Should I continue with porn or no?

[galavance]

I don't know if my stats are good and I still have to wait or if I should just delete all of my work and do something else.

I have a website in which I tried to utilize affiliate offers in a different manner than banners and stuff. Honestly, there's still a lot of work left in it but I DO NOT want to put the time in for peanuts.

I have made $22.00 in my crakrev account since June. I have 12.3k REAL followers on twitter, every single one is real, but I can tell they just love getting free porn. I did 4m impressions and 400k profile visits last month. This month I'm on the same track with 1.7m impressions and 70k profile visits

I have one free registration of revshare on chaturbate ( i haven't been doing them long. maybe 7 days).

I do believe, on the whole, my conversion % is better than most.

but my twitter is really the only traffic source I've worked on and it's not really good. as I said, people just love me throwing out free porn for them and I dont really see any conversions..

I can not keep spending time making crap, but I also don't know if my stuff is burgeoning and I'm making a mistake throwing away everything that I've done thus far.

My next plans would be to make more niche specific twitter and try to funnel my existing twitters users to there. While adding more to my site (but again, i cant justify continually working on it without seeing a big payoff)

[galavance]

i should say that I've not REALLY tried to get traffic that hard, but that's because my website isn't done and still needs a lot of work.

I have mostly been working on design and figuring out how I was going to convery the material.

My analytics says 500 users total have come to the site since its inception (even though I think this is wrong as it said 500 users previously and I think I have some spam or something)

[j3rkules]

How many clicks do you get from twitter to your links? Twitter traffic does not convert so well, it is harder to find a buyer there.

[bravo99]

Originally Posted by jerkules

How many clicks do you get from twitter to your links? Twitter traffic does not convert so well, it is harder to find a buyer there.

If twitter traffic doesn't convert, then what traffic does?

[emmasexytime]

google search traffic from ranking is the best



twitter is good to get your site out into the mainstream

https://twitter.com/VoyeurBoss

[gnawledge]

I wouldn't give up. I think it takes a certain person, niche related and some traffic to convert Crakrev. Me, I've driven traffic and I can't make a damn thing.

Chaturbate does well for me. Bonga, Live Jasmin and some others don't. I'd look around on here to see what people are hinting at so that you can get an idea.

I wouldn't leave Twitter for much help. Some people are pros and can convert.

[menxzy]

Yes for me twitter is hard to convert also. i dont know how to write good tweet inside image / video. i only post video with links and standard text like chat with sexy../ who is online..

[galavance]

Originally Posted by jerkules

How many clicks do you get from twitter to your links? Twitter traffic does not convert so well, it is harder to find a buyer there.

it depends. i have some videos from camshows which im sure the cam site doesn't like, but i link directly to their room from there.

THOSE have gotten 130 and 150 clicks respectively (I've only done this twice).

Right now, this month. I have two videos with 373 likes and 173 retweets and another video with 246likes and 111 retweets.

Chaturbate, is averaging about 30 clicks per link (but SIGNIFICANT drop in retweets and likes). Link I threw out this morning of a live girl had 7 likes, 0 retweets and chaturbate says 37 clicks on my revshare link.

My website direct traffic is now equal to my social traffic. but its still horse chit

for september it says 169k profile visits on twitter.. and i've had 300 visitors total from twitter since september 27th

I had my best day about a week ago when I had 2 conversions on crak rev with 72 uniques. As I said before, I've been converting with not many uniques but this past week ive sent about 100 uniques a day with 0 conversions.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by emmasexytime

google search traffic from ranking is the best



twitter is good to get your site out into the mainstream

do you notice a difference in conversions with twitter?

or is it mainly for promotion/ just getting the word out?

