The N Word....

[TheSquealer]

"CNN's Chris Cuomo Says Being Called Fake News Is Like Being Called The N-Word. Feb 9, 2017"

I wonder if any African Americans can relate???

Jesus the the US media is in a complete free fall. They have a lower trust rating in polls than Congress and like Democrats, no matter how bad they keep screwing up, they want to play victim.... with public trust in a steady decline for over a decade and a half.

[Bladewire]

On behalf of my brotha in spirit BM

[1215]

Well you don't abbreviate FAKE NEWS to FN, do you?

At what point, does the overused in every rap song "N" word simply become a regular word again?

It's like saying bro or dude at this point. unless you use it in a mean context, then it's not so nice.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

"CNN's Chris Cuomo Says Being Called Fake News Is Like Being Called The N-Word. Feb 9, 2017"

I wonder if any African Americans can relate???

Jesus the the US media is in a complete free fall. They have a lower trust rating in polls than Congress and like Democrats, no matter how bad they keep screwing up, they want to play victim.... with public trust in a steady decline for over a decade and a half.

the problem is, that people still can´t deal with the internet.
since everybody can be "media" the written word have no substance anymore.
they do not know who they can trust and who not. they can not even see if behind a website is a big team of journalists or a one-man-show who want to publish his strange conviction or make money with banners around.

even here i saw a thread yesterday when somebody asked how to make money with fake news. And out there are really tons of fake news sites whose only reason for existence is a purely economic one.

at this point freedom of speech have to be overthought because in irresponsible hands it can lead to dramatic brainwash effects.

but also the established media should take that as a warning because of the fact that bad news leads to better editions end up in the circumstance that only bad news make the round.

[pimpmaster9000]

The media is not in the business of reporting the truth because the truth does not sell...

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by thommy

the problem is, that people still can´t deal with the internet.
since everybody can be "media" the written word have no substance anymore.
they do not know who they can trust and who not. they can not even see if behind a website is a big team of journalists or a one-man-show who want to publish his strange conviction or make money with banners around.

even here i saw a thread yesterday when somebody asked how to make money with fake news. And out there are really tons of fake news sites whose only reason for existence is a purely economic one.

at this point freedom of speech have to be overthought because in irresponsible hands it can lead to dramatic brainwash effects.

but also the established media should take that as a warning because of the fact that bad news leads to better editions end up in the circumstance that only bad news make the round.

no no no...review post 1: this is about the big 6 corporate media. the decline started WAYYYY before fake news websites. do you even know what the big 6 corporate media is? sounds like your a dupe.

get your facts straight you sound dumb when you argue alternative facts.

ps - love how you think all the readers are too dumb to tell the difference between reality & liberal trash! i think your the one who cant figure it out.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by thommy

at this point freedom of speech have to be overthought because in irresponsible hands it can lead to dramatic brainwash effects.

nice point. it applies to the big 6 corporate media, who collectively sobbed when their brainwash of hilarys 99% win, crashed.

funny how you have no idea...you're the dupe.

[seeandsee]

mass media are crooked fuckers

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

ps - love how you think all the readers are too dumb to tell the difference between reality & liberal trash! i think your the one who cant figure it out.

well, you are the living example.
you believe in the other extreme because you think all media lie - so you better believe in a WELL PROVED liar without comparing news or read international media (what do not have any reason to fake it because it will not bring them more sales). and that proves that you are an idiot.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

nice point. it applies to the big 6 corporate media, who collectively sobbed when their brainwash of hilarys 99% win, crashed.

funny how you have no idea...you're the dupe.

maybe exactly that was the mistake and they helped your clown to become the president.
if the voters who did not vote would believe that such a snake COULD win the elections, they would go all to prevent this human catastrophe.

[NewNick]

I have a suggestion (which will fly right over the heads of most of you ), but unless we see a return to a environment where media of all types have some enforced editorial responsibility, then Trump is just the start of the madness.

So please take your party hats off for one moment and consider the position. Firstly it just so happens that the crazy man is a republican, but his politics are irrelevent to the point I am making. We have the first leader delivered to us in a post FB/twitter world, and it has gone very badly indeed.

So here is my suggestion, everyone has to take responsibilty for what the say, for what they publish, for what they host, and for what they post.

I want an environment where publishing an outright lie will have consequencies, whoever you are, wherever you are.

A newspaper editor has to be able to prove that they had reasonable grounds to believe that a story is true. They will take steps to verify that what they have been told is true before they run a story. If they fail in this they are open to both legal action, and also regulatory action. The same goes for adverts that they print.

