Julian Assange & Wikileaks has lost all credibility

[Bladewire]

I don't trust Wikileaks/Assange anymore and here's why:


1) Assange lied about not being against the Democrats then visiting his site you saw all the hate Democrats political cartoons.

He lied

2) Assange is paid by Putin and had a show on Russia Today government network.

He's a paid puppet now

3) In the beginning of January Assange tweeted "If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ case " 5 says later Obama granted Manning clemency. The next day Assange changed his mind.

He goes back on his word

4) He's been mooching off the Ecuadorian people for 5 years at the embassy to avoid facing rape charges in Sweden.

He's not brave

5) Assange is just a middleman spokesman for the hard working hackers & informants of the world but acts like he does all the hard work. He doesn't.

He's power & ego driven now, he wasn't that way before.

[Smack dat]

It doesn't matter if you like or trust him or not. This isn't about Assange. It was never about Assange. As you correctly pointed out he is just a middleman.

[crockett]

I was a long time supporter of Wikileaks but when he made a point to claim the Russian govt didn't give him the emails, it became extremely obvious he was mettling in the election.

Assange, did what no other govt managed to do and that was make winkileaks lose all credibility.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Where did he lie about being against the democrats? he is not associated with any party. We all know how corrupt the Clintons are

Proof that he is being paid by Putin please

Just because you don't like Assange doesn't change the fact that facts are facts

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by crockett

I was a long time supporter of Wikileaks but when he made a point to claim the Russian govt didn't give him the emails, it became extremely obvious he was mettling in the election.

Assange, did what no other govt managed to do and that was make winkileaks lose all credibility.

So you liked him when he was going after the other side, releasing info on Bush and the Repubs but now that he is proving Trump to be right by releasing truthful info, you hate him

Typical sheep moron cuck!

He doesn't work for the russian government. Jesus christ, not everyone who wants fucking globalism and the deep state taking over our lives works for the russians

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

It doesn't matter if you like or trust him or not. This isn't about Assange. It was never about Assange. As you correctly pointed out he is just a middleman.

Wikileaks needs a new frontman to regain credibility. The personal drama & ego of Assange is impacting the movement and integrity of data being released.

As long as Assange is the frontman, and all Wikileaks only target America, their integrity is tainted.

[Smack dat]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Wikileaks needs a new frontman to regain credibility. The personal drama & ego of Assange is impacting the movement and integrity of data being released.

As long as Assange is the frontman, and all Wikileaks only target America, their integrity is tainted.

They target America because they are the most corrupt nation. Topple America and the rest will come crumbling down.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Wikileaks needs a new frontman to regain credibility. The personal drama & ego of Assange is impacting the movement and integrity of data being released.

As long as Assange is the frontman, and all Wikileaks only target America, their integrity is tainted.

They have confirmed it's credible

How is Assange corrupt and a liar? Because he proved that the dems and Hillary were corrupt and liars?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

I was a long time supporter of Wikileaks but when he made a point to claim the Russian govt didn't give him the emails, it became extremely obvious he was mettling in the election.

Assange, did what no other govt managed to do and that was make winkileaks lose all credibility.

Right.

When Wikileaks was a vessel of pure info contributed by whistle blowers, hackers, patriots, etc. and Assange was a non partisan leader into this new world of sharing & info I was into the movement 100%.

I didn't care when he started working for RT or any of that. And regarding the election if he would have come out and said he's against Democrats and this is why, fine, a lot of my friends were for Bernie, but Assange lied. He said he was impartial on TV in dozens of interviews and online would say completely the opposite.

No integrity

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Right.

When Wikileaks was a vessel of pure info contributed by whistle blowers, hackers, patriots, etc. and Assange was a non partisan leader into this new world of sharing & info I was into the movement 100%.

I didn't care when he started working for RT or any of that. And regarding the election if he would have come out and said he's against Democrats and this is why, fine, a lot of my friends were for Bernie, but Assange lied. He said he was impartial on TV in dozens of interviews and online would say completely the opposite.

No integrity

Your statements dont even make sense

You don't like him becaue he has exposed the dems for what they are

[crockett]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So you liked him when he was going after the other side, releasing info on Bush and the Repubs but now that he is proving Trump to be right by releasing truthful info, you hate him

Typical sheep moron cuck!