SEO is what im coming to, as it makes sense in that they are more targeted

[galavance]

Originally Posted by menxzy

Yes for me twitter is hard to convert also. i dont know how to write good tweet inside image / video. i only post video with links and standard text like chat with sexy../ who is online..

that's pretty much what i do. im not sure how different we can be if we're not the cam model??

i've linked directly to my site too

[galavance]

what im thinking about now.. is creating a tube. seo'ing the chit out of it (how hard is that to rank..impossible?)

that way i can accrue more traffic that i can funnel to my other sites

[RachelBlackG]

I have Twitter with 1583 followers, but with minimum activity. There's like 1-2 likes per tweet. I tried to communicate with all fans. Said thanks even for likes and RT, but it doesn't help. I'd go with tube as well ;-)

Ranking tube site can be easy if you make it in good niche. Google looks at general focus of your site which helps A LOT in ranking. If you make it general (free porn, sex tube etc.), you won't rank at all without spending trillions of $.

[silviuh90]

Don't give up! But try to mix your traffic sources and track them separately.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by galavance

I don't know if my stats are good and I still have to wait or if I should just delete all of my work and do something else.

I have a website in which I tried to utilize affiliate offers in a different manner than banners and stuff. Honestly, there's still a lot of work left in it but I DO NOT want to put the time in for peanuts.

I have made $22.00 in my crakrev account since June. I have 12.3k REAL followers on twitter, every single one is real, but I can tell they just love getting free porn. I did 4m impressions and 400k profile visits last month. This month I'm on the same track with 1.7m impressions and 70k profile visits

I have one free registration of revshare on chaturbate ( i haven't been doing them long. maybe 7 days).

I do believe, on the whole, my conversion % is better than most.

but my twitter is really the only traffic source I've worked on and it's not really good. as I said, people just love me throwing out free porn for them and I dont really see any conversions..

I can not keep spending time making crap, but I also don't know if my stuff is burgeoning and I'm making a mistake throwing away everything that I've done thus far.

My next plans would be to make more niche specific twitter and try to funnel my existing twitters users to there. While adding more to my site (but again, i cant justify continually working on it without seeing a big payoff)

I am not clear if you are actually making content or just recycle everybody's shit...

[Aleksandra BongaCash]

Hey, never give up!
Try tumblr, fb and other social networks..
Is there a chance to see your website?
Feel free to contact me if you would like to check BongaCash offer

[galavance]

THE most annoying thing to me is that you have to wait to view how things are working..

so my clicks/ traffic has died off. i haven't been throwing my links out like i was on twitter so theyre being buried by newer posts. i also changed my website around to something i thought was more effective

because i could tell that people weren't clicking around my website. i decided to throw chaturbate live cams on the front page. clicks were better.

but my first page was also comprised of MFC material, so i thought it was confusing to go to a site with "cams" in it and then have material to one channel, and then material to another channel..all on the front page.

so i took the embedded live cams off and made a "live cams" page and yet.. chaturbate has 3 clicks today. ive been averaging 30-50 since day 1 ive promoted them

lawd

i cant tell whether its non promotion on twitter or the design of my site (which should be better imo)

[sarettah]

I don't see u putting a url out there for anybody to take a look at your site. Easier to give advice if we know what we are advising on. Can't tell how you sit in the SEs and stuff like that so it is very hard to give you any meaningful recommendations.

So I will stick with the worn out cliches. Never give up. Never surrender.

Nanu nanu.


.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I don't see u putting a url out there for anybody to take a look at your site. Easier to give advice if we know what we are advising on. Can't tell how you sit in the SEs and stuff like that so it is very hard to give you any meaningful recommendations.

So I will stick with the worn out cliches. Never give up. Never surrender.

Nanu nanu.


.

yes, i appreciate that.

im debating about whether i should throw out my url..

i think i want to fix some things first

i do not rank in google. as i got a dmca thing that removed it from google from one of the cam models. i do not think its valid though as it's not the cam site who instigated it.

i could fight it or prob have it reviewed but i wanted to make more $$ through social media before doing so

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by galavance

yes, i appreciate that.

im debating about whether i should throw out my url..

i think i want to fix some things first

i do not rank in google. as i got a dmca thing that removed it from google from one of the cam models. i do not think its valid though as it's not the cam site who instigated it.

i could fight it or prob have it reviewed but i wanted to make more $$ through social media before doing so

Get rid of the image or movie that earned you the dmca first of all. Don't worry about whether the dmca came from the right place or not, just get rid of it. You don't need the hassle.

