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notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 03:26 PM

I've got a family member that used to make fair coin selling things on the Internet but it's been about a year or so since they've managed to sell a single thing.

Their Ebay account has a perfect score of hundreds of positive feedbacks but now no one buys anything. They've tried craigslist, kijiji and even facebook sale groups but again from what I understand they've sold 1 item last summer and nothing since.

Now they're on to Etsy and they're getting the same circle jerk. Only this time it's a bunch of bunk about list more items on Etsy with promises that they will suddenly start selling like gang busters. Also same bullshit excuses about "do better content' in the listings.

Frankly I suspect that these sites are being just as corrupt as a porn site. They're using bot traffic, fake posters, shills, etc. Etsy is in my opinion is literally copying every dirty trick that a porno webmaster will use to create the illusion of being popular.

If you ask me we're now into Web 4.0 (aka. The fake Internet)

onwebcam · 11-30-2016, 03:42 PM

Depends on what you're selling. I do 6 figures a year through ebay alone but as with anything you must have a niche. Unique high end items and the ability to undercut everyone else is best. Garage sale and/or flea market stuff you're wasting time.

kane · 11-30-2016, 04:34 PM

What are they trying to sell? I don't doubt that some of the traffic to these sites is fake and that the traffic numbers might be fudged, but people sell stuff all day every day on those sites. I think it likely is either what they are selling or how they are presenting it.

Bladewire · 11-30-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I've got a family member that used to make fair coin selling things on the Internet but it's been about a year or so since they've managed to sell a single thing.

Their Ebay account has a perfect score of hundreds of positive feedbacks but now no one buys anything. They've tried craigslist, kijiji and even facebook sale groups but again from what I understand they've sold 1 item last summer and nothing since.

Now they're on to Etsy and they're getting the same circle jerk. Only this time it's a bunch of bunk about list more items on Etsy with promises that they will suddenly start selling like gang busters. Also same bullshit excuses about "do better content' in the listings.

Frankly I suspect that these sites are being just as corrupt as a porn site. They're using bot traffic, fake posters, shills, etc. Etsy is in my opinion is literally copying every dirty trick that a porno webmaster will use to create the illusion of being popular.

If you ask me we're now into Web 4.0 (aka. The fake Internet)

I loved Etsy, then they started spamming me almost everyday so I spammed them. I randomly went there a few days ago and still like it.

Amazon is taking over the Etsy niche with their "Handmade" line of listings.

Amazon has taken over most of the Ebay market share for new goods.

I don't doubt all the sites you listed have all the "web 4.0", as you say, tricks to stay relevant. I'd gather 20%-30% of any platform these days is fakes & bots, no exaggeration. They should make all bots and fake accounts illegal but we still get spam delivered in snail mail so I'm not holding my breath.

bronco67 · 11-30-2016, 05:32 PM

If what you're selling is worth something, people will buy it. That is, if they actually know it exists.

notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

What are they trying to sell? I don't doubt that some of the traffic to these sites is fake and that the traffic numbers might be fudged, but people sell stuff all day every day on those sites. I think it likely is either what they are selling or how they are presenting it.

The thing is they used to make money right until they needed to borrow money from me.

They've changed their product line several times based on what so-called "experts" have advised them to do. In fact from what I'm told they did the entire run from asking from the site for help, to taking advice from the communities to stuff like Marmelead.

I just told them to just advertise online that they buy gold for cash and dump it. Buy it cheap and without questions. Or get a stall at a flea market or some other venue to sell other stuff.

It's a circle jerk these days of blaming the seller and not the site. The same game that was (perhaps still is) being played with content producers.

kane · 11-30-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

The thing is they used to make money right until they needed to borrow money from me.

They've changed their product line several times based on what so-called "experts" have advised them to do. In fact from what I'm told they did the entire run from asking from the site for help, to taking advice from the communities to stuff like Marmelead.

I just told them to just advertise online that they buy gold for cash and dump it. Buy it cheap and without questions. Or get a stall at a flea market or some other venue to sell other stuff.

It's a circle jerk these days of blaming the seller and not the site. The same game that was (perhaps still is) being played with content producers.

It sounds like it was a case of, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." And they went ahead and tried to fix it and fixed themselves right out of business.

blackmonsters · 11-30-2016, 07:26 PM

I stopped trying to sell on Ebay almost a decade ago.
I thought the way ebay worked for sellers was unfair.

kane · 11-30-2016, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I stopped trying to sell on Ebay almost a decade ago.
I thought the way ebay worked for sellers was unfair.

I used to sell a lot of stuff on there when I bought storage units, but their fees got so high it became hard to make a profit on a lot of things.

On occasion I will buy something from Ebay, but I haven't tried to sell anything in years.

notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I used to sell a lot of stuff on there when I bought storage units, but their fees got so high it became hard to make a profit on a lot of things.