He doesn't work for the russian government. Jesus christ, not everyone who wants fucking globalism and the deep state taking over our lives works for the russians

No dumb dumb, I didn't give a shit about Assange one way or the other. I supported the website and the idea behind it, until Assange used it to fuck with our election. Assange used his position as head of wikileaks to mettle in our election making the website & origination lose all ability to claim it's non-biased.

I couldn't give a fuck if he released Hillary's emails or not. It was his publicly trying to claim it wasn't the Russian govt that gave him the emails as if that was proof the Russians didn't do it. Of course the Russian govt wouldn't give them to him direct..He tried to twist the facts in order to have an effect on the election. His word is worth nothing because he's as lier and as long as he's the head of wikileaks, wikileaks will be used for his anti-US agenda.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by crockett

No dumb dumb, I didn't give a shit about Assange one way or the other. I supported the website and the idea behind it, until Assange used it to fuck with our election. Assange used his position as head of wikileaks to mettle in our election making the website & origination lose all ability to claim it's non-biased.

How did Assange fuck with our election? The DNC got hacked or someone on the inside gave a ton of emails to Assange which were released. He releases all the info he gets. We all know how corrupt the Dems and Clinton were

[Bladewire]

The election made Assange power hungry and instead of releasing all info he would do it every every week and give warning a couple days before and say the info was more explosive than before and it usually wasn't.

I'm big on integrity and honor amongst thieves. He lost integrity lying about wanting revenge on Clinton and he didn't release everything at once , he weaponized the data entrusted to him by others in good faith, that goes against the cause

[Bladewire]

Knowledge is like spirituality, both are powerful and life changing in the right vessel, in the wrong hands they corrupt and bastardize into manipulation & religion.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

How did Assange fuck with our election? The DNC got hacked or someone on the inside gave a ton of emails to Assange which were released. He releases all the info he gets. We all know how corrupt the Dems and Clinton were

Dude I'm not wasting my time spelling things out to you. You aren't even a good troll..

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by crockett

I was a long time supporter of Wikileaks but

...then they exposed the Clintons which my brainwashed mind could not handle after it has been indoctrinated by mainstream media for years that they are good guys.


There, fixed it for you

[nico-t]

"They release facts I do not like and don't want to hear, so now they are bad!!!"

[GFED]

Originally Posted by nico-t

"They release facts I do not like and don't want to hear, so now they are bad!!!"

[Joshua G]

you libs are SO FUCKING STUPID.

this wikileaks dump IS AN ATTACK ON TRUMP!

an obama mole in the CIA dumped all the CIAs tools in order to hurt trump. thats an extremely harmful dump to US intel, no doubt an obama stooge did it.

you dumb fucking retards are totally incapable of seeing reality...even when assange is helping your side!!! he is non-partisan you dumbfucks, but he hit the DNC so he's bad. morons!

so. fucking...dumb libs.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

5 says later Obama granted Manning clemency. The next day Assange changed his mind.

There is no warrant for Assange's arrest in the US. There is no extradition order.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

4) He's been mooching off the Ecuadorian people for 5 years at the embassy to avoid facing rape charges in Sweden.

He is wanted for questioning in Sweden. He has not been charged.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

There is no warrant for Assange's arrest in the US. There is no extradition order.

He is wanted for questioning in Sweden. He has not been charged.

This is Assange's tweet:

"If Obama grants Manning clemency Assange will agree to US extradition despite clear unconstitutionality of DoJ case "

He has an active warrant that expires in 2020 for the main charge of rape and was jailed in 2010 and set bail, then avoided extradition to Sweden, by going to the Ecuadorian embassy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assa...tion_Authority

[Sarn]

Assange work from London - 100% russian int))

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by crockett

Dude I'm not wasting my time spelling things out to you. You aren't even a good troll..

He's been stringing you bitches on for weeks now. He's out trolled the rest of you trolls and you're just jealous.

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by Smack dat

They target America because they are the most corrupt nation. Topple America and the rest will come crumbling down.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by nico-t

...then they exposed the Clintons which my brainwashed mind could not handle after it has been indoctrinated by mainstream media for years that they are good guys.


