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KC · 04-14-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

What makes the party for me when everybody is out having a good time without punk ass motherfuckers trying to force bullshit rules that infringe on personal liberty.

YEAH!! Especially because Lung Cancer is sooooo in right now. All the cool kids have it!

MissEve · 04-14-2003, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup

What makes the party for me when everybody is out having a good time without punk ass motherfuckers trying to force bullshit rules that infringe on personal liberty.

Do you have a mullet?

GotGauge · 04-14-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

And they should be free to smoke in a bar as well. No one in a bar is there with a gun to their head. Perhaps a child care center with children who have no choice but to be there should be an exception, but a bar is a place one goes to voluntarily and even to some extent works in voluntarily.

Let bars who want nonsmoking customers be free to forbid smoking then folks who want to avoid smoke can go there and both you and the smokers can be happy.

You, like a lot of antismokers, can't be happy with liberty. You have to control other people.

No, it is You who controlls me, by making me inhale Your smoke.
So, we who don't smoke have to lead boring lives, stay at home?
My Partner was a bouncer in California, before and after the laws
were set inplace for no public smoking. The crowd died down for a few weeks, but then the club was again packed, full of people.

I bet, it was still smokers, who smoked a pack in the car, before going in to the club, but hey most people get drunk before they go to the club also.

I am all for the 2 level clubs where the top level is open to the outside or something, and thats where the smokers can go.

There was a club in Germany, that every hour, big openings in the roof would open and fans would suck the smoke out.
This also worked quite well.

Everyone might as well face it, all public places will be smoke free someday.

Oh, and just so you know, my wife Smokes....

GotGauge · 04-14-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by iwantchixx

Give me a fucking break... "fighting for breath." It's not like you have a fucking exhaust pipe stuffed down your throat with a 12 cylinder engine pumping nothing but toxic fumes into your lungs.

Truth be told you would get the same toxic fumes and smoke by walking downtown on a saturday night when all the ricer boys are out playing on the streets. Or you would get the same toxicity by riding a motorcycle behind another car

BAN RICE MOBILES! (I'd actualy like to see that law passed but for other reasons)

BAN ALL CARS DRIVING IN FRONT OF A MOTORCYCLIST....

Might be true about the same amount of toxins.
but walking downtown doesn't make me cough, or my eyes water,
Stink like smoke in the morning, and so on.

jimmyf · 04-14-2003, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

The fact remains that in the sense of liberty most people find meaningful, a ban on smokers limits people's freedom more directly an onerously than allowing people to choose not to attend events where there might be tobacco smoke or perfume.

perfume bothers me a lot, I mean tears starts rolling, I have to get out of the area. I mean it bothers me bad. I don't think they should ban it though, I just leave. I tell women when I meet them, I can't go out with' em if they wear it. Not all perfume's bother this bad, just most. And I know very few people
would ever think it a problem for some people. I god dam sure wouldn't tell someone they have invaded my AIR SPACE. Fucking dip shits. Some people have Zero class, and yes that's what it is LACK of class. PERIOD.....

UnseenWorld · 04-14-2003, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by GotGauge

No, it is You who controlls me, by making me inhale Your smoke.
So, we who don't smoke have to lead boring lives, stay at home?
My Partner was a bouncer in California, before and after the laws
were set inplace for no public smoking. The crowd died down for a few weeks, but then the club was again packed, full of people.

I bet, it was still smokers, who smoked a pack in the car, before going in to the club, but hey most people get drunk before they go to the club also.

I am all for the 2 level clubs where the top level is open to the outside or something, and thats where the smokers can go.

There was a club in Germany, that every hour, big openings in the roof would open and fans would suck the smoke out.
This also worked quite well.

Everyone might as well face it, all public places will be smoke free someday.

Oh, and just so you know, my wife Smokes....

Well, I am all for club owners being able to decide whether it's a smoking or non-smoking club, or a fragrance-free club. Like I said before, no one puts a gun to your head and forces you to go to a club, and I don't see why your self-centered desire to be in a smoke-free environment should trump those who don't give a flying fuck or actually WANT a smoky environment.

If your wife smokes, that may explain your hostility, but don't take your marital frustrations out on the rest of the world.

I guess my argument regarding fragrances was too telling for you to comment on, eh?

BTW, I'm a non-smoker and I think the smoke is part of the atmosphere of a club.

jimmyf · 04-14-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by MissEve

I have NEVER come home after a night at a bar and had someones shitty perfume permeate my clothes, hair and contacts like the disgusting smell of smoke.

I bet your one of those people that wear shitty perfume. YOU should quit wearing it right now. It bothers some people. And it bothers them a lot. Why should you plot your fat ass down next to me and I have to leave because of you're shitty perfume, as I'm caughing all the way out the fucking door, so I can get my breath.

you don't think your perfume doesn't get on my clothes and hair, shit I can smell it on my body, I have to shower when I get home.

bhutocracy · 04-14-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I bet your one of those people that wear shitty perfume. YOU should quit wearing it right now. It bothers some people. And it bothers them a lot. Why should you plot your fat ass down next to me and I have to leave because of you're shitty perfume, as I'm caughing all the way out the fucking door, so I can get my breath. you don't think your perfume doesn't get on my clothes and hair, shit I can smell it on my body, I have to shower when I get home.

what were you saying about a lack of class?

bhutocracy · 04-14-2003, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

I don't see why your self-centered desire to be in a smoke-free environment should trump those who don't give a flying fuck or actually WANT a smoky environment.

as opposed to a self centred desire to foist the by products of their addiction onto other people? c'mon the name calling can more than easily go both ways.

split levels and open air areas are a good idea.. I definately think there should be a compromise.

jimmyf · 04-14-2003, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

what were you saying about a lack of class?

MissEve · 04-14-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
I bet your one of those people that wear shitty perfume. YOU should quit wearing it right now. It bothers some people. And it bothers them a lot. Why should you plot your fat ass down next to me and I have to leave because of you're shitty perfume, as I'm caughing all the way out the fucking door, so I can get my breath. you don't think your perfume doesn't get on my clothes and hair, shit I can smell it on my body, I have to shower when I get home.

Hey smarty, we are talking about smoking in public places not about your super sensitivity to perfume. Shitty perfume is relative, you may think mine sucks but really isnt the issue. Are you really more sensitive to perfume than to smoke??!!

tucker · 04-14-2003, 07:14 PM

See what happens when you try and quit smoking or better yet, try and stop a smoker from smoking.

OOPS

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UnseenWorld · 04-14-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

as opposed to a self centred desire to foist the by products of their addiction onto other people? c'mon the name calling can more than easily go both ways.

split levels and open air areas are a good idea.. I definately think there should be a compromise.

I wrote "I don't see why your self-centered desire to be in a smoke-free environment should trump those who don't give a flying fuck or actually WANT a smoky environment."

Quite frankly, I don't see any names in there, whether they be formal names like "Bill" or "Mary Smith" or epithets like "asshole" or "ignoramus." Since when did merely presenting an argument mean one was calling someone a name?

Smokers just smoke, they don't "desire to foist the by products of their addiction onto other people" anymore than when you buy a six-pack of Bud you are intentionally supporting an industry that has millions of people addicted.

And as for split-level clubs, a split-level club is a great idea if the club owner thinks it's a great idea. The government needs to butt out (no pun intended).

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