So why has this principle been lost online ? Why does FB plough on making enormous sums of money without taking any responsibily for the "news" it distributes. The same applies to twitter, google, youtube etc.
Why can any lying fuck buy a $10 domain, get a cheap host, and create a fake news site ?
Why can any lying fuck declare that his truth is the real truth and the rest is fake.
Why does the mainstream media bother employing journalists and news teams, adhere to common standards, when they are being ridiculed and derided by others with no editorial responsibility whatsoever.

This is not about TRUMP.

He has benefited from the mess, but it could have been anyone.

Unless there is a movement toward an environment where the truth becomes central to any discussion, and we are are responsible for what we say, post, print, or publish. Then Trump could be the worst of our problems. Mob rule is very un pleasant, and mobs are easily manipulated by those with sinister intent. We got Trump but it could have just as easily been a Soros puppet......

Trump is a narcisstic idiot, but it could be worse, much worse.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I have a suggestion (which will fly right over the heads of most of you ), but unless we see a return to a environment where media of all types have some enforced editorial responsibility, then Trump is just the start of the madness.

So please take your party hats off for one moment and consider the position. Firstly it just so happens that the crazy man is a republican, but his politics are irrelevent to the point I am making. We have the first leader delivered to us in a post FB/twitter world, and it has gone very badly indeed.

So here is my suggestion, everyone has to take responsibilty for what the say, for what they publish, for what they host, and for what they post.

I want an environment where publishing an outright lie will have consequencies, whoever you are, wherever you are.

A newspaper editor has to be able to prove that they had reasonable grounds to believe that a story is true. They will take steps to verify that what they have been told is true before they run a story. If they fail in this they are open to both legal action, and also regulatory action. The same goes for adverts that they print.

So why has this principle been lost online ? Why does FB plough on making enormous sums of money without taking any responsibily for the "news" it distributes. The same applies to twitter, google, youtube etc.
Why can any lying fuck buy a $10 domain, get a cheap host, and create a fake news site ?
Why can any lying fuck declare that his truth is the real truth and the rest is fake.
Why does the mainstream media bother employing journalists and news teams, adhere to common standards, when they are being ridiculed and derided by others with no editorial responsibility whatsoever.

This is not about TRUMP.

He has benefited from the mess, but it could have been anyone.

Unless there is a movement toward an environment where the truth becomes central to any discussion, and we are are responsible for what we say, post, print, or publish. Then Trump could be the worst of our problems. Mob rule is very un pleasant, and mobs are easily manipulated by those with sinister intent. We got Trump but it could have just as easily been a Soros puppet......

Trump is a narcisstic idiot, but it could be worse, much worse.

but nick, after what happend last night in sweden we should think about our position to trump. he knows horrible and important things what NOBODY KNOWS - exept him.

i am sure that drama last night in sweden will be again an explosive argument for trump supporters.

and the fake news media where hiding it again ! what a shame !

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by thommy

but nick, after what happend last night in sweden we should think about our position to trump. he knows horrible and important things what NOBODY KNOWS - exept him.

i am sure that drama last night in sweden will be again an explosive argument for trump supporters.

and the fake news media where hiding it again ! what a shame !

Yes but Trump makes my point for me - if his statement about Sweden is a complete lie he should be accountable.

We ALL should be accountable for what we do and say.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by thommy

maybe exactly that was the mistake and they helped your clown to become the president.
if the voters who did not vote would believe that such a snake COULD win the elections, they would go all to prevent this human catastrophe.

thats not how life works. there was an avalanche of negative press about trump, 100 to 1 hating him. its a free country, people are free to not vote.

you presuming people who dont vote would, because the truth didnt come out, is la la land.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by thommy

you think all media lie - so you better believe in a WELL PROVED liar without comparing news or read international media (what do not have any reason to fake it because it will not bring them more sales). and that proves that you are an idiot.

what do you know about what i read. again, you make presumptions.

makes me LOL when one who makes things up in his head calls others dumb.

[MaDalton]

let's remember that "fake news" last year meant totally fabricated news only to gain clicks and therefore ad revenue

Trump and his gang have successfully diluted the term so that now the general population believes that a professional journalistic medium has the same informational value as some idiot in his basement with one domain and a wordpress blog. If not less.

Examples for this brainwashing can be seen on GFY on a daily basis - also right in this thread.

According to at least one member of the republican party there is only one solution: listen to Trump cause he is the only source for the truth

Now Trump has an unprecedented list of lies within the shortest timeframe - just like mentioned above the thing "that happened last night in Sweden". Nothing happened last night in Sweden but how many of the people in that room will go home and check if really something happened last night in Sweden. And even if they do and find nothing, in their minds it will be because the "evil media" is hiding it from them.

