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NALEM · 07-21-2017, 11:35 AM

OMG some of the advice here is pure crap.

OP, focus all your time, energy and attention on finding one open minded, financially motivated female with an outgoing and slightly rebelous personality to act as your recruiter/agent. Find that individual, and the models will flow in.

SpicyM · 07-21-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

OMG some of the advice here is pure crap.

OP, focus all your time, energy and attention on finding one open minded, financially motivated female with an outgoing and slightly rebelous personality to act as your recruiter/agent. Find that individual, and the models will flow in.

Oh look, a local expert has spoken

Paul Markham · 07-21-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sirkonstantine

LOL. If it works, I'll let you know about the agency.

I had three women working for me who all speak fluent Czech, plus a fully equipped studio and I could charm birds from the trees. And it did not work for me.

How much are you going to pay girls? $500 to $1,000 a day. good luck doing that with a newbie who had never thought of doing porn. On the other hand girls that do porn will do it for $500 to $1,000 a day.

Can you speak Czech?

Paul Markham · 07-21-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

Well, prostitution (selling sex by individuals on their own) is legal, running a brothel (pimping / profiting from prostitution) is not legal, but there are thousands of these places in form of private apartments.

I will tell that to the owners of all the brothels here.

Paul Markham · 07-21-2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

OMG some of the advice here is pure crap.

OP, focus all your time, energy and attention on finding one open minded, financially motivated female with an outgoing and slightly rebelous personality to act as your recruiter/agent. Find that individual, and the models will flow in.

And how much do you pay her? Think of an hourly wage as she won't be motivated after a day of getting turned down.

Why not go to one of the many agents in Czech? That's the simplest and easiest method yet for some reason you want to do it the way no one else has had success at doing it. Why is that?

SpicyM · 07-21-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I will tell that to the owners of all the brothels here.

They all know that

NALEM · 07-21-2017, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And how much do you pay her?

Paul, if previously shot models is good enough, absolutely go with the agency.

In our case, we were looking for fresh models never published before. Private agent/recruiter was best.

Recruiter received a % of what the model earned on each shoot, and when we were able to lock the model into a exclusive, whereby the model was on rev share, so was the recruiter.

Paul Markham · 07-21-2017, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NALEM

Paul, if previously shot models is good enough, absolutely go with the agency.

In our case, we were looking for fresh models never published before. Private agent/recruiter was best.

Recruiter received a % of what the model earned on each shoot, and when we were able to lock the model into a exclusive, whereby the model was on rev share, so was the recruiter.

We made our money shooting girls who had never done it before. The best way is to employ a person who speaks the local language and advertising. It can be one of the assistants or photographer if you don't have a wife.

rayadp05 · 07-22-2017, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

From my own experience, models are usually intelligent girls (at least those who I work with), since they understand the difference between prostitution and porn acting... while prostitutes are totally stupid, unreliable and impossible to work with. Most of them earn over 50e a day from their homes, untaxed (which is very good here), enjoying privacy and feeling safe as they are rarely alone ..why would they shoot public porn to earn a few extra per day of "hard work" with persons they don't know and outside their safe apartments?

For them it's hard work for low money compared to selling sex services, not to mention they are usually fugly and drugged.

I've never shot a prostitute before, at least to the best of my knowledge. I've explained my procedure in order to recruit models and I've been doing it for almost 13 years now. Why do they shoot with me? I would say because they are very real and extremely amateur girls that are looking for either the attention, money ...who knows? But they are certainly not street prostitutes. The vast majority of the models on my site have day jobs right around my local area.

Perhaps this is not the "typical" way of recruiting models, but it's the way I've always done it, and aside from going through only 1 agency and shooting roughly 15 of their models, there are nearly 270 amateur models on my website. The remaining models (approximately 255 amateur girls) were recruited by myself.

Paul Markham · 07-23-2017, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rayadp05

I've never shot a prostitute before, at least to the best of my knowledge. I've explained my procedure in order to recruit models and I've been doing it for almost 13 years now. Why do they shoot with me? I would say because they are very real and extremely amateur girls that are looking for either the attention, money ...who knows? But they are certainly not street prostitutes. The vast majority of the models on my site have day jobs right around my local area.

Perhaps this is not the "typical" way of recruiting models, but it's the way I've always done it, and aside from going through only 1 agency and shooting roughly 15 of their models, there are nearly 270 amateur models on my website. The remaining models (approximately 255 amateur girls) were recruited by myself.

Now try that method in a foreign country where you don't speak the language.

sirkonstantine · 07-23-2017, 10:40 AM

Ok. So, I was at the bar last night and meet a chick who was interested in modeling. It was pretty easy.

Since I'll be financing this new business from another business's cash flow, I'd rather keep the cost as low as possible for now; so, no agency or recruiter.

A pay site with only 1 video is... errr.... kinda pathetic so I'll film 4 videos first, then finance the next 12 films too (3 months worth of films)($8,000 total). Then, I'd have a clear idea if the pay site works out.

At $500/video, 1 video/week, and $20/month subscription, I need to get at least 113 subscribers in 3 months!!!

Wish me luck!

Paul Markham · 07-24-2017, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sirkonstantine

Ok. So, I was at the bar last night and meet a chick who was interested in modeling. It was pretty easy.

Since I'll be financing this new business from another business's cash flow, I'd rather keep the cost as low as possible for now; so, no agency or recruiter.

A pay site with only 1 video is... errr.... kinda pathetic so I'll film 4 videos first, then finance the next 12 films too (3 months worth of films)($8,000 total). Then, I'd have a clear idea if the pay site works out.

