If Trump gets impeached, would you be happier with a PENCE presidency?

[mce]

If Pence takes the throne, would Trump fans and critics alike be happier?

[kane]

Trump fans, probably not. They like his particular brand of trainwreck. His critics? I'm sure some of them would be happy and other's would not. In a way, Democrats might actually be sad. Trump has been good for business for them. Some pollsters are saying that if things continue as is the Democrats have a shot at taking back the house in 2018 and right now they are raising record amounts of money for various house and Senate races. If Trump goes away and Pence replaces him that energy may go with him.

[escorpio]

He has the cure for Bladewire!

[Bladewire]

Pence has too many skeletons in his closet, like all the guys that fucked him in college

[slapass]

Are there any Americans who still support Trump? The most die hards are ready to see him go now.

[kane]

Originally Posted by slapass

Are there any Americans who still support Trump? The most die hards are ready to see him go now.

Not according to the job approval polls. Depending on which poll you read/believe his approval rating is still somewhere between 38%-45%.

Basically, the people who voted for him like him and think he is doing a good job and pretty much everyone else is shaking their head.

[RyuLion]

Some will be happier but not till they see the news the next day, there's no keeping Americans or/and spoiled people happy everyday..

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by escorpio

He has the cure for Bladewire!

It obviously didn't work for you.

[pimpmaster9000]

Impeach pence too!

[sarettah]

If Trump gets impeached it will tie up the entire Federal government for months and months. Nothing will get done. Once it is over, if convicted then Pence would take office just in time to watch the GOP lose the House and Senate in 2018 therefore guaranteeing an additional 2 years of nothing getting done.

In other words, It will be business as usual.

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[crockett]

Pence is gone,done, out of there.. it will be President Orin Hatch, all those above him in the line of succession are caught up in the Russian probe.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by sarettah

If Drumpf gets impeached it will tie up the entire Federal government for months and months. Nothing will get done. Once it is over, if convicted then Pence would take office just in time to watch the GOP lose the House and Senate in 2018 therefore guaranteeing an additional 2 years of nothing getting done.

In other words, It will be business as usual.

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Nothing is getting done right now so... business as usual.

[JuicyBunny]

It would be like going from fucked to ultra-fucked.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by sarettah

If Trump gets impeached it will tie up the entire Federal government for months and months. Nothing will get done. Once it is over, if convicted then Pence would take office just in time to watch the GOP lose the House and Senate in 2018 therefore guaranteeing an additional 2 years of nothing getting done.

In other words, It will be business as usual.

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The Electoral College was designed to protect us from a candidate like Trump FFS The Trump Taj Mahal, was hit with an $10 million civil penalty by the U.S. Treasury financial crimes unit in 2015 for ?willful and repeated violations? of anti-money laundering requirements." and Trump was awaiting trial for personal liability in a federal consumer fraud class action suit that he dragged out for 10 years and ended up settling a week before pre-trial for $25 million.

Only in a 3rd world country would someone like Trump become president after LOSING the majority vote. Total system failure

[Rochard]

My thinking on this past election was "anyone would be better than Trump". This is still what I believe.

Trump is completely unqualified. He has lived in a bubble all of his life, and doesn't have a basic understanding of how our government works on all levels. He thought that he was the President and that everyone would have to listen to him and everyone who have to do what he says. He quickly went to war with the two most powerful organizations in the world - The American intelligence community, and the American press. Either of these two can take down a US President. These are the two groups you do not piss off.

Do I think Pence would be better? Dunno. I honestly do not know enough about him. However, these investigations are huge and far reaching, and they are looking into Pence too.

[crockett]

Remember that time Obama summoned Chaffetz and Gowdy to the Oval Office and told them, "Hillary's a good woman, I hope you'll let her go, let go of this Benghazi thing"? And the Republicans all agreed that nothing was improper about that and it was well within a President's prerogative to express an opinion like that? Remember?!

stole that from Reddit, thought it was funny..

[Bladewire]

He's so creepy

[mce]

Originally Posted by kane

....Trump has been good for business for them. Some pollsters are saying that if things continue as is the Democrats have a shot at taking back the house in 2018 and right now they are raising record amounts of money for various house and Senate races. If Trump goes away and Pence replaces him that energy may go with him.

One thing's for sure, Trump's been a blessing to MSNBC

[kane]

Originally Posted by mce

One thing's for sure, Trump's been a blessing to MSNBC

And CNN and well. I read that their ratings went up a lot during the election, although I think they are back down in recent months. Stephen Colbert is also seeing a nice uptick in ratings ever since he has gone after Trump on his show.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by escorpio

He has the cure for Bladewire!

If you only knew

[Paul Markham]

Would the establishment be happier?

Trump has made the establishment mad as hell and they never expected him to win. Getting him out and replaced by Pence would be a win for them.

[romeo22]

He wont be good as a president

[mce]

The bottom line? Pence would probably pick RELIABLY CONSERVATIVE scotus justices.

Trump... he might well pick a liberal the next time around. He's the type to pick Souters if left unguided.

[Busty2]

I doubt anyone could be a bigger cluster fuck than Chump. Whoever takes over will have to undo all the shit Chump has created and that will take time!

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by kane

And CNN and well. I read that their ratings went up a lot during the election, although I think they are back down in recent months. Stephen Colbert is also seeing a nice uptick in ratings ever since he has gone after Trump on his show.