There, fixed it for you

Best post ever

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by nico-t

"They release facts I do not like and don't want to hear, so now they are bad!!!"

Nope I was wrong....this is

[Relic]

Wikileaks is a Rothschild operation op, so it never had any.

[AndyA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-EJAIXdGp8


Assange HATED Hillary Clinton for whatever reason

that's a good watch

[Paul Markham]

Are the leaks only about one party or about the corruption that runs through the entire system regardless of what party is in power?

To read the brainwashed comments coming from both sides one would think nothing bad happened while Bush was in Government. You really are the stupidest bunch ever.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are the leaks only about one party or about the corruption that runs through the entire system regardless of what party is in power?

The leaks are from Russia, about Europe and America to shake their integrity and make Putins dictatorship stronger through Europe by breaking their alliance.

[sperbonzo]

Has ANYONE even attempted to deny the truth and accuracy of the things he has released? I don't think so.

If the emails and documents that have been released are accurate, who cares where they come from? Just because you don't like his politics, doesn't change the fact that, as a source, since everything they have released has turned out to be true, they are credible.



I don't know or care what his politics are, government officials and political elites doing corrupt and illegal things should be outed, regardless of the source.

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Has ANYONE even attempted to deny the truth and accuracy of the things he has released? I don't think so.

If the emails and documents that have been released are accurate, who cares where they come from? Just because you don't like his politics, doesn't change the fact that, as a source, since everything they have released has turned out to be true, then they are credible.



I don't know or care what his politics are, government officials and political elites doing corrupt and illegal things should be outed, regardless of the source.

This. He has plenty of credibility with me and a lot of others. Seems to me the person you shouldn't trust is one who is always vacillating, such as people who support people for poorly thought out reasons, and then a few months later don't support them for other even more poorly thought out reasons.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Has ANYONE even attempted to deny the truth and accuracy of the things he has released? I don't think so.

If the emails and documents that have been released are accurate, who cares where they come from? Just because you don't like his politics, doesn't change the fact that, as a source, since everything they have released has turned out to be true, they are credible.



I don't know or care what his politics are, government officials and political elites doing corrupt and illegal things should be outed, regardless of the source.

agreed but it appears he is picking and choosing what to release based on his own politics rather than releasing everything.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Knowledge is like spirituality, both are powerful and life changing in the right vessel, in the wrong hands they corrupt and bastardize into manipulation & religion.

Actually, knowledge is the complete opposite of spirituality. Knowledge saves lives, moves humanity forward, and a requirement to make informed decisions. Spirituality is baseless fluff used to control and distract.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

agreed but it appears he is picking and choosing what to release based on his own politics rather than releasing everything.

That may be the case, but we have no way of knowing that. Collecting and distributing secret information has to be a hit or miss kind of business no matter who is doing it. Wouldn't you think?

All we can be sure, up to this point, is that the things that have been released, have all proven to be true. That's pretty "credible" to me.

If in fact there is additional information which is NOT being released, then someone with a different political leaning should get into this act and do it himself. I want every corrupt and illegal act being perpetrated by the Poltical Elite, (who are the only people in the world who have the legal right to use force to compel the rest of us), to be released and exposed.



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[gnawledge]

Here come the insults from the liberal Clinton lovers if you don't agree with their perspective.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually, knowledge is the complete opposite of spirituality.

you know what else is the opposite of spirituality, & synonymous with knowledge?

[Joshua G]

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by nico-t

"They release facts I do not like and don't want to hear, so now they are bad!!!"

Yeah, you are right. they are only complaining now because it had a direct effect against their head party member. They are just late to the party though. For most, wikileaks has been exposed as traitorous and an obvious tool for russian intelligence for years now attacking the US as a whole. It's attacks could lead to war though.

[Steve Rupe]

Asange deserves to be executed to my way of thinking.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are the leaks only about one party or about the corruption that runs through the entire system regardless of what party is in power?

To read the brainwashed comments coming from both sides one would think nothing bad happened while Bush was in Government. You really are the stupidest bunch ever.

Score one for Paul.

