?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness & ego - GoFuckYourself.com

Bladewire · 02-26-2017, 12:43 PM

Does the father deserve an investigation into his sons death? I think he deserbmved that. What do you think?

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The father of a Navy SEAL killed during a mission that Donald Trump approved just a week into his administration blames the president for his son?s death.

William Owens told The Miami Herald that he refused to meet with Trump when the remains of son, William ?Ryan? Owens, were returned to Dover Air Force Base.

Owens questioned Trump?s motivation for signing off on a mission just six days into his presidency.

?Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn?t even barely a week into his administration? Why?? he asked. ?For two years prior, there were no boots on the ground in Yemen ? everything was missiles and drones ? because there was not a target worth one American life. Now, all of a sudden we had to make this grand display??

Although U.S. military officials told The New York Times that ?everything went wrong? during the mission, the Trump administration has called the operation a success. Administration officials have claimed that an investigation would tarnish the memory Owen?s son, but the father disagrees.

?Don?t hide behind my son?s death to prevent an investigation,? he remarked. ?I want an investigation. ? The government owes my son an investigation.?

?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness and ego for son?s death

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-26-2017, 12:45 PM

Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

bronco67 · 02-26-2017, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

Have you served your country in the military, Mr Big Swinging Dick? I have.

Joshua G · 02-26-2017, 01:02 PM

nice to see "democrats" making conclusions on a mission that was done in secret, as if you "democrats" know what information was being passed to trump...and that he made the decision over a steak dinner?

you guys just make shit up on the fly, don't you.

"democrats"

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-26-2017, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

Have you served your country in the military, Mr Big Swinging Dick? I have.

I serve my country each and every day

I can tell you what, if I was overseas, I would NEVER come back in a body bag and if I did...there'd be a whole town taken out

With that said, when you train to be a Navy Seal, you know that with each and every mission you may not come back alive.

bronco67 · 02-26-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I serve my country each and every day

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Oh really? How do you do that?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-26-2017, 01:11 PM

Also, it's not "service" if you get paid

pimpmaster9000 · 02-26-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I serve my country each and every day

I can tell you what, if I was overseas, I would NEVER come back in a body bag and if I did...there'd be a whole town taken out

With that said, when you train to be a Navy Seal, you know that with each and every mission you may not come back alive.

Lolocopter...

beerptrol · 02-26-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Oh really? How do you do that?

He blows Trump

crockett · 02-26-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Oh really? How do you do that?

He believes trolling on the internet is serving his country. I guess if he's a paid Putin bot then he might be right!

Bladewire · 02-26-2017, 02:17 PM

I think when the Whitehouse lies regarding the circumstances of a Navy Seals death, the family of the fallen, and the public, deserve an investigation to find out the whole truth.

Rochard · 02-26-2017, 08:12 PM

There is no need for an investigation at all. We know exactly how and when he died; He died while serving his country. I am sure there is an after action report that gives the exact details. There is no reason to believe anything was done wrong here and it's pretty straight forward - They sent our military in to accomplish a task, and sometimes when our military goes to war we suffer casualties.

You could try to argue Trump was unqualified for unprepared and made a bad call, and while I believe both are true... At the end of the day for better or worse when our military gets the order they do their job, and sometimes people die.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-26-2017, 08:16 PM

Plus it was probably a top secret mission

It's like signing up for the swim team and complaining that your shorts got wet

Paul Markham · 02-27-2017, 03:16 AM

would it warrant an investigation if Hillary had won?

pimpmaster9000 · 02-27-2017, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

He died while serving his country. .

bullshit alert...the USA is in no danger whatsoever, your army is there for the sole purpose of attacking countries that disagree with your crony government..."serving his country" = could not get a normal job so he turned USIS mercenary...

0 <----- number of people who would "serve their country" if it was not paid $$$

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-27-2017, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

would it warrant an investigation if Hillary had won?

No.......

Barry-xlovecam · 02-27-2017, 06:44 AM

The is no investigation needed. That operation was an abortion from day 1.
Poorly conceived for public relations by the Trump White House.