But Trump will protect them from what happend in Sweden and the Bowling Green Massacre and all will be good - just don't question him in his decisions, how absurd they may be.

This is exactly what happened in 1933.

And please note that in no way I am implying that Trump will round up all Muslims and Mexicans next week and start gassing them.

But if there ever was a time to read 1984 or V for Vendetta, then it is now

[thommy]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Yes but Trump makes my point for me - if his statement about Sweden is a complete lie he should be accountable.

We ALL should be accountable for what we do and say.

the Ex-Ministerpresident Bildt from Sweden said "What a hell does he smoke?"

[MaDalton]

What happened in Sweden last night â?? incident in Sweden on Friday, president Trump | Aftonbladet

3:24 PM (local time): A man set himself on fire at Sergels torg, a plaza in central Stockholm. He was taken to the hospital with severe burns. There is so far no information on his motives but the intelligence service is not part of the investigation.

6:42 PM: The famous singer Owe Thörnqvist had some technical problems during rehearsal for the singing competition ?Melodifestivalen?. (However, the 87 year old singer still managed to secure the victory the very next day.)

8:23 PM: A man died in hospital, after an accident in the workplace earlier that day in the city of Borås.

8:46 PM: Due to harsh weather in the northern parts of Sweden the road E10 was closed between Katterjåkk and Riksgränsen. Due to strong winds and snow in the region the Met office also issued an avalanche warning.

12:17 AM: Police officers initiated a chase for a fleeing Peugeot through central parts of the Swedish capital of Stockholm. The pursuit ended in police officers ramming the suspect at Engelbrektsgatan. The driver is now accused of driving under the influence, traffic violation and car theft.

IN LIGHTER NEWS:
11:23 AM: Ok, let?s not be fake news, this story took place in the autumn, but was reported Friday before lunch and we thought you would like it. A wooden moose got the attention of a lovesick moose bull. It all happened in 79 year old Ove Lindqvist?s garden in Byske outside Skellefteå, northern Sweden. ?I thought it was going to start a fight, instead it humped the wooden moose thrice?, he said.

oh the horror...

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by thommy

the Ex-Ministerpresident Bildt from Sweden said "What a hell does he smoke?"

In English: Carl Bildt reacts to Trump'''s attack: ?What did he smoke?? | Aftonbladet

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

thats not how life works. there was an avalanche of negative press about trump, 100 to 1 hating him. its a free country, people are free to not vote.

you presuming people who dont vote would, because the truth didnt come out, is la la land.

what shall i tell you now the truth if you are too ignorant to open your eyes.
so lets wait 1 year and if he is not out before 2018 (what is the bigger possibility) the americans have their next chance - and then THEY WILL GO TO VOTE a new congress and that means "goodbye trump".

but i really think that he will be kicked out before from his own party because some of them are smart enough to see that they will lose the congress majority with this monkey.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by thommy

what shall i tell you now the truth if you are too ignorant to open your eyes.
so lets wait 1 year and if he is not out before 2018 (what is the bigger possibility) the americans have their next chance - and then THEY WILL GO TO VOTE a new congress and that means "goodbye trump".

but i really think that he will be kicked out before from his own party because some of them are smart enough to see that they will lose the congress majority with this monkey.

Nice fantasy you have conjured up there

[thommy]

Originally Posted by StefanG

But if there ever was a time to read 1984 or V for Vendetta, then it is now

it was for many years not in the top 100 but a few weeks ago it was number one and now still is on 6

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-...zon/zgbs/books

so people REALLY worry !

Trump Bump? George Orwell'''s '''1984''' Spiking on Amazon | Money

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Coup

Nice fantasy you have conjured up there

after that is happening i will make an "idiot-list-thread" where you name will be in the top 5.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

These are multi million dollar corporations funded by billionaires and trying to play the victim card

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Look at Huffington Post's front page headline as an example of FAKE NEWS: "Trump readies immigrant crackdown"

That is FAKE NEWS...they are ILLEGAL immigrants

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by thommy

what shall i tell you now the truth if you are too ignorant to open your eyes.
so lets wait 1 year and if he is not out before 2018 (what is the bigger possibility) the americans have their next chance - and then THEY WILL GO TO VOTE a new congress and that means "goodbye trump".

but i really think that he will be kicked out before from his own party because some of them are smart enough to see that they will lose the congress majority with this monkey.

"MONKEY"?! Are you a racist?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by escorpio

"MONKEY"?! Are you a racist?

not at all - i love monkeys as long as they are not presidents

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by NewNick

I have a suggestion (which will fly right over the heads of most of you ), but unless we see a return to a environment where media of all types have some enforced editorial responsibility, then Trump is just the start of the madness.

