dubs

I can confirm and others as well that chaturbate mobile does not save your cookie, how the f*ck can they mess something so big up?

AllAboutCams

Have you sent support an email?

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dubs

yes still no reply in 48 hours, I feel ignored and to be honest they probably have no answer so they just ignore it

Andreweb

That sucks

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magneto664

As I wrote in other post, I fund this e-mail from support :

OCT 16, 2016 at 09:38AM PDT

Dear magneto664,

The affiliate program is not optimized for mobile yet
Thanks,
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dubs

I cannot believe I wasted so much time sending mobile traffic, very shitty

j3rkules

They need to optimize it for mobile asap.

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mechanicvirus

I guess keep sending hits anyway because ???????

xxx6live

Wtf? Over 50% of the traffic i send there is mobile, 1000 uniques a day. So do you say it is not tagged with my affiliaye code?

dubs

Yes that is correct and you probably are seeing low registrations because of this

Thor_N

... everyone wants to fuck someone ;(

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BigFurry

This is crazy if true, and not just a misunderstanding.

Cookies work the same on mobile browsers as on PCs. If this is true, they actually had to write EXTRA LINES OF CODE intentionally to prevent cookies to be stored on mobiles.

Which is called SHAVING.

And as others pointed out about the percentage of mobile traffic these days, it could be 50%.

cybermike

Pretty big oversight if true :\

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drexl

The hits are recorded in the stats before redirecting to mobile cb where no cookie is saved.

I wonder if there's anyway to retroactively re-attach customers to affiliates, at least those who still have the cookie on the main domain.

Also, the following shows a custom 404 with a link to m.chaturbate.com (with no aff ID)
For those guys here who say "if true"
Try it for yourself: in Chrome open the Developer Tools, enter Mobile mode, navigate to your affiliate link, go to Application > Cookies to see what has been saved.

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Zeiss

Then don't promote it. They even have traffic leaks (banners) on their site. Screw it. Try BongaCash instead. Their website and whitelabels are translated in many languages, geo targeted, accepting various payment methods, even local ones. They even let you place your own banners from EroAdvertising, JuicyAds, ITMCash or even to upload your own banners and point an url for them. Good luck!

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drexl

or simply remove the line of code that prevents the cookie from being saved.

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Thor_N

They probably will do nothing with it ;(

BigFurry

Ok well, if cookies are set after the redirect, they didn't remove lines of code. They just haven't added the code to place cookies to the mobile backend.

Regardless, this is not wizardry, it's a simple thing. They can use the same code for storing the cookies on the mobile site as on desktops.

They should not have launched a mobile version at all without that there.

incredibleworkethic

Bump for justice, or pressure to get this going.

TitanWM

bongacash has a very bad rebill quote. Paying customers disappear after few month.

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biiiglia

Is all mobile traffic redirected to the mobile version of chaturbate? I just got a new US registration on a mobile device, registered today and spent 125.98$ of tokens.

drexl

What link was used or was it an embed iframe? The latter doesn't redirect to the mobile subdomain.

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razor33

I guess it depends on the device. I don't use/have a smartphone, but i do have a tablet, which is a mobile device too. Most sites (Chaturbate included) show the desktop version on tablets and not the mobile version.

I promote white labels on my own domains, this cookie issue doesn't seem to apply there, because there's no redirection in that case for sure.

biiiglia

A link. Tour name "Your Chat Room (homepage if you're offline)".
I use a different tracking id for mobile devices. A tablet is a mobile device for me.

razor33

Yes and i think for everyone else , but that does not matter as long as sites (Chaturbate included) treat them as if they were desktop and don't do mobile redirect. I'm speaking from experience. I'm using a tablet for more than 2 years now and it's quite rare that a site would redirect to the mobile version, desktop version is the default for the most part and it's just a 8" tablet.

Most mobile devices aren't tablets, so it's not the solution. It's just that you don't lose the tablet signups at least.

Do you know the type of the mobile device? That might get you closer to the reason.