Nothing was gained

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-27-2017, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The is no investigation needed. That operation was an abortion from day 1.
Poorly conceived for public relations by the Trump White House.

Nothing was gained

You haven't a clue about the operation

Horatio Caine · 02-27-2017, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

When you join embassy staff in Benghazi and live in a fucking compound you also know the risks. But, that doesn't stopped right wings nuts from launching 47 investigations into it.

directfiesta · 02-27-2017, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

I serve my country each and every day

Robbie · 02-27-2017, 08:47 AM

As much money as the Federal Govt. wastes...I don't see why they can't humor an old man who lost his son.

Bring him in, sit down and talk to him and show him what happened, how it happened, and why it happened.

The man should be proud of his son and not caught up in this media circus with no closure.

directfiesta · 02-27-2017, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

When you join embassy staff in Benghazi and live in a fucking compound you also know the risks. But, that doesn't stopped right wings nuts from launching 47 investigations into it.

... aside from being a CIA outpost and running weapons to "so-called" rebels .....

That was scrutinized and multi-investigated, while all previous attacks on embassies,conulates and missions were not ...

There is a need for YEMENGAZI !

Robbie · 02-27-2017, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

... aside from being a CIA outpost and running weapons to "so-called" rebels .....

That was scrutinized and multi-investigated, while all previous attacks on embassies,conulates and missions were not ...

There is a need for YEMENGAZI !

I agree.

EVERYTHING our govt. is doing in these "wars", that have never been legally declared by Congress, should be investigated.

The only thing I worry about is that Congress is such a sorry ass collection of public leeches living off the taxpayer teat...that they don't have the ability to multi-task.

I want to see real change happening in Washington. I want them to be able to investigate everything they can...that's part of their job is oversight.
And at the same time I want them to get their ass moving on a replacement for ObamaCare that will work.
And on tax reform (finally)
And immigration reform that makes it easier for qualified people to gain citizenship instead of taking decades to do it.

I don't have much faith in Congress though.

crockett · 02-27-2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

As much money as the Federal Govt. wastes...I don't see why they can't humor an old man who lost his son.

Bring him in, sit down and talk to him and show him what happened, how it happened, and why it happened.

The man should be proud of his son and not caught up in this media circus with no closure.

You mean like you weren't caught up in the circus about Benghazi? I remember arguing with you about Benghazi and how you absolutely knew 100% there was a stand down order and Hillary was guilty. I remember how you would never admit you were wrong about that and still tried to argue it again in another topic after you were proven wrong.

Very odd, how you don't seem to think Trump has done anything wrong but everything Hillary or Obama did was wrong.

Matt 26z · 02-27-2017, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

The real story here is that the targets appeared to know the US was coming for them (and that's not my speculation. those involved have said as much to the media). Someone from within the government may have leaked the plans to the bad guys. I would guess it was an Obama loyalist working (possibly with a group) to undermine Trump's presidency.

Bladewire · 02-27-2017, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

Why are you lying?

US Navy SEAL killed, 3 injured in raid on Al Qaeda in Yemen | Fox News

"A U.S. official told Fox News planing for the operation began before Trump assumed office, but had not been given the green light."

Father of US Navy SEAL killed in Yemen raid demands probe, slams Trump | Fox News

"The White House says the raid was planned during the Obama administration, but the former president's aides have said he hadn't given the go-ahead because it would have been an escalation of U.S. involvement in the war-torn and destitute Arab country."

Rochard · 02-27-2017, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You mean like you weren't caught up in the circus about Benghazi? I remember arguing with you about Benghazi and how you absolutely knew 100% there was a stand down order and Hillary was guilty. I remember how you would never admit you were wrong about that and still tried to argue it again in another topic after you were proven wrong.

Very odd, how you don't seem to think Drumpf has done anything wrong but everything Hillary or Obama did was wrong.

