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Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Oh please do, educate me on some twitter law.

It's not about me it's about official communications from the Whitehouse, and the law, and how the Whitehouse itself defines the tweets. What's wrong with you?

onwebcam · 07-27-2017, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

What's wrong with you?

Not as easily offended or gullible as you?

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Not as easily offended or gullible as you?

Feel free to goto the whitehouse.gov link and educate yourself.

GAMEFINEST · 07-27-2017, 11:41 AM

I still get the purpose of this at all..

onwebcam · 07-27-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Feel free to goto the whitehouse.gov link and educate yourself.

I did. Sorry I'm not digging through 3 pages of policy postings to find this mystery "twitter is law/order"
Feel free to educate me when you find it/can back up your claim besides something Spicer said.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

I did. Sorry I'm not digging through 3 pages of policy postings to find this mystery "twitter is law/order"

You can go here too Donald Trump's tweets are now presidential records

onwebcam · 07-27-2017, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You can go here too Donald Trump's tweets are now presidential records

Presidential record is recording and preserving.

Try again.

TheSquealer · 07-27-2017, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

The armed forces is a patriot thing, not a liberal vs conservative thing. Thats a fucked up stereotype you've concocted there

Uhm... no,its not. It's a "build the most effective fighting force possible" thing. Thats why people are not allowed to join the armed forces for a large variety of reasons.... regardless of whether or not they call themselves "patriot" or no.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Uhm... no,its not. It's a "build the most effective fighting force possible" thing. Thats why people are not allowed to join the armed forces for a large variety of reasons.... regardless of whether or not they call themselves "patriot" or no.

The armed forces is not a liberal vs conservative thing. Fact

If you think non patriots put their lives on the line in the armed forces then you don't respect America or those who serve.

Trying to selectively choose who YOU feel is a patriot in the military is a complete bitch move.

TheSquealer · 07-27-2017, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

The armed forces is not a liberal vs conservative thing. Fact

If you think non patriots put their lives on the line in the armed forces then you don't respect America or those who serve.

Trying to selectively choose who YOU feel is a patriot in the military is a complete bitch move.

I'm saying that "patriotic" is irrelevant to what goes into developing an effective fighting force. i'm sure lots of midgets are fiercely patriotic.

As i said, the military discriminates as it is for this very reason.

Furthermore, "patriotic" absolutely is a conservative vs liberal thing. Conservatives are far more sensitive to group loyalty and associated symbolism (tribe, community, city, state, country etc) as well as threats to the group and security than Liberals who have a very dim sensitivity or none at all to these issues (see Jonathan Haidt and "moral matrices").

Granted there is a scale like everything but it's not EVER conservatives burning flags, aiding and comforting and defending the enemy or calling soldiers baby killers.... FACT.

Suicide rates alone on Trannies is troubling... but of course, in everyone's quest for a flawed perception of justice, no one actually cares about deaths that are happening right now to that very group.

U.S. Transgender Survey: Largest Study of Its Kind Comes Out | Time.com

... "National Center for Transgender Equality survey

The U.S. Transgender Survey found that a whopping 40 percent of trans people have attempted suicide, compared to just 4.6 percent of the general population. That is, a trans person is more than eight times more likely to try to kill themselves than a non-trans person. "

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Then it's about education? - Blacks on the front-line where frowned upon - It happened anyway and now it's normal - In fact it's encouraged...

Social change will happen - It's happened all your LONG life

- Get used to it Paul.....

Agreed. But don't educate people while they're meant to be fighting in wars.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

No, as a matter of fact I do not see the difference. A woman can pull a trigger just as easily as a man can on the battlefield.

I have lots of friends in the US military, and a lot of them are women. One of them was a medic, and she spent a lot of her time in combat in Afghanistan. She did her job and came back alive. She saved lives. You can't tell me she is not as qualified to serve as I am.

Precisely, she's a medic.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You don't feel safe with a Gay man, even if he's white?

That's your own emotional problem Paul and has nothing to do with reality.

I feel perfectly safe with a gay man. I'm not on the frontline.

EddyTheDog · 07-27-2017, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Precisely, she's a medic.

Medic's are very much on the front line - So are are the nurses that you mentioned earlier in the thread...

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Uhm... no,its not. It's a "build the most effective fighting force possible" thing. Thats why people are not allowed to join the armed forces for a large variety of reasons.... regardless of whether or not they call themselves "patriot" or no.

All that goes out the window when the PC brigade gets to town.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Medic's are very much on the front line - So are are the nurses that you mentioned earlier in the thread...

With big burly men protecting them.

Ask the serving soldiers what they would prefer, a medic who is a man or a woman? And don't come back with a 200lb burly woman who can drag a wounded soldier off a battle field.

You're playing with people's lives here to make a point.

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Agreed. But don't educate people while they're meant to be fighting in wars.

You're so full of contradictions.