Then just use stuff you have the rights to. Stuff provided by the sponsor or purchased through a reputable content source.

If you do cam videos without the cam models or cam sites permission you are liable to lose your sponsor over it and usually they do that after you have built up some payout but before it pays out, ya know?

Always best to not have people coming after you because you decided to do an end around on the rules.

Your best bet for getting converting traffic is to get into the SEs, build backlinks, play the SEO game. Best traffic out there.

just imho.

.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Get rid of the image or movie that earned you the dmca first of all. Don't worry about whether the dmca came from the right place or not, just get rid of it. You don't need the hassle.

Then just use stuff you have the rights to. Stuff provided by the sponsor or purchased through a reputable content source.

If you do cam videos without the cam models or cam sites permission you are liable to lose your sponsor over it and usually they do that after you have built up some payout but before it pays out, ya know?

Always best to not have people coming after you because you decided to do an end around on the rules.

Your best bet for getting converting traffic is to get into the SEs, build backlinks, play the SEO game. Best traffic out there.

just imho.

.

honestly, if that's what it comes to man.. ill prob just quit and start something else

MFC has ZERO promotional tools. I edited vids down to less than 5 minutes and link directly to their room

and i see all of this talk about tubes, and all that jazz

hell, over on blackhatworld guys making decent money from porn reuploading..

there's so much of it going on that i tried to utilize it myself. i am not a content producer

HOWEVER, I have tried to sign up as an affiliate at most of these places funneling them money. there are some organizational kinks i (would) have to work out but i haven't done so yet

i also have ideas of other sites id start, but im not sure how effective it is considering what we're talking about.

just signed up on pimproll so that may be a way to utilize stuff differently as well

[celandina]

Originally Posted by celandina

I am not clear if you are actually making content or just recycle everybody's shit...

I get it, just recycling and stealing others shit....
Go work parking cars...

[galavance]

Originally Posted by celandina

I get it, just recycling and stealing others shit....
Go work parking cars...

explain to me what an affiliate marketer does? if the cam models were so smart they'd realize they're only hurting themselves and in fact are actually MAKING themselves money by spreading the word. god forbid the terms worked out for the affiliate marketing company in which im sure they profit in some capacity but the customer also spends money on the particular model giving them money directly

secondly, you sound like a bitter porn star. lol'd at morality play within this industry.

while you're at it explain to me the nuances of social media and whether they would exist in their capacity if it weren't for what you're talking about.

because im so positive everybody wants to hear everybody's shower thoughts and most people are so important they want everybody to be privy to their grandiose lifestyle

yea, im totally positive facebook, tumblr, twitter and the internet as a whole would have taken off if that were the case

[amateurcanada]

Originally Posted by galavance

I don't know if my stats are good and I still have to wait or if I should just delete all of my work and do something else.

I have a website in which I tried to utilize affiliate offers in a different manner than banners and stuff. Honestly, there's still a lot of work left in it but I DO NOT want to put the time in for peanuts.

I have made $22.00 in my crakrev account since June. I have 12.3k REAL followers on twitter, every single one is real, but I can tell they just love getting free porn. I did 4m impressions and 400k profile visits last month. This month I'm on the same track with 1.7m impressions and 70k profile visits

I have one free registration of revshare on chaturbate ( i haven't been doing them long. maybe 7 days).

I do believe, on the whole, my conversion % is better than most.

but my twitter is really the only traffic source I've worked on and it's not really good. as I said, people just love me throwing out free porn for them and I dont really see any conversions..

I can not keep spending time making crap, but I also don't know if my stuff is burgeoning and I'm making a mistake throwing away everything that I've done thus far.