Benghazi. What fucking bullshit that was. Let's investigate that again. Absolutely nothing was done wrong by anyone yet we had to investigate it nine times? Nothing but a political witch hunt.

crockett · 02-27-2017, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

The real story here is that the targets appeared to know the US was coming for them (and that's not my speculation. those involved have said as much to the media). Someone from within the government may have leaked the plans to the bad guys. I would guess it was an Obama loyalist working (possibly with a group) to undermine Trump's presidency.

No it wasn't. Yes they wanted a moonlight night, but it was also on hold by Obama due to wanting more intel. There was not a go ahead from Obama on the next moon lit night it was on hold due to lack of intel.

Obama may or may not have run the operation on the next moon lit night, but it's certainly wasn't given the prior go ahead.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-27-2017, 12:13 PM

More lies

FAKE NEWS

It was Obumma's mission

Fucking people can't report the truth if your life depended on it

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-27-2017, 12:20 PM

Your son got killed by a haji...but we need to let more of them into this country...because racism!

02-26-2017, 12:43 PM	#1
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness & ego Does the father deserve an investigation into his sons death? I think he deserbmved that. What do you think? ---- The father of a Navy SEAL killed during a mission that Donald Trump approved just a week into his administration blames the president for his son?s death. William Owens told The Miami Herald that he refused to meet with Trump when the remains of son, William ?Ryan? Owens, were returned to Dover Air Force Base. Owens questioned Trump?s motivation for signing off on a mission just six days into his presidency. ?Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn?t even barely a week into his administration? Why?? he asked. ?For two years prior, there were no boots on the ground in Yemen ? everything was missiles and drones ? because there was not a target worth one American life. Now, all of a sudden we had to make this grand display?? Although U.S. military officials told The New York Times that ?everything went wrong? during the mission, the Trump administration has called the operation a success. Administration officials have claimed that an investigation would tarnish the memory Owen?s son, but the father disagrees. ?Don?t hide behind my son?s death to prevent an investigation,? he remarked. ?I want an investigation. ? The government owes my son an investigation.? ?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness and ego for son?s death

02-26-2017, 08:12 PM	#12
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 72,780	There is no need for an investigation at all. We know exactly how and when he died; He died while serving his country. I am sure there is an after action report that gives the exact details. There is no reason to believe anything was done wrong here and it's pretty straight forward - They sent our military in to accomplish a task, and sometimes when our military goes to war we suffer casualties. You could try to argue Trump was unqualified for unprepared and made a bad call, and while I believe both are true... At the end of the day for better or worse when our military gets the order they do their job, and sometimes people die. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	would it warrant an investigation if Hillary had won? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	As much money as the Federal Govt. wastes...I don't see why they can't humor an old man who lost his son. Bring him in, sit down and talk to him and show him what happened, how it happened, and why it happened. The man should be proud of his son and not caught up in this media circus with no closure. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	Nope... When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

02-26-2017, 01:02 PM	#4
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	nice to see "democrats" making conclusions on a mission that was done in secret, as if you "democrats" know what information was being passed to trump...and that he made the decision over a steak dinner? you guys just make shit up on the fly, don't you. "democrats"

02-26-2017, 01:11 PM	#7
JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	Also, it's not "service" if you get paid

02-26-2017, 02:17 PM	#11
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	I think when the Whitehouse lies regarding the circumstances of a Navy Seals death, the family of the fallen, and the public, deserve an investigation to find out the whole truth.

02-26-2017, 08:16 PM	#13
JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	Plus it was probably a top secret mission It's like signing up for the swim team and complaining that your shorts got wet

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	The is no investigation needed. That operation was an abortion from day 1. Poorly conceived for public relations by the Trump White House. Nothing was gained

02-27-2017, 12:13 PM	#29
JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	More lies FAKE NEWS It was Obumma's mission Fucking people can't report the truth if your life depended on it

02-27-2017, 12:20 PM	#30
JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE Trump! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rent free in Bladewire's head Posts: 6,442	Your son got killed by a haji...but we need to let more of them into this country...because racism!