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Old 11-08-2016, 11:33 PM   #1
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Next: President Obama Will Pardon Hillary

I've said it since the campaign began: If Hillary lost, Obama will pardon her.

Now WHY he would pardon her if she hasn't done anything wrong...lol

But I predict that Hillary will be receiving a full Presidential pardon.
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tough call. i thought so too. but obama has this thing about his legacy. he might throw hilary under the bus, rather than pardon her, & take that stain on his legacy.

he might not do it.

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How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?
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Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.
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He can't pardon her for everything.
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Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.
It won't be Rudy he's already picked Trey Gowdy who wants to eat Hillary for lunch.
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It won't be Rudy he's already picked Trey Gowdy who wants to eat Hillary for lunch.
christ, she's in fucking trouble. that guy is smart as a whip and has no use for her.
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he's already picked Trey Gowdy
Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.
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Clinton will receive a full pardon for sure, knows too much on Obama and the whole circus to make their lives real tough if he wouldn't do it.
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I think you are forgetting that she has not been charged, tried and convicted of anything. Due process Robbie. Wow
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Why not? It will strip the Republican party of their whipping boy (girl) and with no diversions they can take full responsibility for the deeds to come.

Let's play hand grenades.

The smart money is short or on the sidelines while the chump money is long term or leveraged in debt. Guess who loses?
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I've said it since the campaign began: If Hillary lost, Obama will pardon her.

Now WHY he would pardon her if she hasn't done anything wrong...lol

But I predict that Hillary will be receiving a full Presidential pardon.
not much of a prediction. Do you forget what happened with Nixon? His crimes were pretty similar if not worse.
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Doesn't she have to be convicted before she can be pardoned.
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tough call. i thought so too. but obama has this thing about his legacy. he might throw hilary under the bus, rather than pardon her, & take that stain on his legacy.

he might not do it.

I think history will not be so kind to Obama.
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Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.
How if she's done nothing wrong. The investigations continue and still nothing. It was a smoke screen for Trump to gain extra votes.

That's why he was like, Secretary Hillary just congratulated us, I her too


Besides, Trumps taxes may come to light some what more now & the other things, the visa with his wife, the snooping with the votes, he's still got to make jobs & build a wall while chucking illegals out and vetting people without creating racism through the country & world.
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I think you are forgetting that she has not been charged, tried and convicted of anything. Due process Robbie. Wow
Neither was Nixon

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Holy Shit... I hadn't heard this. She is fucked. Gowdy is a pitpull.
I would imagine there's a lot of people around her making exit plans right now.
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I bet you dollars to donuts nothing happens to her. Did you hear Trump last night , it was a different guy. He said what he needed to tell angry white people to get their vote and it worked.
I see a lessening of all the promises. He isnt stupid.
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I bet you dollars to donuts nothing happens to her. Did you hear Trump last night , it was a different guy. He said what he needed to tell angry white people to get their vote and it worked.
I see a lessening of all the promises. He isnt stupid.
Nope, she's going down. It may not be the emails most likely the foundation. Trey Gowdy will likely issue a warrant his first day in office. He's been seriously angry about being stonewalled during the hearings. It won't just be her either. Many around her are seriously considering leaving the country right now to avoid prosecution I guarantee you that.
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Let them enjoy it -- they (the Trumpsters) just got played big time
Seems you Democrats are the one's who got played. I can't flip the channel without seeing a talking head near tears.
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How can he pardon someone who hasn't been charged?
Robbie lives in fantasy land. He doesn't understand reality.. Hillary hasn't been convicted of a crime but she will receive a pardon. Makes no sense unless you listen to right wing radio..
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Pardon her for what? She's never been charged with a crime.
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About pardons: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

Funny how this was an issue 8 years ago as well!
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About pardons: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

Funny how this was an issue 8 years ago as well!
Obama can't blanket pardon her. ie, he can't say "I pardon Hillary of ALL things illegal" He can pardon her on a specific thing such as the emails. The choice has to be made as to what's the biggest issue to lessen the damage. Emails? Lying to congress? Foundation? Benghazi?
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Paul's right. I think that's why they have not brought charges against her yet. It's obvious she has broken many laws. Rudy will take over the direction of the investigation in January and that will be it for clinton.
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Obama can't blanket pardon her. ie, he can't say "I pardon Hillary of ALL things illegal" He can pardon her on a specific thing such as the emails. The choice has to be made as to what's the biggest issue to lessen the damage. Emails? Lying to congress? Foundation? Benghazi?