My next plans would be to make more niche specific twitter and try to funnel my existing twitters users to there. While adding more to my site (but again, i cant justify continually working on it without seeing a big payoff)

I would recommend on concentrating on that ONE IDEA or CONCEPT that actually makes money or converts. If you find one thing on your network that works then just make hybrids of the same thing times 100 and multiply your success. From there you can see what works for you and move from there

[celandina]

Originally Posted by galavance

explain to me what an affiliate marketer does? if the cam models were so smart they'd realize they're only hurting themselves and in fact are actually MAKING themselves money by spreading the word. god forbid the terms worked out for the affiliate marketing company in which im sure they profit in some capacity but the customer also spends money on the particular model giving them money directly

secondly, you sound like a bitter porn star. lol'd at morality play within this industry.

while you're at it explain to me the nuances of social media and whether they would exist in their capacity if it weren't for what you're talking about.

because im so positive everybody wants to hear everybody's shower thoughts and most people are so important they want everybody to be privy to their grandiose lifestyle

yea, im totally positive facebook, tumblr, twitter and the internet as a whole would have taken off if that were the case

Your OP stated you have a website. Website means content. The content can be original or recycled. That was my question, which you did not answer and now you bitch about only wanting a postivie feedback. Positive for what?? So now you are whining and not giving any info.

... And no, I am no pornstar but run content sites, recycling none.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by celandina

Your OP stated you have a website. Website means content. The content can be original or recycled. That was my question, which you did not answer and now you bitch about only wanting a postivie feedback. Positive for what?? So now you are whining and not giving any info.

... And no, I am no pornstar but run content sites, recycling none.

it's a mix of both.. and im quite mad at MFC because they have ZERO promotional tools for their affiliates, especially as compared to many others. I tried to utilize their stuff in a different capacity, but im not sure i'll bother

I was always a fan but after no response and little help I have fallen off the bandwagon.

Now its a matter of deciding whether all of that is worth it. I was getting ready to write hundreds of reviews

[galavance]

Originally Posted by amateurcanada

I would recommend on concentrating on that ONE IDEA or CONCEPT that actually makes money or converts. If you find one thing on your network that works then just make hybrids of the same thing times 100 and multiply your success. From there you can see what works for you and move from there

i agree.. i appreciate it

also, this is not to you but in regards to a question celendina proposed and more a general statement

i wasn't looking for "positive reviews"

i was trying to ascertain how long it took people to make money. as I said i couldn't continue to work on this without seeing a payoff. I was trying to see how how long, how much time they spent, how many websites etc. in order to start seeing decent money

i would be happy with just 10 dollars a day as at the very least i'd know its producing something.

[MegaSexyCams]

I've been at this game for 2 months and I haven't made a dime. I'm not discouraged as I think I'm just scratching the surface of what can be achieved.
My time frame is 6 months, if nothing after six months I must be be really doing something wrong.
There is so much to learn, it's hard as there is no "Dummies" book. Everyone keeps there cards close to their chest, which is understandable. So it's not like you can ask a "porn consultant" to evaluate your website(s) and social media efforts and give you a report back detailing what your doing right and what your doing wrong.
Just my thoughts...
Cheers.

[AutoTubeTool]

Just a few words on the subject:

- Twitter do not convert today, neither Tumblr or Pintrest, for the simple reason that there is way to much free content available and to much spam. Some times I am asking myself if there are any real persons left on Twitter between all bots running 24/7

- From my experience 0.5 CPM is quite a "standard", but that do not mean conversion rate, you have to put in account probable another 0.1 PM, so basically, until you don't generate huge traffic chances are minimal to zero to earn anything

- You try to make a business in a market segment that did not come up yesterday. Your not on a virgin land .. there is a lot of competition.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by AutoTubeTool

Just a few words on the subject:

- Twitter do not convert today, neither Tumblr or Pintrest, for the simple reason that there is way to much free content available and to much spam. Some times I am asking myself if there are any real persons left on Twitter between all bots running 24/7

- From my experience 0.5 CPM is quite a "standard", but that do not mean conversion rate, you have to put in account probable another 0.1 PM, so basically, until you don't generate huge traffic chances are minimal to zero to earn anything

- You try to make a business in a market segment that did not come up yesterday. Your not on a virgin land .. there is a lot of competition.