This whole "Everything is right with the world now that [ the party I support ] are in power" mentality is taken to a whole other level on this forum. But not just this forum, sadly. The web is rife with card carrying members of both parties whom have each swilled enough of their respective coolaids to drown a hippo.

Anyone who thought that the US political troll threads would die down after the veritable onslaught of the 18 months leading up to the election are obviously now in the midst of their rude awakening.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

That may be the case, but we have no way of knowing that. Collecting and distributing secret information has to be a hit or miss kind of business no matter who is doing it. Wouldn't you think?

All we can be sure, up to this point, is that the things that have been released, have all proven to be true. That's pretty "credible" to me.

If in fact there is additional information which is NOT being released, then someone with a different political leaning should get into this act and do it himself. I want every corrupt and illegal act being perpetrated by the Poltical Elite, (who are the only people in the world who have the legal right to use force to compel the rest of us), to be released and exposed.

That's all well and good but you're missing one key play in this chess game....

This information is being released by Putin while Putin's puppet is in office, for maximum damage.

If our government topples we'll have a corrupt dictator in charge.

Its all well and good to want to know how the sausage is made in our government and be critical of the process and it's secrets, but the alternative is a dictatorship, instigated by Putin.

Remember, they're not exposing secrets to make our society better, their goal is to turn our society into a dictatorship they control. Putin kills his advesaries and has silenced free speech in his country. That's not what I want or how I'm going to live.

[Rochard]

I've never trusted Wikileaks and I am stunned they are still in operation.

Wikileaks was set up to hack and steal information and expose it. It's not like they are exposing greed or corruption or saving lives; Instead they are taking military and intelligence secrets and handing them out like candy. The leaks in the past few years have weakened our military; Terrorists now know exactly how we are targeting and tracking them.

Don't think this doesn't effect you? You don't think every hacker in the world isn't pouring over the recent leaks and trying to hack everything from your cell phone to your tv, web cam, fridge, and car? They made the world a lot less safer.

I am stunned that they are allowed to operate. Don't tell me we cannot touch them. First, with Julian Assange, he is hiding out in the Ecuador embassy in the UK. The first step is to remove all diplomatic contact with Ecuador. If that fails, we bomb their military bases. As for their servers, why haven't we hacked them and shut them all down? And why haven't we started whacking people? Yes, I am dead serious here - I don't care what country you are in but if you expose secrets of the US military suddenly your phone explodes in your face or your brake fails. Knock off - yes, kill - a few of their top people and the message will be received in a big way by the rest of their staff.

Please don't tell me we can't do this; The CIA got caught kidnapping people in Italy years ago. And check out what Israel did after the terrorist attack in Munich with their "Wrath of God" operation where they targeted people for years.

Does't matter now because President Drumpf loves Wikileaks.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never trusted Wikileaks and I am stunned they are still in operation.

Wikileaks was set up to hack and steal information and expose it. It's not like they are exposing greed or corruption or saving lives; Instead they are taking military and intelligence secrets and handing them out like candy. The leaks in the past few years have weakened our military; Terrorists now know exactly how we are targeting and tracking them.

Don't think this doesn't effect you? You don't think every hacker in the world isn't pouring over the recent leaks and trying to hack everything from your cell phone to your tv, web cam, fridge, and car? They made the world a lot less safer.

I am stunned that they are allowed to operate. Don't tell me we cannot touch them. First, with Julian Assange, he is hiding out in the Ecuador embassy in the UK. The first step is to remove all diplomatic contact with Ecuador. If that fails, we bomb their military bases. As for their servers, why haven't we hacked them and shut them all down? And why haven't we started whacking people? Yes, I am dead serious here - I don't care what country you are in but if you expose secrets of the US military suddenly your phone explodes in your face or your brake fails. Knock off - yes, kill - a few of their top people and the message will be received in a big way by the rest of their staff.

Please don't tell me we can't do this; The CIA got caught kidnapping people in Italy years ago. And check out what Israel did after the terrorist attack in Munich with their "Wrath of God" operation where they targeted people for years.

Does't matter now because President Drumpf loves Wikileaks.