I don't have Fox News ....

What are they talking about daily ... Their spin ?

[Barry-xlovecam]

That would be like the Jehovah's Witnesses taking over.
This whole business of corruption and malfeasance will not be resolved until Christmas ...
A good closer knows when to shut up.


Gives a new meaning to word salad ...

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by slapass

Are there any Americans who still support Trump? The most die hards are ready to see him go now.

I support Trump. I'm still in hopes he can restore America to those who work for a living...
Most everyone against him are because 1 they are lazy, or 2 they are brainwashed and have trouble with reality

[slapass]

Originally Posted by kane

Not according to the job approval polls. Depending on which poll you read/believe his approval rating is still somewhere between 38%-45%.

Basically, the people who voted for him like him and think he is doing a good job and pretty much everyone else is shaking their head.

We have to see what it is after this move. I have not heard anyone who thinks this was a good idea. He fucked up obviously. He pretty much proved once again that he is not fit for the job.

[AndyA]

ANYTHING... and I mean ANYTHING is better than Trump....

I would suck Romneys dick for him to be President right now

Pence is a nothing little fleeb that will try and push his anti-abortion agenda but with no real support he will spend his 2 or 3 years being ignored.. but he's not DANGEROUS

this Trump is a DANGER to our Country

[bronco67]

Happier? No.

Feel better? yes.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Would the establishment be happier?

Trump has made the establishment mad as hell and they never expected him to win. Getting him out and replaced by Pence would be a win for them.

exactly

although Trump is making deals with the devil as well (False flag Syria bombing as per the establishments agenda), Pence is and always has been a full fledged establishment sock puppet.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by SmutHammer

I support Trump. I'm still in hopes he can restore America to those who work for a living...
Most everyone against him are because 1 they are lazy, or 2 they are brainwashed and have trouble with reality

I bet you believe in the tooth fairy as well...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Remember that time Obama summoned Chaffetz and Gowdy to the Oval Office and told them, "Hillary's a good woman, I hope you'll let her go, let go of this Benghazi thing"? And the Republicans all agreed that nothing was improper about that and it was well within a President's prerogative to express an opinion like that? Remember?!

stole that from Reddit, thought it was funny..

I don't recall this happening.

However, the entire Benghazi issue was pure bullshit. This was a terrorist attack that had nothing to do with Clinton. We didn't see it coming, and nothing we could have done would have changed the outcome.

The email server was more of the same. It just is not illegal for the Secretary Of State to have a private email server, and to pass classified information through it. In fact, it was common at both the State Department as well as Congress. You can try to argue she mishandled classified information, but no information was leaked or hacked so that's not true, not to mention other former Secretaries Of State had done this also.

These were nothing more than political attacks.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't recall this happening.

However, the entire Benghazi issue was pure bullshit. This was a terrorist attack that had nothing to do with Clinton. We didn't see it coming, and nothing we could have done would have changed the outcome.

The email server was more of the same. It just is not illegal for the Secretary Of State to have a private email server, and to pass classified information through it. In fact, it was common at both the State Department as well as Congress. You can try to argue she mishandled classified information, but no information was leaked or hacked so that's not true, not to mention other former Secretaries Of State had done this also.

These were nothing more than political attacks.

It was a joke to show the hypocrisy of Republicans..

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

It was a joke to show the hypocrisy of Republicans..

This is a huge part of the problem. Our elected officials are putting party above country. This is wrong.

[kane]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I don't have Fox News ....

What are they talking about daily ... Their spin ?

It's interesting. For example, the last few days all CNN has been talking about is the firing of Comey and now Trump telling the Russians classified information. Over on Fox, they are talking about who is leaking this information to the press and how Hillary did worse.

[kane]

Originally Posted by slapass

We have to see what it is after this move. I have not heard anyone who thinks this was a good idea. He fucked up obviously. He pretty much proved once again that he is not fit for the job.

I've read in the last few days some polls that say upwards of 80% of people think he was wrong to fire Comey. It will be interesting to see if that has any affect on his overall approval rating.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by escorpio

He has the cure for Bladewire!

taco time!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by kane

It's interesting. For example, the last few days all CNN has been talking about is the firing of Comey and now Trump telling the Russians classified information. Over on Fox, they are talking about who is leaking this information to the press and how Hillary did worse.

Because Republicans and Fox news are trying to cover up Trump's crimes. The entire admin is done including Pence (Pence was involved with firing Comey and knew of the money laundering).. It's not just the Links to Russia now or the money laundering, now we can add obstruction of justice. We are talking at least 3 FBI investigations now unless they've rolled it up into one big RICO case as it's been suggested has happened..

The entire White House will have to be hosed out with a fire hose to clean the mess the Trump admin has made..

Drain the Oval Office!

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by nico-t

exactly

although Trump is making deals with the devil as well (False flag Syria bombing as per the establishments agenda), Pence is and always has been a full fledged establishment sock puppet.

I don't think either Paul or yourself have a correct view as to what the 'establishment' is. Trump hasn't done a thing to fight against it as of yet. other than filling up his cabinet with billionaires or executives from banks and oil companies, and firing every states attorney--including the ones going after big banks. is that what you meant? that can't be seen as a good thing by you can it? Or are both of you not familiar with what he is doing specifically and just speaking in vague terms?