Those who still think electric cars are not the future...

[crockett]

Biggest threat to Ford? Not GM, but Silicon Valley - CBS News

Ford just replaced their 28 year company veteran & CEO because they wanted a more innovative CEO who could promote electric and autonomous vehicles.. I still say 10-15 years and the bulk of cars on the highway will be electric and autonomous..

I think the electric/autonomous will come at the same time because we are in the middle of major transportation shift to electric and they will phase in the autonomous at the same time.

I think we will also see a major shift away from car ownership for people in big cities. When services like uber/lyft are being run with autonomous cars it will be the norm to just take use that instead of your own car because they will get it down to 5 min or less wait time in bigger cities. This will spread to large to med sized cities and suburban metro areas.

We are now at the same cross roads which happen 100 years ago when the gas powered car replaced the horse & buggy.. Who would have ever thought that just a mere hundred years ago the main mode of transportation was a horse & wagon.. with trains powered by steam..

[Rochard]

It's only a matter of time before this becomes a reality. I am seeing more and more electric cars on the road all the time. We have a Tesla dealership up the road from us.

If the oil companies were smart, they would be investing in solar and making batteries.

[notinmybackyard]

I've seen how the younger generation drives and most of them need a robot chauffeur.

[Acepimp]

Crockett, electric cars are NOT the future. The destructive mining to get the rare earth metals to build the batteries, that's not good, or even possible to make billions of large batteries. And then, if you plug your car in to recharge, guess what you're burning more COAL.

THIS is the future: plant-based clean cars

[AndyA]

Has anyone ever read how Elon Musk started his car company.. Telsa now the most valuable car company in the World besting Fiat

It was a series of super lucky events... they were able to buy some sort of car press that is usually like $400MIL or some madness like that and they got it for $20MIL... Obama was in office.... a bunch of luck and brains but in a few short years

TESLA is making 4 door sedans that can beat Lambos, Ferraris and Bugattis 0-60 and 0-100 it's unbelievable

[PaperstreetWinston]

Originally Posted by crockett

Biggest threat to Ford? Not GM, but Silicon Valley - CBS News

Ford just replaced their 28 year company veteran & CEO because they wanted a more innovative CEO who could promote electric and autonomous vehicles.. I still say 10-15 years and the bulk of cars on the highway will be electric and autonomous..

I think the electric/autonomous will come at the same time because we are in the middle of major transportation shift to electric and they will phase in the autonomous at the same time.

I think we will also see a major shift away from car ownership for people in big cities. When services like uber/lyft are being run with autonomous cars it will be the norm to just take use that instead of your own car because they will get it down to 5 min or less wait time in bigger cities. This will spread to large to med sized cities and suburban metro areas.

We are now at the same cross roads which happen 100 years ago when the gas powered car replaced the horse & buggy.. Who would have ever thought that just a mere hundred years ago the main mode of transportation was a horse & wagon.. with trains powered by steam..

Agree with you completely. Car ownership or manually driven cars will soon be restricted on special tracks or user zones or even added to amusement parks.

[incredibleworkethic]

Very temped to go electric. The numbers just work for me with the government incentives.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by AndyA

Has anyone ever read how Elon Musk started his car company.. Telsa now the most valuable car company in the World besting Fiat

It was a series of super lucky events... they were able to buy some sort of car press that is usually like $400MIL or some madness like that and they got it for $20MIL... Obama was in office.... a bunch of luck and brains but in a few short years

TESLA is making 4 door sedans that can beat Lambos, Ferraris and Bugattis 0-60 and 0-100 it's unbelievable

Its all about running with the opportunity when it presents itself. Just like his boring company, he found a used boring machine and is running with his idea.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by WinstonBizprofits

Agree with you completely. Car ownership or manually driven cars will soon be restricted on special tracks or user zones or even added to amusement parks.

It would be hard to restrict them.. It will be the market that pushes it. Gas and insurance will get too high due to most people having electric self drivers.. it will get too expensive to drive yourself in a gas car.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic

Very temped to go electric. The numbers just work for me with the government incentives.

Do it - You will absolute love it. They accelerate faster. They're high tech. They cost alot less than gas. Alot less maintenance. Ultra quiet. And lots of stats too if you're a data hound.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by crockett

I still say 10-15 years and the bulk of cars on the highway will be electric and autonomous..

Only a tiny percentage of cars on the road right now are electric. None are autonomous.

So what's going to happen to all of the traditional cars between now and 10-15 years? What process is going to send them to the junkyard so that electric autonomous can be the majority?

Your 10-15 year outlook shows a gross lack of common sense.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Crockett, electric cars are NOT the future. The destructive mining to get the rare earth metals to build the batteries, that's not good, or even possible to make billions of large batteries. And then, if you plug your car in to recharge, guess what you're burning more COAL.

yep, electric is still not clean...a step in the right direction? maybe but not by much.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Only a tiny percentage of cars on the road right now are electric. None are autonomous.

So what's going to happen to all of the traditional cars between now and 10-15 years? What process is going to send them to the junkyard so that electric autonomous can be the majority?

Your 10-15 year outlook shows a gross lack of common sense.

They will be replaced. The average car on the road is 11 years old. I think he is being optimistic as old people in America are super resistant to change. Anyone who has driven a Tesla sees it is the future.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Your 10-15 year outlook shows a gross lack of common sense.