The information that they are releasing is true

But you don't trust wikileaks

Ok

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I've never trusted Wikileaks and I am stunned they are still in operation.

Wikileaks was set up to hack and steal information and expose it. It's not like they are exposing greed or corruption or saving lives; Instead they are taking military and intelligence secrets and handing them out like candy. The leaks in the past few years have weakened our military; Terrorists now know exactly how we are targeting and tracking them.

Don't think this doesn't effect you? You don't think every hacker in the world isn't pouring over the recent leaks and trying to hack everything from your cell phone to your tv, web cam, fridge, and car? They made the world a lot less safer.

I am stunned that they are allowed to operate. Don't tell me we cannot touch them. First, with Julian Assange, he is hiding out in the Ecuador embassy in the UK. The first step is to remove all diplomatic contact with Ecuador. If that fails, we bomb their military bases. As for their servers, why haven't we hacked them and shut them all down? And why haven't we started whacking people? Yes, I am dead serious here - I don't care what country you are in but if you expose secrets of the US military suddenly your phone explodes in your face or your brake fails. Knock off - yes, kill - a few of their top people and the message will be received in a big way by the rest of their staff.

Please don't tell me we can't do this; The CIA got caught kidnapping people in Italy years ago. And check out what Israel did after the terrorist attack in Munich with their "Wrath of God" operation where they targeted people for years.

Does't matter now because President Drumpf loves Wikileaks.

Excellent points!

The funny thing is the Russian camera spyware / ransomware, that's been rampant for years, now being spun as the CIA spying on Americans

The media is chasing the wrong dog and not focused on Russia in the Whitehouse again, just what Putin/Trump want.

I'm surprise Assange is still alive. If he was doing this to Putin he'd be dead by now.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Actually, knowledge is the complete opposite of spirituality. Knowledge saves lives, moves humanity forward, and a requirement to make informed decisions. Spirituality is baseless fluff used to control and distract.

I'm not religious or even spiritual in the least, but your definition of spirituality is grossly misinformed...

spirituality saves millions daily. it can help people cope with addiction, battle depression, reconnect with their family or friends. It can inspire people to do good for others, it can aid in rehabilitation. People who have lost everything. Family, money, jobs can sometimes be saved by having someone, maybe even a stranger, believe in them--even just a little bit is enough sometimes. Can knowledge save everyone from that? Are you going to take a class at a local community college to help you with your depression? I'm sure that would work for a few, but not most. You could spend years writing up a dissertation on anxiety, but would that help prevent you from suffering from it yourself? Probably not.

Whether it is done through religion or through ddp yoga who gives a shit? As long as someone finds something positive to help get back on track and maybe even give a little back themselves is only a good thing right? Humanity will never go forward unless spirituality exists in one form or another.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Relic

Wikileaks is a Rothschild operation op, so it never had any.

If that were true then the leaks would not just focus on western nations now would it? Any russian leaks on that site?

besides, like any rothchild conspiracy, zero motive.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The leaks are from Russia, about Europe and America to shake their integrity and make Putins dictatorship stronger through Europe by breaking their alliance.

Are they true?

Is it a thing that happens under either sides leadership?

There's very little that anyone can release about Trump's political career and a mountain that can be released that happened in the last 8 and the 8 before then. So the problem is deeper than Trump. It reveals a system rotten to the core whoever is in power and both Clintons have been part of for the last 24 years and up to their necks in it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I don't know or care what his politics are, government officials and political elites doing corrupt and illegal things should be outed, regardless of the source.

This.

The problem is apathy. Too many voters are willing to vote for politicians who are up to their necks in corruption, yet blow a gasket over a sex scandal.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Score one for Paul.

This whole "Everything is right with the world now that [ the party I support ] are in power" mentality is taken to a whole other level on this forum. But not just this forum, sadly. The web is rife with card carrying members of both parties whom have each swilled enough of their respective coolaids to drown a hippo.

Anyone who thought that the US political troll threads would die down after the veritable onslaught of the 18 months leading up to the election are obviously now in the midst of their rude awakening.

I very much doubt if many voters study politicians voting record before re-electing them. They go for the party first and last and ignore the huge system behind them that doesn't change and carries on regardless.

In the UK it's no different.