At $500/video, 1 video/week, and $20/month subscription, I need to get at least 113 subscribers in 3 months!!!

Wish me luck!

Good luck with that. Go invest the money in a titty bar. As a customer. It will save you the time!!

sirkonstantine · 07-24-2017, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Good luck with that. Go invest the money in a titty bar. As a customer. It will save you the time!!

Ok naysayer.

Have you ever though for a minute that something could be done totally better than how you've been doing it? It doesn't mean that how you've been doing it is/was wrong, it just means that my business objectives are different than yours, which results in different SOPs and hence a different recruitment process.

Also, since you mention titty bar, one of the benefits of working for an amateur film company that recruits models from bars, clubs, strip clubs, and wherever else is that the bar, club, strip club, etc trips count as business expenses; so, yeah, instead of spending my post-tax money at the bar or club or titty bar or whatever, I'll have a Recruitment Fund, which I'll use on my nights out.

Pretty awesome!

SpicyM · 07-24-2017, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rayadp05

I've never shot a prostitute before, at least to the best of my knowledge. I've explained my procedure in order to recruit models and I've been doing it for almost 13 years now. Why do they shoot with me? I would say because they are very real and extremely amateur girls that are looking for either the attention, money ...who knows? But they are certainly not street prostitutes. The vast majority of the models on my site have day jobs right around my local area.

Perhaps this is not the "typical" way of recruiting models, but it's the way I've always done it, and aside from going through only 1 agency and shooting roughly 15 of their models, there are nearly 270 amateur models on my website. The remaining models (approximately 255 amateur girls) were recruited by myself.

The situation is different in Europe.

The central-European countries are very small compared to the whole USA and each country has different culture, different language, mentality, traditions. You can't compare that. The girls here are much more concerned about privacy and they often live with parents till 25.

I believe this is ineffective - like buying unfiltered traffic to promote a niche specific site. It would be much more effective to use ads and only target girls that are somehow interested in photo modeling - then select out those who want to do nude/erotic stuff. Models that only do non nude might still change their mind if the offer is well paid.

SpicyM · 07-24-2017, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sirkonstantine

A pay site with only 1 video is... errr.... kinda pathetic so I'll film 4 videos first, then finance the next 12 films too (3 months worth of films)($8,000 total). Then, I'd have a clear idea if the pay site works out.

You want to open the paysite with just 4 videos?

Paul Markham · 07-24-2017, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sirkonstantine

Ok naysayer.

Have you ever though for a minute that something could be done totally better than how you've been doing it? It doesn't mean that how you've been doing it is/was wrong, it just means that my business objectives are different than yours, which results in different SOPs and hence a different recruitment process.

Also, since you mention titty bar, one of the benefits of working for an amateur film company that recruits models from bars, clubs, strip clubs, and wherever else is that the bar, club, strip club, etc trips count as business expenses; so, yeah, instead of spending my post-tax money at the bar or club or titty bar or whatever, I'll have a Recruitment Fund, which I'll use on my nights out.

Pretty awesome!

Not just me, nearly everyone in the business.

SpicyM · 08-04-2017, 03:30 PM

Bump.. any luck so far?

Paul Markham · 08-05-2017, 12:21 AM

How's it working out sirkonstantine?

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CrazyMartin · 08-05-2017, 05:59 AM

Poland??? haha
i wish you luck

polish girls are very shy for such work

but try this
https://www.maxmodels.pl/modelka.htm...pe%5D%5B%5D=10

i select nudity for you

better go to czech, ukraine, slovakia or hungary

INever · 08-05-2017, 09:13 AM

Start with modelmayhem, craigslist, and other websites, before exposing yourself on the street.
Just say "nudity", and then filter from those responses.

SpicyM · 08-05-2017, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin

Poland??? haha
i wish you luck

polish girls are very shy for such work

but try this
https://www.maxmodels.pl/modelka.htm...pe%5D%5B%5D=10

i select nudity for you

better go to czech, ukraine, slovakia or hungary

Do you live in Poland? Looking for scouts

07-21-2017, 11:35 AM	#51
NALEM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Where ever Delta flies Posts: 3,134	OMG some of the advice here is pure crap. OP, focus all your time, energy and attention on finding one open minded, financially motivated female with an outgoing and slightly rebelous personality to act as your recruiter/agent. Find that individual, and the models will flow in. __________________ "The time men spend in trying to impress others they could spend in doing the things by which others would be impressed."

08-05-2017, 12:21 AM	#68
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08-05-2017, 09:13 AM	#71
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07-23-2017, 10:40 AM	#61
sirkonstantine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 281	Ok. So, I was at the bar last night and meet a chick who was interested in modeling. It was pretty easy. Since I'll be financing this new business from another business's cash flow, I'd rather keep the cost as low as possible for now; so, no agency or recruiter. A pay site with only 1 video is... errr.... kinda pathetic so I'll film 4 videos first, then finance the next 12 films too (3 months worth of films)($8,000 total). Then, I'd have a clear idea if the pay site works out. At $500/video, 1 video/week, and $20/month subscription, I need to get at least 113 subscribers in 3 months!!! Wish me luck!

08-04-2017, 03:30 PM	#67
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,534	Bump.. any luck so far?

08-05-2017, 04:23 AM	#69
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08-05-2017, 05:59 AM	#70
CrazyMartin Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 338	Poland??? haha i wish you luck polish girls are very shy for such work but try this https://www.maxmodels.pl/modelka.htm...pe%5D%5B%5D=10 i select nudity for you better go to czech, ukraine, slovakia or hungary