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Old 01-24-2017, 12:53 PM   #1
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Need advice: Sell clips or do full membership site?

I've been filming some adult content and can't decide whether or not to sell it on a clips site like Clips4Sale or just start a regular membership site. Would love some opinions from you folks. Here are the pros and cons I have so far.

Clips Site Pros:
  • Next to nothing startup costs
  • C4S has a large user base so good exposure
  • Good way to test site concept and if successful convert it into a paysite.

Clips Site Cons:
  • Need to give up large percentage of profits so it will take longer to break even and make money.

Paysite Pros:
  • Able to keep more of the income... unless I do an affiliate program.
  • Affiliate program would help get the word out quick about the site.
  • Good if I want to build a long-term brand.

Paysite Cons:
  • Startup costs of probably at least $10K (CMS software, hosting, bill processing, etc.)
  • Big gamble... could do a site that bombs.


On the surface it seems like a clips site strategy would be lower risk but the paysite option has the potential for bigger rewards. What do you guys think? Am I forgetting any pros/cons?
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Old 01-24-2017, 01:28 PM   #2
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start with clips, build bank, goto paysite
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Old 01-24-2017, 02:46 PM   #3
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start with clips, build bank, goto paysite
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:29 PM   #4
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It is definitely less time consuming to sell clips on sites such as clips4sale. Check out this thread:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...lips4sale.html
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Old 01-24-2017, 09:00 PM   #5
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we added the ppv option to our cms about 5 years ago. we've had a lot of clients try it out with mixed results. after a lot of research and stats, i came to a final conclusion about ppv/clip stores.

Selling clips will always be harder than selling subscriptions. Clips can't compare in value for dollar. The only way to raise the value of a clip is to increase scarcity. Rare fetish clips are the only things that sell.

rare fetish is why clips4sale succeeds. we have a couple ppv fetish stores doing well, but 9 out of 10 fail. if you want to do clips, start out on clips4sale as Jerkules recommended. their revenue share sucks, but its a good place to launch your brand.

by the way, your startup cost for a paysite is not $10k+. this is a fallacy spread around by the cms crews that want to take u for $10k+. PornCMS is $29/month and includes everything u need to get started (other than billing).

you can send the other $9,971 to your favorite charity (or hooker).

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Old 01-26-2017, 01:02 AM   #6
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You should also be looking at content partnership programs on tubes. You get revshare when your videos are viewed, and your videos get a link to your clipstore or paysite. So you get paid, and also get some free traffic. win-win.

I would obviously start with a clipstore. So much easier to get started. Plus no one wants to pay for your shit paysite when brazzers exists. But people will pay for your clips on c4s if they're good.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:46 PM   #7
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by the way, your startup cost for a paysite is not $10k+. this is a fallacy spread around by the cms crews that want to take u for $10k+. PornCMS is $29/month and includes everything u need to get started (other than billing).
Thanks for that info. I was including things like MC/Visa setup ($1,000 a year I think), legal fees, marketing, etc. in my $10K estimate but maybe I overshot this too much.

If I can start a paysite for a few grand that's a much easier risk to live with than $10K.

Also, just to clarify, my content isn't really in a unique fetish so it sounds like it would get lost on a clips site.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!
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Old 02-24-2017, 05:01 PM   #8
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Yeah. You always want to have small projects with fast turnaround as plan A. Then slowly work on the big long-term projects on the side. So both.
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