I agree a lot. Thats what i think of the entire internet actually. Thats why niche research is paramount

There is zero chance you replace top dog buying/ selling millions in adverts that are also trying to keep you down

It does seem you either make a lot of money, or little money on the internet.

Also, all of my twitter users are real. I used tweepi and narrowed down the search function for active users

It wasnt great but i think my twitter qas greater than avg. If i had multiple i could see it being more effective, which is what most people do

[achristopher]

Personally, I'd stay away from Crakrev. I've never had much luck with them and I've tried them. I'd go with JuicyAds.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by achristopher

Personally, I'd stay away from Crakrev. I've never had much luck with them and I've tried them. I'd go with JuicyAds.

i kind of agree but i've seen people making 1,500 a week

and others with totals over 100k from crakrev. i dont like their offers but it looks like they may convert.

i got a conversion for one of their pay sites but i dont think they put their credit card in..

anyways, im pretty pissed because i've done all of this work.

my site is way different than a normal porn site, but i dont own all of the material so i dont think it's worth the risk.

i would bet that the porn stars and other people get royalties + money from directly linking to them on my site, but again, i don't own the material and i dont want to run into trouble down the line..

i've mostly bounced out of porn but im keeping my twitter in which im seeing some conversions and my white labels

[KyleC]

If you give up, we make more money. (We are fine with that)
So think it through before you go fuck yourself.

[sexy_media]

Porn is the chess of internet business, make the right move and you're good, make the wrong move they'll trap your king and check all over your mate.

[celandina]

Make a decent content and win, recycle shit and end up in a garbage heap and save the planet...

[galavance]

Originally Posted by celandina

Make a decent content and win, recycle shit and end up in a garbage heap and save the planet...

unfortunately for you i know of people who are definitely not content producers making bank

unfortunately it also requires vpns, proxies, banning and re-making multiple accounts. basically, sketchy chit

i just don't see why people who don't own the material risk it.

i have 20 something thousand twitter followers. pretty sure i could use my cellphone and record anything going on and make bank

but for some reason i dont really want to

not that there isn't money in porn but the free tube sites definitely killed a lot of profit

its like my twitter users. i can totally tell they just love free porn

[Focus]

Originally Posted by galavance

unfortunately for you i know of people who are definitely not content producers making bank

unfortunately it also requires vpns, proxies, banning and re-making multiple accounts. basically, sketchy chit

i just don't see why people who don't own the material risk it.

i have 20 something thousand twitter followers. pretty sure i could use my cellphone and record anything going on and make bank

but for some reason i dont really want to

not that there isn't money in porn but the free tube sites definitely killed a lot of profit

its like my twitter users. i can totally tell they just love free porn

Your problem aint if you should quit or not but you are missing motivation man. I started with 20$ and I end up out performing my sponsors and lot of those big tubes and the kicker is i don't even need to show full stupid videos like lot of them do to get well over xx,xxx monthly its just how you promote. Porn is like anything else really, anything can be sold online with work. Just write down how you can get traffic, how to market the products and tease your traffic so bad that they will think they cant get this anywhere else but where you sending them to.

After that the rest is history and just keep hustling and work hard until you do not have to introduce yourself ;)

[galavance]

Originally Posted by Focus

Your problem aint if you should quit or not but you are missing motivation man. I started with 20$ and I end up out performing my sponsors and lot of those big tubes and the kicker is i don't even need to show full stupid videos like lot of them do to get well over xx,xxx monthly its just how you promote. Porn is like anything else really, anything can be sold online with work. Just write down how you can get traffic, how to market the products and tease your traffic so bad that they will think they cant get this anywhere else but where you sending them to.

