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Old 01-30-2017, 07:11 PM   #51
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We'll then we'll agree to disagree. I think the Sturm und Drang is pointless, and we need to focus on 18 and 20 with real preparation and action. If you believe there is another way, then best of luck.
And good luck to you in your own efforts!

I think "sturm und drang" might be a misnomer, as that seems to be what Trump's approach was to the election and the response is quite logical and reasoned as a pushback against his alternative-fact appeal to emotions above all else.
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Old 01-31-2017, 02:41 AM   #52
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a) did you try to leave your mass media bubble for a while ? as long as there will be loonies and bad guys, there will be always a terror...it is not something to get rid off by 100 %... how many people are dying in car accidents per year in France and how many in terrorists attacks (that are not car "accidents" lol) ? if you are sheep to be ruled by fear, well then you are sheep. Not saying that letting in milions of people without any checks on them was a wise thing to do though
b) too bad that you are hero Trump was saying completely different thing back then when the war in Iraq just started.

You are putting so much faith in this guy that is rather funny and amusing, he is your ideal cure for all your bitterness, maybe you will get wiser after few years and see that this change wasnt actually for better but for worse. but it will be too late prolly for that, like it is always is for short sighted people.

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Tip: Leave that bubble once in a while to get a dose of reality. People are being blown, shot up and run over by Isis members who travelled along with the huge immigrant wave her in Europe.

Throw millions of people of a women- and western culture hating ideology in a western society and you get a culture clash. Simple logic. Add in traveling Isis members to the mix and the melting pot of chaos and mayhem is complete.

But please, continue to believe in fairy tales! Go spread your message to the families of the dead and raped


FYI trump is the only one who publicly spoke out that Iraq and Libya would be better off without any war mongering by the US. Yet you libs condemn him and embrace the war mongering establishment of the Clintons = Obama = Bush. I thought you guys were anti war?
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Old 01-31-2017, 02:51 AM   #53
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and yeah, this thread wouldn't be complete without femdomdestiny's input of course
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Old 01-31-2017, 02:54 AM   #54
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Elli,

The Economist - Rothschild i.e. Western propaganda

Al Jazeera - Western propaganda for the Arab world (a small bit of truth thrown in too now and again)

The Washington Post - Fake News

The Guardian - Well written and sourced, but also filled with propaganda (global warming, vaccines, EU etc)

The CBC - Fake News

PBS News Hour - Fake News

NHK World - I've never tried it, will check it out

BBC World - BBC is official Western propaganda

RT America - Very good choice, they will tell you things that your own media won't. Of course they have their own propaganda about their own country, but they are in a position to tell you the truth about US/Europe.

If you want to find out some stories which the mainstream media are trying to avoid, you will often find it posted here

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/
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Old 01-31-2017, 05:19 AM   #55
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Old 01-31-2017, 05:27 AM   #56
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That's just a propaganda post by a sockpuppet, be careful about taking stuff on Reddit at facevalue
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Old 01-31-2017, 06:16 AM   #57
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the speech he gave in the Vatican was really disturbing
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Old 01-31-2017, 10:10 PM   #58
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And good luck to you in your own efforts!

I think "sturm und drang" might be a misnomer, as that seems to be what Trump's approach was to the election and the response is quite logical and reasoned as a pushback against his alternative-fact appeal to emotions above all else.
" extremes of emotion were given free expression in reaction to the perceived...." I think I hit it spot on. This is a human that can easily be defeated IMHO, and he isn't going to overthrow the government just like Obama wasn't going to go for anyone's guns. This heightened state of "war" is a fund raising tactic and a tragic result of our two party system.

Honestly reminds me of my friend's divorce where every single thing the other person does is seen from the most damning perspective, and they are treated as the basest demon wearing flesh.

We'll have to agree to disagree again.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:43 AM   #59
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I find this hard to believe.

Our military has always leaned Republican, but keeps out of political issues.

I am on a lot of military message boards and Facebook groups, and I haven't seen anything of the sort.
A good friend of mine whom I did happy hour while in the states with is an Army Lieutenant Colonel and runs a Battalion that does officer training. He is considering leaving his position specifically because he fears he is training new officers that will be set out to run ops of questionable ethics. There is some thought going into where this is all headed.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:44 AM   #60
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the speech he gave in the Vatican was really disturbing
I read it and you are correct. It was absolutely disturbing.
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Old 02-01-2017, 06:33 AM   #61
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:21 AM   #62
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Don't compare the situation in the US to the situation in Europe when it comes to Islamic terrorism. In France there are communities full of Muslims with festering pockets of radicals, ready to plot and carry out attacks.

That doesn't exist in the United STates, nor will it any time soon mainly by virtue of our geography. The middle east is a hop, skip and jump from the Europe. We're in a much better neighborhood being bordered by Mexico and Canada.

Trump is creating a lot of chaos and a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Actually, it would be wrong to say it doesn't exist at all, but not in a magnitude that calls for what he just did to make his rabid base happy.
They just sentenced someone here where I live for planning to carry out an attack on New Years last year, in the name of ISIS. For you to say this doesn't exist in the US is flat out false.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:49 AM   #63
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I find this hard to believe.

Our military has always leaned Republican, but keeps out of political issues.

I am on a lot of military message boards and Facebook groups, and I haven't seen anything of the sort.
You are correct if you are referring to military leadership but no necessarily the lower echelon rank and file though I do think probably a small majority exists there as well.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:50 AM   #64
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They just sentenced someone here where I live for planning to carry out an attack on New Years last year, in the name of ISIS. For you to say this doesn't exist in the US is flat out false.
That is not what he said.
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Old 02-02-2017, 04:59 AM   #65
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Old 02-02-2017, 10:49 AM   #66
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Coolest conspiracy theory on GFY for long time.
Right? I've got my hat on, but the shiny side might be facing the wrong way. Should it be in or out?
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:35 AM   #67
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Right? I've got my hat on, but the shiny side might be facing the wrong way. Should it be in or out?
who cares?? you are hot!
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:54 AM   #68
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Getting kinda old...Yes we all know that if you don't agree with the news it is Fake - you and wehateporn have overdone that drivel
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Old 02-02-2017, 12:15 PM   #69
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who cares?? you are hot!
In Other News: Women can have interesting thoughts and participate in interesting conversations!

But hey, thanks for the compliment.
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I've been working with Elli on a few things over the past few months.... Not only is she beautiful, but also super smart.

And that is a dangerous combination in our industry.
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