You're making any bullshitt excuse to discriminate. It's good that what you think doesn't matter, you can't vote in America. I can, and do

EddyTheDog · 07-27-2017, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With big burly men protecting them.

Ask the serving soldiers what they would prefer, a medic who is a man or a woman? And don't come back with a 200lb burly woman who can drag a wounded soldier off a battle field.

You're playing with people's lives here to make a point.

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

You are sounding like an ass - You lost your point about 2 pages back - Give it up...

escorpio · 07-27-2017, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

She may be as qualified to serve as you are but I doubt that you are qualified to serve. Unless she is a bull dyke and is full of testosterone she is not 100% capable of performing her role in the MOS as a medic. She is not capable of carrying or dragging a 200 lb man out of harms way in order to treat him.

The military allows women to serve in many MOS's that they are not 100% qualified to serve in. I have many friends that have served and are still serving and all have testified to this fact. Just as another example; women are allowed the MOS for driving a truck but they cannot perform 100% of all that is involved in that MOS, the average woman driver cannot change a tire on a duece and a half, she cannot lift five gallon Jerry cans of gas to put gas into the truck, she cannot load or off load much of what is carried on the truck.

A woman is allowed the MOS of being a Micro Wave Systems Operator and they cannot perform 100% of all that is involved in that MOS. They cannot lift the 5 gallon Jerry cans of gas to fill the Generators. The majority of them cannot use the heavy sledge hammers to pound the long heavy iron stakes in for the guide wires on the Micro Dishes.

Men in these MOS's have to be able to perform all of these feats in order to obtain the MOS. They brass turn their heads when it comes to women being able to meet the requirements of the MOS. There really are very few MOS's in the military that women can perform 100% of the requirements.

Men have to go out of their way to assist women in performing the duties required of the MOS that PC allows them to serve in. Men cannot act like men or talk like men when women are serving in MOS's that they are not actually qualified to server in.

One of my friends, an NCO, was an instructor for summer drills for West Point Cadets. Women are now allowed to serve at the Point. My friend was on the firing range as an instructor when the cadets were firing .50 Cal's MG's. A female cadet could not clear her MG when it jammed. She asked my friend to clear it for her. He told her no that he would not that she had been trained on that procedure and to clear it herself. He then went on to say something along the lines of, if you can't don't worry about it, you won't ever be required to use one in combat anyhow.

She reported him and he was reprimanded not for not helping her but for "Sexual Harassment" and this went into his jacket. In addition he was removed from being an instructor for the Cadets. He did not mind that so much but a permanent black mark on his record for "Sexual Harassment" pissed him off and when his enlistment was up after 12 years in the service he did not reenlist.

The powers that be should never have done away with the WAC's and over women's branches. The WAC's could all perform their MOS's 100%.

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

The United States military has ALWAYS been the catalyst for social change. There have been books written about this very subject. Blacks, women, and then gays - the US military always led the way.

I'm sure it has, but too much progressivism and it ceases to be "change". Hillary wouldn't have been the first of anything; she would've been four more years of more of the same.

The change is the pushback. There will be many young white males entering the military now who have ideas that are much more aligned with Trump.

Like it or not, straight white males remain the core of the military in most Western countries. These men I'm sure find it much easier to submit to authority than "me me me" trannies who won't leave their personal drama at the door

EddyTheDog · 07-27-2017, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

I'm sure it has, but too much progressivism and it ceases to be "change". Hillary wouldn't have been the first of anything; she would've been four more years of more of the same.

The change is the pushback. There will be many young white males entering the military now who have ideas that are much more aligned with Trump.

Like it or not, straight white males remain the core of the military in most Western countries. These men I'm sure find it much easier to submit to authority than "me me me" trannies who won't leave their personal drama at the door

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All that goes out the window when the PC brigade gets to town.

"Liberty and justice for all" is part of our pledge of allegiance in America, it's not a "politically correct" (PC) far left European drum beat.

I'm pretty sure you've rented your GFY account out to someone at this point.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

90% of the guys I film are straight military and it's much easier to get them in front of the camera than it used to be

Tasty1 · 07-27-2017, 02:44 PM

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

EddyTheDog · 07-27-2017, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

I see what you are saying - Male, female, gay, str8 or trans...

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

I don't disagree with anything you said. I just have a different perspective on it. You're seeing it from the individual's point of view, which is how I used to see it, but now I take more of an overview about retaining the strength of the institution.

I think that there are certain 'forces', namely the media, who are working constantly to weaken and undermine strong, formerly-white institutions, which is ironic when you consider who the US military will be fighting proxy wars for. A tranny turned down for being a drama queen may then go to the media, who will then shame the military, call it discriminatory and bigtoed etc, which undermines public confidence in the institution. A straight white male turned down for the same reason would probably go away, lick his wounds, work on himself and not kick up a fuss.