Trump seems to be the start of people cutting the media out of the loop fully and talking directly to the people without a filter, slant or interpretation. Thats not a terrible thing.

Was watching this below again on Netflix and it reminds us of what the "media" used to be.



Through much of the early episodes, the editor of the nations biggest newspaper is driven by a deep sense of duty to report the truth. To do the right thing. To report all the facts as they are.

The media used to be about facts. About getting all the facts. About a complete story. About investigating. About editorial integrity. About what can and can't be published based on the facts. About ethics. About a moral obligation to society to present all the information. Reporters used to be quasi-detectives and often solved cases before police (financial crimes for example) through their investigating.

In the last 10 years in particular, it feels to me like news is just "info-tainment" and "facts" are a thing of the past and what is more important are narratives, agendas, stirring up or repeating accusations, sensationalism, simply reporting what some idiot said on a twitter post as if it matters etc etc etc.

[Barry-xlovecam]

If you feel threatened by the media.
You have a problem.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by thommy

not at all - i love monkeys as long as they are not presidents

If you love monkeys why would you call a president you don't like a monkey? That makes no sense. It is racist to call a human a monkey.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Trump seems to be the start of people cutting the media out of the loop fully and talking directly to the people without a filter, slant or interpretation. Thats not a terrible thing.

Was watching this below again on Netflix and it reminds us of what the "media" used to be.



Through much of the early episodes, the editor of the nations biggest newspaper is driven by a deep sense of duty to report the truth. To do the right thing. To report all the facts as they are.

The media used to be about facts. About getting all the facts. About a complete story. About investigating. About editorial integrity. About what can and can't be published based on the facts. About ethics. About a moral obligation to society to present all the information. Reporters used to be quasi-detectives and often solved cases before police (financial crimes for example) through their investigating.

In the last 10 years in particular, it feels to me like news is just "info-tainment" and "facts" are a thing of the past and what is more important are narratives, agendas, stirring up or repeating accusations, sensationalism, simply reporting what some idiot said on a twitter post as if it matters etc etc etc.

yes, this is true and the reason is that we have too many of them and everyone needs to make money.

but a true story is not easy to read or understand and we a living in the era of "precooked information" that means that people do not only want to hear the news they also want to hear what they should think about it.

many of this big media have decreased to be headline sellers.
but you do not have to forget one thing, that nearly every journalist of the bigger media has studied and learned also about ethic.
millions of this "new media" including a few 100thousand webmasters who would sell their own mother for 5 bucks did not even hear about ethic.

i usually get my information by watching tv or reading newspapers from different countries and compare them. i can even see a huge difference when i watch german TV or swiss TV.

I will tell you an example:
When that problem in Syria started there was a documentation from the German TV with some of the "rebels". And the rebels talked about freedom and human rights and fighting against dictatorship.

Obviously, this interview they gave was for a bunch of german speaking TV-stations and I saw the absolutely same on Swiss TV. But the camera guy there changed also his position to the car the "rebels" came with and it was plastered with stickers from Al Qaida and ISIS.

I mean just that "little fact" brought another view to the whole situation.

I know it is not easy to find out the truth but if you are REALLY interested in facts and try to get your information from different sources (and international sources are mostly quite good for that) you will be able to be up to date.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by escorpio

If you love monkeys why would you call a president you don't like a monkey? That makes no sense. It is racist to call a human a monkey.

i think it is racist to call him human

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If you feel threatened by the media.
You have a problem.

+1

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Trump seems to be the start of people cutting the media out of the loop fully and talking directly to the people without a filter, slant or interpretation. Thats not a terrible thing.

You're severely misinformed.

Trump lies almost daily on his Twitter and is the perfect example of why we need the pillar of reporting in our society.

You can trust a word that comes out of Trumps mouth because he often contradicts himself in the same sentence.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

These are multi million dollar corporations funded by billionaires and trying to play the victim card

A bit like the Billionaire President of the United States constantly whining about how mean the media are to him ?

How they said his crowd was smaller than Obamas, how the nasty Nordstrom dumped his daughters clothing line, how the nasty Intelligence agencies said mean things about him.

FFS Trump grow a fucking set of balls and get on with it !

[thommy]

Originally Posted by NewNick

A bit like the Billionaire President of the United States constantly whining about how mean the media are to him ?

How they said his crowd was smaller than Obamas, how the nasty Nordstrom dumped his daughters clothing line, how the nasty Intelligence agencies said mean things about him.