The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon.
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The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon.
Nixion was impeached for what he did.. it's not even close to the same.. At best Obama might be able to grant her immunity from prosecution but I dunno if he can actually do that. I'd imagine the DOJ would only be able to offer that..

Regardless, Trump isn't going to push for any of that.. It's not his say anyway, it's the DOJ's. You listen to too much right wing bat radio.
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The same way that President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

It's not the same as a President releasing people from prison and pardoning them.
In this case President Obama will simply do what Ford did...give Hillary a full presidential pardon for her "involvement".

READ what Sly posted: Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

And of course if any of you would simply use Google you could have found it out for yourselves that the President can indeed issue a sweeping pardon.
Once again he would have to sit down with Hillary and say "Give me a list of all things I need to pardon you for." That's a long list. But I will say that since his entire Presidential legacy will be reduced to nothing he has nothing to lose by doing that. You could tell he was choked up in his speech today knowing this.
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Nixion was impeached for what he did.. it's not even close to the same.. At best Obama might be able to grant her immunity from prosecution but I dunno if he can actually do that. I'd imagine the DOJ would only be able to offer that..

Regardless, Trump isn't going to push for any of that.. It's not his say anyway, it's the DOJ's. You listen to too much right wing bat radio.
Nixon was NEVER impeached. Jesus crockett...I know you don't have much knowledge of history...but at least use Google. Nixon resigned BEFORE Congress could impeach him. YES...the Congress definitely would have...but right now there are only TWO President's in history who have ever been impeached: Pres. Andrew Johnson AND...Bill Clinton.

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Once again he would have to sit down with Hillary and say "Give me a list of things I need to pardon you for." That's a long list. But I will say that since his entire Presidential legacy will be reduced to nothing he has nothing to lose by doing that.
Once again...READ and use Google. A President can give a sweeping preemptive pardon. Just like Ford did for Nixon.
Does anybody realize that you are on the internet and you can simply google this stuff up before posting?
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Nixon was NEVER impeached. Jesus crockett...I know you don't have much knowledge of history...but at least use Google. Nixon resigned BEFORE Congress could impeach him. YES...the Congress definitely would have...but right now there are only TWO President's in history who have ever been impeached: Pres. Andrew Johnson AND...Bill Clinton.


Once again...READ and use Google. A President can give a sweeping preemptive pardon. Just like Ford did for Nixon.
Does anybody realize that you are on the internet and you can simply google this stuff up before posting?
Give me a break Robbie.. that's like claiming you were never fired because you quit before they handed you the papers. 3 articles of impeachment were approved by the house but he "quit" before the Senate was able to vote on it.

Sure thing sweetheart, he just decided to quit out of the blue..
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Also crockett...I never said anything about Nixon not being "guilty".

I said Obama would pardon Hillary. You stupidly stated that Obama couldn't pardon Hillary because she isn't convicted of anything.

Now you're doing your usual song and dance of trying to run a thread off the rails.

I believe Obama will pardon Hillary. Or at the very least buddy up to Trump and talk him out of going after her.

If you think otherwise...then fine. But you are factually incorrect on your stupid statement about him not being able to do it.
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Again.. Nixon was found guilty of cover up by the Watergate hearing. 3 articles of impeachment were approved by the House.. Nixion quit before the Senate could vote..

He was found guilty but didn't have a chance to be charged before he was pardoned..

Hillary has been found guilty of not a fucking thing. Keep beating a dead horse.. Perhaps you can tell us again about Obama's stand down orders..

August 8, 1974 Nixion Resigned
September 8, 1974 he was Pardoned..
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Crockett...Obama will either pardon Hillary (100% within his power to do a preemptive pardon) or talk Trump out of going after her.

You are factually incorrect as usual. You are one of the big reasons I don't hang much here at GFY anymore.