On occasion I will buy something from Ebay, but I haven't tried to sell anything in years.

If you ask me that's the problem with most sites. They had something that worked for the end user and then they decided to monkey with the site. Now they're stuck using fake bots, fake sellers, shills, etc.

blackmonsters · 11-30-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I used to sell a lot of stuff on there when I bought storage units, but their fees got so high it became hard to make a profit on a lot of things.

On occasion I will buy something from Ebay, but I haven't tried to sell anything in years.

I quit ebay for good after I listed a domain with a reserve price that didn't sale and ebay charged me $40 for that.

Bladewire · 11-30-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I quit ebay for good after I listed a domain with a reserve price that didn't sale and ebay charged me $40 for that.

What The Fuck

notinmybackyard · 11-30-2016, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I quit ebay for good after I listed a domain with a reserve price that didn't sale and ebay charged me $40 for that.

I tried to sell an old DAC on kijiji. The thing never sold but I got spammed constantly by kijiji to buy advertising.

So I emailed them back and bitching that my stuff didn't sell and they gave me a free trial premium ad placement to list my DAC... It still didn't sell.

I finally took it to a local auction here in Montreal and I ended up getting almost as much as I originally paid for it.

TCLGirls · 11-30-2016, 09:46 PM

I sell stuff on EBAY and still maintain a high profit margin...but that's only because I am buying merchandise from Home Depot for 1 cent each. (Do a Google search on it).

ErectMedia · 11-30-2016, 10:15 PM

I buy a ton of little shit on ebay/amazon. Haven't tried to sell anything in years though. Have a ton of shit to sell but know I'll never get around to mailing it when it sells

so gonna hold off till caught up and then clear some junk out craigslist, ebay etc...

Google Expert · 11-30-2016, 10:32 PM

What are they selling?

If a buyer doesn't want it, then how the fuck is it eBay's fault? Maybe try not to sell shit? Maybe surfers found a better source of whatever your family member sells that hadn't been available before?

Just today I bought 4 items from Ebay, 1 from Amazon and 3 from Grailed. And it wasn't little shit either.

Bladewire · 11-30-2016, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ErectMedia

I buy a ton of little shit on ebay

Used dildos are niche you can't get those on Amazon or any other mainstream sites

ErectMedia · 11-30-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Used dildos are niche you can't get those on Amazon or any other mainstream sites

Sad that you would know that.

crockett · 11-30-2016, 10:57 PM

Ebay seems to be the more often you are listing new items the higher your rankings will be. Granted assuming you don't have a lot of defects..

11-30-2016, 03:26 PM	#1
notinmybackyard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,230	Ebay, Etsy, Craigslist, kijiji and Facebook I've got a family member that used to make fair coin selling things on the Internet but it's been about a year or so since they've managed to sell a single thing. Their Ebay account has a perfect score of hundreds of positive feedbacks but now no one buys anything. They've tried craigslist, kijiji and even facebook sale groups but again from what I understand they've sold 1 item last summer and nothing since. Now they're on to Etsy and they're getting the same circle jerk. Only this time it's a bunch of bunk about list more items on Etsy with promises that they will suddenly start selling like gang busters. Also same bullshit excuses about "do better content' in the listings. Frankly I suspect that these sites are being just as corrupt as a porn site. They're using bot traffic, fake posters, shills, etc. Etsy is in my opinion is literally copying every dirty trick that a porno webmaster will use to create the illusion of being popular. If you ask me we're now into Web 4.0 (aka. The fake Internet) __________________ *officially retired as of March 01 2018 but still fucking around and getting into shit.*

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ErectMedia Confirmed Chicago Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 7,100	I buy a ton of little shit on ebay/amazon. Haven't tried to sell anything in years though. Have a ton of shit to sell but know I'll never get around to mailing it when it sells so gonna hold off till caught up and then clear some junk out craigslist, ebay etc... __________________ Domain Name Registration Web3 Domains

11-30-2016, 04:34 PM	#3
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	What are they trying to sell? I don't doubt that some of the traffic to these sites is fake and that the traffic numbers might be fudged, but people sell stuff all day every day on those sites. I think it likely is either what they are selling or how they are presenting it.

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TCLGirls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: California Posts: 3,068	I sell stuff on EBAY and still maintain a high profit margin...but that's only because I am buying merchandise from Home Depot for 1 cent each. (Do a Google search on it).

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Google Expert Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14,295	What are they selling? If a buyer doesn't want it, then how the fuck is it eBay's fault? Maybe try not to sell shit? Maybe surfers found a better source of whatever your family member sells that hadn't been available before? Just today I bought 4 items from Ebay, 1 from Amazon and 3 from Grailed. And it wasn't little shit either.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Ebay seems to be the more often you are listing new items the higher your rankings will be. Granted assuming you don't have a lot of defects..