FFS Trump grow a fucking set of balls and get on with it !

well not only his enemies say "bad things" about him. even people from his own party:

"That's how dictators get started," McCain told Meet the Press host Chuck Todd in response to a number of comments Trump has made attacking the media, including a series of recent tweets calling the industry "fake news."

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Trump is not a true republican or conservative

Where you been the last 2 yrs?

[romeo22]

fake is new trend of getting more publicity

[thommy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Trump is not a true republican or conservative

Where you been the last 2 yrs?

i know - he is a nazi but i wonder why republican party accepts them

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by thommy

i think it is racist to call him human

Are you calling another human a sub-human? That's what Hitler said about the Jews. Are you a Nazi?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Are you calling another human a sub-human? That's what Hitler said about the Jews. Are you a Nazi?

how can i be a nazi ? my name is not hitler and not trump !

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by thommy

how can i be a nazi ? my name is not hitler and not trump !

Are you a socialist, cucky boy?

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by thommy

how can i be a nazi ? my name is not hitler and not trump !

You're rhetoric is that of a racist Nazi.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Are you a socialist, cucky boy?

no i do not need ideologies or political parties - i am just a REALIST

[thommy]

Originally Posted by escorpio

You're rhetoric is that of a racist Nazi.

oh if you like to hear the perfect nazi rhetoric just listen to trumps next speech and you will hear A LOT of it.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by thommy

oh if you like to hear the perfect nazi rhetoric just listen to trumps next speech and you will hear A LOT of it.

I don't like to hear Nazi rhetoric. You people are a scourge, calling others sub-human.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're severely misinformed.

Trump lies almost daily on his Twitter and is the perfect example of why we need the pillar of reporting in our society.

You can trust a word that comes out of Trumps mouth because he often contradicts himself in the same sentence.

Ok... he lies daily. Thats fine. Lets just say i agree with that, though it's clearly an exaggeration. Him lying has nothing to do with the media lying. Assholes lie. The press is not supposed to lie.

The issue is not whether or not he is honest or not, can be trusted or believed or not. The issue is that the press doesn't report facts, they tell sensationalized stories based on narratives (true or not, supported or not). Thats not what a press is supposed to be doing to achieve what you are stating. They aren't supposed to be biased to the extent that they are these days. They are supposed to be reporting news. They are supposed to be reporting facts. They are supposed to have sources and documents and to be able to substantiate accusations... just just make vague accusations until the new, subsubstatiated narrative takes hold and has a life of its own. Bias is great when its two interpretations of the same facts... bias is not great when its "our team, right or wrong and the end justifies the means" and that "team" has most of the media on their side, which is what we have now.

You like to think i love Trump because its easier to group everything into your "me vs them" bucket. I personally don't care.

I enjoy the circus as a sort of guilty pleasure and i am mostly fascinated by how it's causing people to spin completely out of control.... including the media.

The media is not about investigative reporting anymore and bringing the truth to light.

The media is about telling a story their readers will love and the truth now has little to do with it as facts and truth have been replaced by click bait headlines. How much have we heard about Trump/ Russia without a single "this exact thing was said to this exact person on this exact day"? I am fine with labeling him a traitor when the FACTS are there. I am not fine with perpetuating an unsubstantiated narrative with no FACTS.

You should be concerned. You were being told day in and day out that Trump would never run and loved it. You were being told day and day out that he'd never submit the paperwork and loved it. You were told day and in and day out that he'd never do the financial disclosures and loved it. You were told day in and day out that he'd never get the nomination and loved it. You were told day in and day out that he was behind in polls and loved it. You were told day in and day out that he had no path to victory and loved it. Now he's President and its obviously confusing for people who spent a year being told 24/7 he's a clown that stands no chance with a million different reasons, breakdowns and analysis on why he stands no chance. The media lied to you daily about almost every aspect of the campaign. The media downplayed everything Hillary had going on and spent its time attacking Trump. You didn't get the whole story. You got the story you wanted to hear. Thats great when it's coming from random some jerkoffs blog... its truly horrible when its coming from CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC etc etc etc etc etc.

Hating Trump is fine. Picking on his appearance and mannerisms and stupid shit he says is all fair game to me.

But ignoring the fact that our media is completely failing us on every possible level when it comes to reporting facts and reporting with honesty and integrity is not, in my view.

A reporters response to his continual reporting of fake facts "thats like calling me the N Word". How nice. No apology. No "Yeah, there's a problem". Even Brian Williams, fired for creating fake news stories is weighing in on honesty in the media and talking like there isn't an issue. Its absurd.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Journalism is dead in this day and age

These are multi million dollar "news" companies owned by globalist billionaires who have an agenda