So I'll take my leave and let you continue spewing stupidity all over the place.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:16 PM   #43
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Nixon was NEVER impeached. Jesus crockett...I know you don't have much knowledge of history...but at least use Google. Nixon resigned BEFORE Congress could impeach him. YES...the Congress definitely would have...but right now there are only TWO President's in history who have ever been impeached: Pres. Andrew Johnson AND...Bill Clinton.


Once again...READ and use Google. A President can give a sweeping preemptive pardon. Just like Ford did for Nixon.
Does anybody realize that you are on the internet and you can simply google this stuff up before posting?
Ok so let's say Obama Pardons Hillary for "all offenses against the United States which she … has committed or may have committed or taken part in" during her life or let's say since Bill's Presidency?. Then it's all of her minions that get hung out to dry. Someone is going to answer for it. Grant it most of the email players have been given immunity but there's still the foundation and more. Does everyone get this sweeping pardon? Is that the message the establishment wants to send to the country who just gave them a serious backlashing?
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Why not? It will strip the Republican party of their whipping boy (girl) and with no diversions they can take full responsibility for the deeds to come.

Let's play hand grenades.

The smart money is short or on the sidelines while the chump money is long term or leveraged in debt. Guess who loses?
I want to see them cut regulation like the promissed, lower health care/medication costs & bring jobs back.

Now that the GOP has the presidency, house & senate there will be zero excuses to actually do their jobs.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:32 PM   #45
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Ok so let's say Obama Pardons Hillary for "all offenses against the United States which she ? has committed or may have committed or taken part in" during her life or let's say since Bill's Presidency?. Then it's all of her minions that get hung out to dry. Someone is going to answer for it. Grant it most of the email players have been given immunity but there's still the foundation and more. Does everyone get this sweeping pardon? Is that the message the establishment wants to send to the country who just gave them a serious backlashing?
No one getting charged just like Bush jr/ Cheney didn't get chrged for lying about Iraq and the getmo shit..

Trump just fed you wing bats what you wanted to hear. Now he will play nice or Republicans will impeach him, so they can have Pence.

B4 Trump had nothing to lose, now he will have to be civil and toNE his act down.
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Ok so let's say Obama Pardons Hillary for "all offenses against the United States which she ? has committed or may have committed or taken part in" during her life or let's say since Bill's Presidency?. Then it's all of her minions that get hung out to dry. Someone is going to answer for it. Grant it most of the email players have been given immunity but there's still the foundation and more. Does everyone get this sweeping pardon? Is that the message the establishment wants to send to the country who just gave them a serious backlashing?
You are really reaching as to what is 'getting her' now aren't you? Politicians don't go after other politicians for a reason. expecting it now is just wishful thinking. just take the win and be happy with what you got.
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No one getting charged just like Bush jr/ Cheney didn't get chrged for lying about Iraq and the getmo shit..

Trump just fed you wing bats what you wanted to hear. Now he will play nice or Republicans will impeach him, so they can have Pence.

B4 Trump had nothing to lose, now he will have to be civil and toNE his act down.
This is true.

With the GOP ruling the house & senate Trump unfortunately is a slave to their (the establishments) agenda.
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That's a funny thought -- Trump is really a hostage of the Republican Party now
The sacrificial lamb so to speak ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_P...itical_stances

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Pence has stated that his role model as vice president would be Dick Cheney.[132 ...
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That's a funny thought -- Trump is really a hostage of the Republican Party now
The sacrificial lamb so to speak ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_P...itical_stances
Pence seems like he's in on the gig for Trump to be ousted somehow. Other VP potentials interviewed by Trump said he expected them to do most of the work of POTUS, I thought that was funny, and sounds exactly like Trump lol
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This is true.

With the GOP ruling the house & senate Trump unfortunately is a slave to their (the establishments) agenda.
Maybe not.

Trump might represent the Republican party, but the Republican party is not fully behind him. They might get behind him now that the election is over AND he is in office, but this hasn't been a normal election and I am guessing this will not be a normal administration.

For starters, he goes on trail for fraud on November 28th. His foundation is under investigation by the state of NY, and there are hundreds of other legal issues - these will not go away once he becomes president. As these items come to light the Republican party might shy away from him, and Trump will be at war (again) with his own party.

It's entirely possible that Trump will not have the support of the Republican party and the Democratic party.
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