clinton camp decided to use that term... and you have that in your head now. Great example of the power of brainwashing to the weak minded

nico-t · 11-02-2016, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You haven't voted yet? Why wait?

who did you vote for?

suesheboy · 11-02-2016, 03:18 AM

Every policy she has is what I believe in.

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