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ody

I think there's a misunderstood here... I'm sending mobile traffic and I'm getting registered users and sales too. What is not ready for affiliates yet is the mobile version of the website, but if you send mobile traffic you will get your sales

BigFurry

There is no contradiction here. When you first send a visitor, they are able to keep track without cookies. For instance in the server side session data, or by always keeping the affiliate ID in the url parameters. (I haven't checked.)

However. If the guy closes his browser, and opens it a few hours later, and types in "www.chaturbate.com", they won't be able to tie him to you unless there is a cookie saved in his browser.

ody

OK, I got you... And why don't promote whitelabel instead of chaturbate directly? You will be sure the user will sign up under your ID with whitelabel

drexl

go to your whitelabel, scroll all the way down.

there is a link "powered by ..."

hover over it to check the campaign ID (which is your affiliate ID)

this ID isn't mine.

EDIT: now I think about it, it could be that we all have 1 campaign ID per domain. so the campaign ID is not the affiliate ID. It is a one to many relationshop

Sorry for the confusion. I'm off to bed ...

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skraffix

Does molbile register for an api site?

deonbell

Sometimes white labels hang. I notice they are slower and there are less girls, some girls choose not to be on white labels.

Plus chaturbate is all over the white labels. It is on the video in the upper right hand corner. People quickly realize they are on chaturbate instead of the white label.

Which is fine, if you get to retain the revshare when the customer switches over to the main site. But who knows if this is the case?

If you are making any money, continue with what you are doing. But you should go mainstream. Where you can control your inventory and income streams. Become as vertically integrated as you can get. Lost the middle man hat. Make others depend on you.

Chaturbate is pinned at the top of all the get rich quick sites now. They are losing their need for salesmen.

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pornuploader

since ten days ago my sign ups suddenly dropped as well

drexl

What you say makes sense to me, but then when I look at Joker's stats (who uses whitelabels from what he said) I'm kinda confused.

Also, if mobile traffic is lost when using the promo tools' links, isn't the best bet to use the wl?

At the end of the day it boils down to who wins the cookie: does anyone know how this really works? I received an email from support saying that if a user goes to my wl then signs up on to cb he is gonna be mine, but since cookies are domain based I don't see how that's done.

Similarly, when a user goes to the default affiliate link, a cookie is saved against chaturbate.com, a visit is counted in the dashboard and then there is a 302 redirect to m.chaturbate.com where no cookie seems to be saved: how do they bind the affiliate to the customer?

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biiiglia

I tried to inject an affiliate cookie with a 1x1 iframe to my own room. Then you can use the promo tools links where visitors can click on and redirect to the mobile version of chaturbate. But it doesn't seem to work. It only works when visitors navigate back to the desktop version of chaturbate.

DDUK

So I signed up on my phone, made sure I went straight to my site and followed my link with campaign ID and Tracker ID set and guess what?

It didn't show in my stats....

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dubs

So it's safe to say chaturbate is shaving mobile signups
This needs to be stopped and brought to there attention by everybody effected, I have sent many emails with no reply back

drexl

There are Chaturbate folks on gfy, it would be nice to have one of them chime in on this.

I am not sure "mobile is not supported for affiliates yet" is an acceptable answer. Either it is not ready and you don't take the traffic from affiliates or it is ready and then you pay the commissions.

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Bump for an answer

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Andreweb

This is a big issue since almost 60% of all traffic is coming from mobile devices

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DDUK

Andrew have you done a test signup yourself bud?

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drexl

There are several things to look at:

- the 'affKey' cookie is not there on m.chaturbate.com. It is easy to verify (no technical skills needed) so take a minute of your time to try this on Chrome browser: javascript - Check Cookies using Chrome - Stack Overflow

- if you change the domain of the affiliate link it states the link is broken:
https://m.chaturbate.com/affiliates/...0&campaign=xxx

- if you use the standard link a simple traceroute shows a redirect to m.chaturbate.com (without passing parameters). Remember by default subdomains are treated as entirely separate domains as far as cookies are concerned so when the cookie is planted on the main domain (and thus counts a visit in your dashboard), it is not there for m.chaturbate.com
https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in...0&campaign=xxx

- support tells you that mobile is not supported for affiliates

- another indication is the sudden drop in signups back in around october 2016. This was observed by many. I don't know exactly when the mobile version was set up. This drop was certainly reflected as a proportionally high spike for chaturbate since they were receiving the same amount of traffic but didnt have to send back shared commissions on mobile.