After that the rest is history and just keep hustling and work hard until you do not have to introduce yourself ;)

i definitely dont have the motivation for porn. or havent

i dont really feel like going the sketchy route and using proxies to make different accounts when my account gets banned for DMCA

i know of people making picture blogs who have thousands of pictures that aren't theirs.

my little foray into porn i got a dmca shortly after my site was up. i just do not want to get more involved and get a letter from a lawyer demanding 8k compensation (this is the general # they throw out). i assume that it can get much more expensive in real cases

[celandina]

There are smart thieves and stupid thieves, yet both are theives. If you are a decent person you either make the content and then sell it or go work for somebody. The advice you mostly getting here is to go steal a little and it will be ok... NOT, you still will be a thief.

[Focus]

Originally Posted by galavance

i definitely dont have the motivation for porn. or havent

i dont really feel like going the sketchy route and using proxies to make different accounts when my account gets banned for DMCA

i know of people making picture blogs who have thousands of pictures that aren't theirs.

my little foray into porn i got a dmca shortly after my site was up. i just do not want to get more involved and get a letter from a lawyer demanding 8k compensation (this is the general # they throw out). i assume that it can get much more expensive in real cases

Why are you even need to think about the sketchy route the sponsors are all offering you short contents for you to be used and help you find ways to promote. Just pick one good sponsor and work with them.

[Focus]

Originally Posted by celandina

There are smart thieves and stupid thieves, yet both are theives. If you are a decent person you either make the content and then sell it or go work for somebody. The advice you mostly getting here is to go steal a little and it will be ok... NOT, you still will be a thief.

lol you need your own comedy show, no one here telling him to steal anything. Instead of always just discouraging people learn to help them or just be quiet already.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by Focus

lol you need your own comedy show, no one here telling him to steal anything. Instead of always just discouraging people learn to help them or just be quiet already.

I agree with you. It can be marketing (affiliate)

I.e. using other peoples content to promote

[galavance]

Originally Posted by Focus

Why are you even need to think about the sketchy route the sponsors are all offering you short contents for you to be used and help you find ways to promote. Just pick one good sponsor and work with them.

Are you telling me you make bank using other peoples content?

I signed up as an affiliate at most places and the idea of my site was different. But one of the models either filed a generic complaint herself or had one of her lawyers do it.

I got deindexed on google and could gave fought it.

Anyways, i was going to try and make it work that way but are you telling me you use websites solely comprised of affiliate marketing stuff?

[Focus]

Originally Posted by galavance

Are you telling me you make bank using other peoples content?

I signed up as an affiliate at most places and the idea of my site was different. But one of the models either filed a generic complaint herself or had one of her lawyers do it.

I got deindexed on google and could gave fought it.

Anyways, i was going to try and make it work that way but are you telling me you use websites solely comprised of affiliate marketing stuff?

Correct, hosting the videos provided by affiliate marketing to start with then when sales start coming in some will even do the upload for you (by some i mean the sponsors marketing staff) just incase some smart kids thinks other wise.

the hard and fun part is for you to get traffic rolling your way

[galavance]

Originally Posted by Focus

Correct, hosting the videos provided by affiliate marketing to start with then when sales start coming in some will even do the upload for you (by some i mean the sponsors marketing staff) just incase some smart kids thinks other wise.

the hard and fun part is for you to get traffic rolling your way

so you have one site comprised of one sponsor or a whole bunch of other sponsors?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Focus

lol you need your own comedy show, no one here telling him to steal anything. Instead of always just discouraging people learn to help them or just be quiet already.

Either learn how to read in English or

[TheWorkingMan]

Doesn't sound like a great plan. Maybe try our different methods. It's all about changing up things.

[galavance]

Originally Posted by TheWorkingMan

Doesn't sound like a great plan. Maybe try our different methods. It's all about changing up things.

Yea the real plan was acting like a fake cam model and getting stuff that way but i didnt want to do it

I believe in twitter but i definitely think its better if you have a legit brand

[celandina]

Originally Posted by galavance

Yea the real plan was acting like a fake cam model and getting stuff that way but i didnt want to do it

I believe in twitter but i definitely think its better if you have a legit brand

As I have said several times above....."legit" ( as compared to stolen) is the way to go..

[ufotestpilot]

No. Absolutely not

[celandina]

Originally Posted by ufotestpilot

No. Absolutely not

I guess you are one of those: