Special counsel is investigating Trump for obstruction of justice, officials say

[RedFred]

Oh, shit. Dingus is going down.


The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

The move by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s own conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.


Special counsel is investigating Trump for obstruction of justice, officials say

[Bladewire]

This is why Trumps attorneys used past tense when declaring vindication that Trump "wasn't" under investigation instead of the present tense "isn't" under investigation

FBI investigates from the bottom up, so they've finally worked their way up to the top.

Redhats will say it's fake news in 3... 2...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Slow motion train wreck ...

[beerptrol]

All he had to do was sit back and let the investigations run their course. His ego wouldn't let him

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

All he had to do was sit back and let the investigations run their course. His ego wouldn't let him

I think in this case though the crime is worse than the cover up.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

I think in this case though the crime is worse than the cover up.

I don't think Trump was behind it all but I think he knew about it and supported it. I think Banning & Manafort are the fixers, Manafort has a history of this in the Ukraine etc.

[Bladewire]

It's even on Fox News so redhats can't cry "fake news". I even posted a video for redhats with reading comprehension deficits

Special counsel is investigating President Trump for obstruction of justice, new report says | Fox News

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I don't think Trump was behind it all but I think he knew about it and supported it. I think Banning & Manafort are the fixers, Manafort has a history of this in the Ukraine etc.

I don't think we'll ever know the full truth, he didn't have to choose Manafort and Bannon as his right hand men and it's interesting that everyone in his campaign and cabinet have something to do with Russia, even the lawyers he chooses.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

I don't think we'll ever know the full truth, he didn't have to choose Manafort and Bannon as his right hand men and it's interesting that everyone in his campaign and cabinet have something to do with Russia, even the lawyers he chooses.

The FBI doesn't just investigate anyone , it had to be serious and serious potential for a crime being committed, as the redhats said here for an entire 3 years about Clinton.

[OneHungLo]

Again guys? really? lol

[Robbie]

Keep in mind that there is no official word on this.

This is another (of the daily) Washington Post stories from "anonymous sources".
It may be true. Or it could be like most of the other stories that they have published and 100% false.
Just like the story that they and the New York Times did that claimed Trump was under investigation in the first place all those months ago.

Who knows?
That unfortunately is the state of the leftist controlled media these days.
They don't report the news. They report "stories" that they can't back up with any facts.

Maybe they got this one right? But shouldn't they be reporting FACTS instead of wishful thinking?
I know that all of you hate Trump and cheer these kinds of things on.

But what does it really mean? The media that we are supposed to trust is NOT trustworthy at all.
Reading the Washington Post these days is no different than reading The National Enquirer...except the Enquirer has actually broken some national news over the past decade.
The WP? Watergate 45 years ago was their one glorious moment.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's even on Fox News so redhats can't cry "fake news". I even posted a video for redhats with reading comprehension deficits

Special counsel is investigating President Trump for obstruction of justice, new report says | Fox News

You dumb shit, no one is denying the report.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by baddog

You dumb shit, no one is denying the report.

Dude you'd deny it if it wasn't on FoxNews and you know it!

Wanna come over and go for a swim tonight? We can drink and get stoned in the jacuzzi too

[Joshua G]

nice timing dropping this story on the same day the news is filled with the news of a liberal shooter.

im sure thats just a coincidence.

fooled again, dumb libs.

[TheDynasty]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Dude you'd deny it if it wasn't on FoxNews and you know it!

Wanna come over and go for a swim tonight? We can drink and get stoned in the jacuzzi too

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

nice timing dropping this story on the same day the news is filled with the news of a liberal shooter.

im sure thats just a coincidence.

fooled again, dumb libs.

It's Trump's birthday today, it was his birthday present.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's Trump's birthday today, it was his birthday present.

what is the source of this new & important news?

do you even care?

no. stay stupid.

[Bladewire]

Trump's birthday celebrations marred by historically low approval rating, a shooting, and a personal FBI obstruction of justice investigation revelation | The Independent

[Joshua G]

historically low approval? from the same pollsters that told you hilary had an 11 point lead. did she win the election, dumb libs?

I feel like my opposition are a bunch of 1st graders.

hey guys! in 20 years all the ice on both poles is gonna melt. get scared!!!

[baddog]

CBS News reported it hours ago; not sure why gayliar thinks I watch Fox.

[Bladewire]

Bonerdog's buddy Trump is in deep shit of epic proportions now

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Keep in mind that there is no official word on this.

This is another (of the daily) Washington Post stories from "anonymous sources".
It may be true. Or it could be like most of the other stories that they have published and 100% false.
Just like the story that they and the New York Times did that claimed Drumpf was under investigation in the first place all those months ago.

Who knows?
That unfortunately is the state of the leftist controlled media these days.
They don't report the news. They report "stories" that they can't back up with any facts.

Maybe they got this one right? But shouldn't they be reporting FACTS instead of wishful thinking?
I know that all of you hate Trump and cheer these kinds of things on.

But what does it really mean? The media that we are supposed to trust is NOT trustworthy at all.
Reading the Washington Post these days is no different than reading The National Enquirer...except the Enquirer has actually broken some national news over the past decade.
The WP? Watergate 45 years ago was their one glorious moment.

The White House isn't denying it; In fact, just earlier they called it "illegal" and a "leak".

This isn't even surprising. Trump fired the man investigating his campaign and his administration; It was only a matter of time before the investigation turned to obstruction of justice because it's very, VERY obvious what has happened here. If you fire the person investigating you it's obstruction of justice. Please don't tell me "Trump wasn't under investigation" - of course he was. They are investigating his campaign and his administration; They are investigating dozens of people who worked directly for Trump. Eventually all roads will lead to the top. You don't think Flynn and Sessions was having secret discussions with the Russians and not telling Trump, right?

There seems to be five different investigations now, and they seem to be focusing on three different areas - Collusion with the Russians, finances, and now Obstruction Of Justice. I find the finances to be the most interesting part. USA Today has been posting articles about how suddenly Trump is selling off property to "Shell companies" that obscure who bought the properties.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lcs/102399558/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ate/102382726/

Right now Trump and all of his family is under the world's largest microscope, and every transaction they've done in the past decade is going to get a close look by the smartest investigators in the country. All of this is going to come to light.

Trump's approval rating cannot get any lower, can it?

It's only a matter of time at this point. Tick tock, tick tock.

[Paul Markham]

The establishment is determined to bring Trump down because the idea of a politician with ideas that don't fit with what the establishment want. Is unthinkable. They did it with Sanders and they will do it with Trump.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The White House isn't denying it; In fact, just earlier they called it "illegal" and a "leak".

What CNN didn't tell you is: They can't "deny" it because they don't KNOW anything about it.

That's the thing...the FBI doesn't tell people that they are under investigation. If Trump even tries to ask they will tell him that they can not tell him that information.

But somehow the Washington Post has it? Just like they were reporting that Trump was under investigation for "collusion" with Russia (that whole bullshit is now dropped off the map)

Who knows? Maybe Mueller is looking into it. Not much to "investigate". Either Trump asking Comey to lay off Flynn is obstruction or it isn't.

Just like the year long "investigation" into "Russian collusion".
They have all the intercepted phone calls already. How much "investigation" is needed to decide if it was "collusion" or not.
Well...according to Comey and the heads of all the Intelligence Agency's...it was NOT collusion.

So now the witch hunt continues. Meanwhile...Trump continues to get more done in these first few months than Obama did in his entire 8 years.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

close look by the smartest investigators in the country

LOL!

Okay Rochard...you keep believing that govt. bureaucrats are the "smartest investigators in the country"

By the way...Mueller has picked a team of lawyers as his "investigators".
And they are all Democrats, all BIG contributors to Hillary and Obama, AND...one of them was the lawyer defending Hillary over the Clinton Global Initiative scandal and fought tooth and nail AGAINST the Freedom of Information Act in that case.

Mueller has decided that not even ONE Republican could be on his team of "smartest investigators in the country" (who are just a pack of lawyers).

I'm smelling a major backfire for the Democrat Party.
People were already sick of them. And now they are attempting to use un-elected bureaucrats to overturn an election of the duly elected President.

2018? The Democrats are gonna lose...again.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The establishment is determined to bring Trump down because the idea of a politician with ideas that don't fit with what the establishment want. Is unthinkable. They did it with Sanders and they will do it with Trump.

Chump is the establishment. But keep drinking the orange drink.
People want him gone because he is incompetent, a liar, and corrupt as they come

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Robbie

LOL!



Mueller has decided that not even ONE Republican could be on his team of "smartest investigators in the country" (who are just a pack of lawyers).

Maybe it's hard to find a smart republican.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Okay Rochard...you keep believing that govt. bureaucrats are the "smartest investigators in the country"

You are right Robbie. Having an investigation backed up by the FBI and the full force of the US Congress doesn't include the "smartest investigators in the country".

[Barry-xlovecam]

15, June 2017 Trump Date 146 days

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

nice timing dropping this story on the same day the news is filled with the news of a liberal shooter.

im sure thats just a coincidence.

fooled again, dumb libs.

What's this? Another unconfirmed story from the Amazon Post? Anonymous sources said it, it must be true!!

Once again the liberal loons believe totally fake news.

Once again JoshuaG and I are smart enough to see that it's an attempt to distract you from the lunatic liberal shooter.

You guys fell for the fake news- Again!

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Chump is the establishment. But keep drinking the orange drink.
People want him gone because he is incompetent, a liar, and corrupt as they come

You're saying the independent business man who was never in politics, is the establishment??

But Hillary taking millions from wall Street, George Soros, big pharma... She's not the establishment?

What the fuck planet are you on Beerptrl? Are you even in America? Do you have any idea that by electing Trump, America dodged a bullet named the Clintons. Get some facts please, thanks buddy.

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Chump is the establishment. But keep drinking the orange drink.
People want him gone because he is incompetent, a liar, and corrupt as they come

100% correct !! He fosters hate, he disseminates misinformation, lies just flow from his mouth like CO2 and profits personal from his privileged position.He cares about no one but himself. His mantra should be "Make Chump Great Again"

[crockett]

Originally Posted by baddog

You dumb shit, no one is denying the report.

LoL Robbie just did, guess he didn't watch the video... lol

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

You're saying the independent business man who was never in politics, is the establishment??

But Hillary taking millions from wall Street, George Soros, big pharma... She's not the establishment?

What the fuck planet are you on Beerptrl? Are you even in America? Do you have any idea that by electing Trump, America dodged a bullet named the Clintons. Get some facts please, thanks buddy.

There you go making shit up . Point to were I said she wasn't the establishment.
Take your own advice and get some real facts instead of alternate facts that Chump feeds you via his cock. He is the establishment, but you are to stupid to see it!

America dodged a bullet named Hillary?
But let loose an incompetent conman buffoon named chump who is doing more damage

Instead of surrounding himself with people who could help him, he surrounds himself with rich donors because he thinks he knows it all. He's an idiot which makes him dangerous

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Rochard

You are right Robbie. Having an investigation backed up by the FBI and the full force of the US Congress doesn't include the "smartest investigators in the country".

Obviously they would have private practices if they were smart, not be govt employees...

Sry I wanted to give the "short" version of Robbie's next reply..

[Busty2]

Chump should look to the WH and his own team for leaks, take the leak that came to light a few days ago about Chump thinking of firing Muller. So it looks like Muller has fired back. Now if Chump fires Muller he will seal his own fate ?

At the end of the day Chump is his own worst enemy, his constant Tweets undermine his own staff and he even contradicts himself on a daily basis. He is in a downward spiral unable to get anything done that he promised his sheep, all he can think about is what is happening to him. As always he couldn't give a shit about anyone else but himself !!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Chump is the establishment. But keep drinking the orange drink.
People want him gone because he is incompetent, a liar, and corrupt as they come

The establishment wanted Hillary.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

You're saying the independent business man who was never in politics, is the establishment??

But Hillary taking millions from wall Street, George Soros, big pharma... She's not the establishment?

What the fuck planet are you on Beerptrl? Are you even in America? Do you have any idea that by electing Trump, America dodged a bullet named the Clintons. Get some facts please, thanks buddy.

You can see how "Establishment" a politician is by his list of bribers, whoops I meant donors. The bigger the donations by the richest donors is a great indicator of who owns a politician.

Foreign Donors Begin Pulling Out From Clinton Foundation | Observer

Look at the date. Many were giving money because they wanted to influence her, the ones pulling out had no humanitarian motives otherwise they would still be giving.

It now appears that Norway, one of the most prolific foreign Clinton Foundation donors, is decreasing its annual donation from $20 million in 2015 to $4.2 million this year?a significant drop suggesting the foreign government had expected to receive benefits in return for its generous donation. Norway?s move also provides further evidence that the Foundation serves more as a front to sell access to the Clintons than as an organization focused on philanthropy. While the Foundation may have conducted some charitable work, its greater purpose has always been to boost the Clinton brand, market the Clintons on the highly paid speech circuit, and offer donors access to the Clintons and their prolific network of elite and corporate connections.

Foreign Donors Begin Pulling Out From Clinton Foundation | Observer

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticised for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million.

This is why if Russia really wanted influence in the White it would have gone about it a very different way. Giving politicians money is easy and in America enshrined by the Supreme Court. All you do is pour money into the State or re-election funds.

Corruption in out political systems runs deeper than what's being revealed by chasing Trump. Most of the corruption is public knowledge.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Busty2

Chump should look to the WH and his own team for leaks, take the leak that came to light a few days ago about Chump thinking of firing Muller. So it looks like Muller has fired back. Now if Chump fires Muller he will seal his own fate ?

That wasn't a "leak". That was one of Trump's friends saying that Trump had considered firing him.

A "leak" is when an "anonymous source" gives information secretly to the media.
Going on a news show and saying it on live television isn't leaking.
That's turning on the spigot. lol

The "leaks" have come from deep state lifetime unelected bureaucrats such as Comey and other "officials".

It should worry you that the deep state of unelected bureaucrats are attempting to basically overthrow the duly elected President of The United States.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Comment of the day:

Thinking4
3:49 PM EDT
Trump's Brain Trust and co-President Bannon did not see this one coming

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

the deep state of unelected bureaucrats are attempting to basically overthrow the duly elected President of The United States.

We don't know the depth of Russia's tampering in our election. It's entirely possible Trump is not our "duly elected" POTUS , after all, Trump lost the popular vote by millions and has shown he's completely incompetent as a leader amongst men.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

All he had to do was sit back and let the investigations run their course. His ego wouldn't let him

It's a catch 22. He was most likely fucked either way. If he let the investigations run their course it would have dragged on for god only knows how long, and god only knows what they would have found. This is a large and serious investigation; They are looking into his business dealings and god only knows where that ends up.

He considers himself a fighter and his instinct is to fight back, and that's what he did.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Busty2

Chump should look to the WH and his own team for leaks, take the leak that came to light a few days ago about Chump thinking of firing Muller. So it looks like Muller has fired back. Now if Chump fires Muller he will seal his own fate ?

At the end of the day Chump is his own worst enemy, his constant Tweets undermine his own staff and he even contradicts himself on a daily basis. He is in a downward spiral unable to get anything done that he promised his sheep, all he can think about is what is happening to him. As always he couldn't give a shit about anyone else but himself !!

Yeah, I have a feeling that Trump is being fed information from a lot of sources, including a high ranking source in the FBI. This is "Deep Throat" all over again.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That wasn't a "leak". That was one of Drumpf's friends saying that Trump had considered firing him.

A "leak" is when an "anonymous source" gives information secretly to the media.
Going on a news show and saying it on live television isn't leaking.
That's turning on the spigot. lol

The "leaks" have come from deep state lifetime unelected bureaucrats such as Comey and other "officials".

It should worry you that the deep state of unelected bureaucrats are attempting to basically overthrow the duly elected President of The United States.

Yes, but there are different kinds of leaks.

When someone leaks classified information that person is breaking the law.

However, if the President is in the room with twenty other people and says something and it gets out into the press, is that a leak or it is someone telling the press what happened? If you and I have a conversation and I tell someone else, is that a leak?

A huge part of the problem here is that not everyone in the government supports Trump. In practice they "serve at the pleasure of the President" but a lot of people in the White House and the Intelligence Community do not feel this way. At the same time Trump has gone to war with the press and the intelligence community so Trump surely isn't going to get any support from them at all. Legal or illegal - Trump brought this on himself.

Because of Trump's utter lack of experience in politics he never noticed the ONLY two groups he cannot piss off is the press and the intelligence community.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Pence gets to play too...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...utside-counsel

Hiring an attorney is not an admission of guilt.
Pence Hires Veteran Washington Lawyer to Handle Russia Probe

Vice President Mike Pence has hired an outside legal counsel with deep experience in Washington to assist with the multiple investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

A Pence spokesman said the vice president retained Richard Cullen, chairman of McGuireWoods LLP, to deal with inquiries from House and Senate committees as well as those from Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the FBI?s Russia probe.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Pence gets to play too...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...utside-counsel

Hiring an attorney is not an admission of guilt.
Pence Hires Veteran Washington Lawyer to Handle Russia Probe

One of the Washington lawyers that turned down Trump, says a lot 😂

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

However, if the President is in the room with twenty other people and says something and it gets out into the press, is that a leak or it is someone telling the press what happened? If you and I have a conversation and I tell someone else, is that a leak?

I think that when a phone conversation between the leaders of two country's is "leaked" to the press...and turns out to be 100% FAKE NEWS and is debunked by both Trump and the leaders of the country's (who were the only two people on the phone)...that is called the deep state trying to fuck Trump over.

You're right...there are thousands of lifetime unelected bureaucrats working for the Federal Govt.
Trump was elected to stop them sucking on the govt. teat. He literally represents the end of their way of life.

And they are doing everything they can to "leak" information that hurts him...even if it's false info (like the majority of the fake news stories have all turned out to be).

This is a battle Rochard.
We the People VS. the Deep State of unelected bureaucrats who have been the real people running our govt. for decades.

I know you think you are doing the right thing because the media is controlled by the deep state and they are telling you outright lies.

But in reality...you are cheering on a corrupt establishment to take out the first President in our lifetime who isn't bought and paid for.
You can disagree with individual issues with Trump (which I do on many things)...but to just set your mind to HATE and be against everything he is trying to do is almost insane.

And that's what half the country appears to be: hateful, hysterical and insane over Trump.

It's the damndest thing I've ever seen. You should be cheering Trump on. But in this bizarro world the media and the bureaucrats have created...you are cheering for the people who have fucked our country up for decades.

I can only shake my head. You are actually now being mentioned in thread titles along with bladewire and crockett.
Is that REALLY the type of people you want your name and reputation to be associated with?

I know you aren't that kind of person.