- if you want to do a test, don't forget to clear cookies before going through your affiliate link. Then observe which cookies are created on the final landing page m.chaturbate.com
(affKey is missing).

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I'm going to redirect all my mobile traffic to another offer until chaturbate mobile is out of beta.

AllAboutCams

Did CB support say that?

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drexl

see below:

"Mobile affiliates link are not active yet since the mobile site is still in beta. This is why the link you created is not working. We will announce the release of our full mobile site and affiliate links once it's completed.

Thank you,
Support"

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biiiglia

- It's possible to promote Chaturbate offer (CPA - SOI) with Crakrevenue ... but only with desktop traffic. There must be a reason.

sarettah

I had not posted this before because every time I tried to recreate what you guys were talking about I got mixed results.

I didn't know if I was really testing it properly or not.

But tonight I went in and did a bunch of tests and all I can say is that either something has changed or you guys are wrong or I am testing it improperly or any/all of the above. lol.

I recorded what I did. It is in 2 gifs. The exort function for screencastify limits the size of the gif so it might be hard to read in places. You can increase the browser zoom a bit though and read it.

In the first gif. I clear cookies. I go into device emulation mode for Iphone 6. I go to one of my urls (taken directly from the tools in the chaturbate affiliate area). It does not look to me as if it does a mobile redirect, btw. I then close that by going back to google (home page) and then shut down the emulation mode and go look at cookies and the cookies, including the affkey are all there.




For the second test, I clear cookies. I go into device emulation mode for Iphone 6. I go to a modified version of my url (where I changed it to m.chaturbate.com). At the bottom of this one I show the source panel so we can see it is indeed m.chaturbate.com. I then go back to the home page. Shut down the emulation mode and go in to look at cookies and there are cookies for m.chaturbate.com including the affkey cookie. In this one there is NOT an affkey cookie for chauturbate (without the m.) but there is one there for the mobile version (m,.)

So, what am I doing wrong or did they fix it and I am in after the fix here?



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DDUK

Here's my steps.

1. I went to my own website where I was sure I had the campaign= & the track= set so I'd know for sure it was me.
2. Followed the link and arrived at the full Chaturbate site not the mobile version as I expected to see.
3. Created an account on said full version.
4. Verified the email they sent
5. Upon clicking the verification email I was then diverted to the new Beta Mobile version of the site.
6. Checked my stats and nothing!

Maybe I did something wrong. I'll get wife's phone later and try again.

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sarettah

I don't know how long you waited for the sign up to show but it is not an instant thing.

My testing shows it taking at least 15 minutes to 30 minutes before a sign up shows. That is based on my testing using unique tracking ids so I can id my tests accurately.

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drexl

Now we're talking.

Your test is good but it doesn't trigger a redirect. Either switch the device emulation to Galaxy S5 or send the cb url to a real mobile phone.
My phone is an Android based phone, when I send the standard chaturbate affiliate link to it, I land on m.chaturbate.com

Now let's see a traceroute of what is happening:


The cookie is saved on chaturbate.com (BING: visit +1 in the dashboard) but the customer is gonna eventually register on m.chaturbate.com (free registration remains at 0)
And here are the comprehensive list of cookies for m.chaturbate.com


no affkey!

I don't understand how you managed to save a cookie on m.chaturbate.com and one reason for the various results we're getting could be A/B testing (some gets served a different version of a page).

Regardless: my demonstration coupled with the fact that Support themselves said the affiliate link was not yet implemented is evidence we are repaying someone else's mortgage at full speed while spending our days working for peanuts.

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