You can't expect common sense from someone that apparently believes that electric cars are powered by electricity that is generated by rubbing balloons on people's heads. Or similarly that trains used to be "powered" by steam apparently captured from hydrothermal vents or something.



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[romeo22]

I still want to buy one

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by crockett

.. I still say 10-15 years and the bulk of cars on the highway will be electric and autonomous..

So the liberal GFY commies want to outlaw freedom and make everyone ride in self-driving cars. Your movements will be tracked and recorded.

Sounds awesome!

Why don't you commies just move to Cuba, you'll like it there!

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by slapass

They will be replaced.

They will not be replaced in an iPhone 1 sense.

There will come a time when new car purchases are majority electric. Then they will filter down through the used car market, sending the gas engine cars to the junkyard over a long period of time.

I foresee gas cars still being the majority on the road in 20 years.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Crockett, electric cars are NOT the future. The destructive mining to get the rare earth metals to build the batteries, that's not good, or even possible to make billions of large batteries. And then, if you plug your car in to recharge, guess what you're burning more COAL.

this.

the dumb lib OP just covers his eyes when facts get in the way of his liberal fairy tales. hey guess where ALL the rare earth minerals to make solar panels & batteries come from??? drum roll....

china.

dumb libs. king oil is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. there will still be gas guzzling barges on the road in 30 years...because oil is cheap, getting cheaper, & americans like big cars. duh.

dumb libs.

[Joshua G]

love how the dim bulb OP thinks he's an expert anthropologist yesterday.

now today the OP is an expert automotive engineer & energy analyst.

what a fucking moron. know your limits dumb lib!!!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Only a tiny percentage of cars on the road right now are electric. None are autonomous.

So what's going to happen to all of the traditional cars between now and 10-15 years? What process is going to send them to the junkyard so that electric autonomous can be the majority?

Your 10-15 year outlook shows a gross lack of common sense.

Cash for clunkers was already a thing to give people incentive to buy newer cars with better mileage & emissions. The process will be as more and more people go electric there will be less and less demand for fuel, which drives up the prices. The cost will be split among a smaller market which will drive the price up. Average people will be priced out of gas cars. (why do you think the Saudis have been dumping as much oil as they can, they aren't dumb, they see what will happen, they are trying to kill electric but haven't been able to do it)

It will be the same story with self driving cars. People who drive themselves will be in a smaller and smaller pool for insurance liability. This means the price for insurance will keep going up until it's not affordable for the average person to insure a car they drive themselves..

Trust me, I love driving my self and I like gas/diesel cars but you can't change progress when it's being driven by the market. It doesn't matter if you believe it's good progress or bad you aren't stopping it. It's very obvious what's going to happen.. The trick will be for the big oil companies to try and figure out a way to keep themselves in charge of it all, that's why they want to push hydrogen because you'd have to fill up at a pumping station vs changing your car at home.

With electric, the oil companies lose control because you can fast charge your car at home , at lowes at the hotel you stay at, at work.. ect..ect.. There will be no need for pumping stations anymore, because regular businesses will set up charging stations.. This is already a fact it's happening all over..

The problem big oil is facing is electric is already ready for mainstream.. It's here now, hydrogen is still too far out to make the move "NOW" and NOW is when shit's changing. They are a bit too late to the game and aren't capable of undermining a guy like Musk who for the most part single handily drove the market to electric.

You should get down on your knees and praise Musk, because by pushing electric like he has done he made other car manufacturers jump on board and in the long run we will finally be free of big oil monopolies and their war agenda for resources.. The world just doesn't realize it yet..

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Only a tiny percentage of cars on the road right now are electric.

How Many Electric Cars Are There in the USA? - Nanalyze

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

None are autonomous.

You can buy it today:

Advanced auto-pilot doubles the number of active cameras from four to eight, enabling full self-driving in almost all circumstances, at what we believe will be a probability of safety at least twice as good as the average human driver.

The system is designed to be able to conduct short and long distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver's seat.

For Superchargers that have automatic charge connection enabled, you will not even need to plug in your vehicle. All you will need to do is get in and tell your car where to go. If you don't say anything, the car will look at your calendar and take you there as the assumed destination or just home if nothing is on the calendar.

https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/models/design

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

So what's going to happen to all of the traditional cars between now and 10-15 years?

They will go the way of the Beta Video Tape recorder and Sony Walkman. Die-hard fans will keep their cars, and old ice cars will go up (way up!) in value. This is the perfect time for car collectors to invest.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

What process is going to send them to the junkyard so that electric autonomous can be the majority?

The market.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Your 10-15 year outlook shows a gross lack of common sense.

Some think otherwise.

Originally Posted by Acepimp

So the liberal GFY commies want to outlaw freedom and make everyone ride in self-driving cars.

No one set outlaw freedom. No one wants to make you drive self driving cars. Right wing GFY'ers are paranoid.

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Your movements will be tracked and recorded.

Do you have a smartphone?

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Why don't you commies just move to Cuba, you'll like it there!

You mean where car technology is stuck in the 50's? Sounds more like a Republican wet dream, not a libby one.

Originally Posted by Joshua G

love how the dim bulb OP thinks he's an expert anthropologist yesterday.

now today the OP is an expert automotive engineer & energy analyst.

what a fucking moron. know your limits dumb lib!!!

You never read, do you?