Also, I wasn't implying that all young white males are 'intolerant'. I meant that they're more conscious of themselves as 'young white males' than they were in the past, and this may harden their attitudes somewhat. The emerging generation is much more conservative than previous ones, although obviously that's not true of everyone.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

A tranny turned down for being a drama queen may then go to the media, who will then shame the military, and therein lies the problem. A straight white male turned down for the same reason would probably go away, lick his wounds, work on himself and not kick up a fuss.

So you stereotype trannies as media whores and straight guys as "licking their wounds", "working on themselves" and not "kicking up a fuss".

GFY is a sesspool of whining bitching straight guys kicking up a fuss making excuses for their failures you're funny

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

So you stereotype trannies as media whores and straight guys as "licking their wounds", "working on themselves" and not "kicking up a fuss".

GFY is a sesspool of whining bitching straight guys kicking up a fuss making excuses for their failures you're funny

I'm done with giving a fuck about being called a 'stereotyper' or a '-phobe' etc. It's a dying language.

Like I said above, although in a slightly different context, it's obviously not true of every individual.

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 05:31 PM

Just to elaborate on a couple of things I posted above, with regard to the individual vs the collective.

I think that the nature of transgenderism makes it primarily focused on the individual, and the struggles that go on within the individual. This in my view makes it entirely separate from being gay, lesbian or bi, even if it is considered part of the same community. You won't find me arguing that gay, lesbian or bi people don't belong in the military, but I think that there are specific issues with being transgender that conflict with what is expected of a soldier. To feel like you've been born in the wrong body must be a horrible thing, and must surely take up the vast majority of your thinking time. I find it hard to understand how an individual with such an internal struggle, would prioritize war and comradeship over this struggle.

Also, 'stereotyping' comes down to the same thing. Making group observations and conclusions is bad, because everyone's an individual and some individuals may deviate from the group norm. So science is bad, and to prove the point they'll put a guy who at the very least LOOKS like a pedo as "the science guy". This is all done by design, and is only ever aimed at white people. Show me another race that has been atomized down to "a collection of individuals" and I'll back down.

Anyways, I'm done. Have a good night everyone

slapass · 07-27-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

With big burly men protecting them.

Ask the serving soldiers what they would prefer, a medic who is a man or a woman? And don't come back with a 200lb burly woman who can drag a wounded soldier off a battle field.

You're playing with people's lives here to make a point.

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Só you are ok with gays now? Glad you changed your tune as that was pathetic before.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

It's more about being willing to die to not end up like China or Iran

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What next, Chiawawa Guard dogs on military sites?

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 06:43 PM

^^^ Hates Jews and stereotypes everyone else

Rochard · 07-27-2017, 06:51 PM

I am friends with the local Marine recruiter, and he is big on recruiting women to join the Marines. At first I was a little skeptical about it. Then I saw these women come back from boot camp and they were full fledged Marines. The chicks go from high school cheerleaders and after boot camp they have the same warrior ethic all Marines have. It's amazing.

If you can get through boot camp, you earn the right to serve. Period.

oppoten · 07-27-2017, 07:12 PM

oops, nearly forgot

EddyTheDog · 07-27-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten

oops, nearly forgot

That's fucking divine!..

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're so full of contradictions.

You're making any bullshitt excuse to discriminate. It's good that what you think doesn't matter, you can't vote in America. I can, and do

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You are sounding like an ass - You lost your point about 2 pages back - Give it up...

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I am happy that the 'me me me' trannies are left at the recruiting booth - Like anyone not suitable - There are however many that will serve with honors - You might also be surprised how many of those 'young white males' are far more tolerant than you would seem to believe...

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

90% of the guys I film are straight military and it's much easier to get them in front of the camera than it used to be

So maybe we shouldn't allow them in on the basis they would be fucking each other.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

"Liberty and justice for all" is part of our pledge of allegiance in America, it's not a "politically correct" (PC) far left European drum beat.

I'm pretty sure you've rented your GFY account out to someone at this point.

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So maybe we shouldn't allow them in on the basis they would be fucking each other.

We've allowed them. Europe has allowed them. No problems.

Break free Paul and have faith 💓

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I am friends with the local Marine recruiter, and he is big on recruiting women to join the Marines. At first I was a little skeptical about it. Then I saw these women come back from boot camp and they were full fledged Marines. The chicks go from high school cheerleaders and after boot camp they have the same warrior ethic all Marines have. It's amazing.

If you can get through boot camp, you earn the right to serve. Period.

Your anecdotal stories aren't relevant.

Paul Markham · 07-27-2017, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

We've allowed them. Europe has allowed them. No problems.

Break free Paul and have faith 💓

Yes Europe is more PC fucked than the US. Your point was?

King Mark · 07-27-2017, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix

He transitioned after he retired from the military.

And that's how it should be. Transition before or after, not during.

Bladewire · 07-27-2017, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Yes Europe is more PC fucked than the US. Your point was?

Open your mind Paul.

Reality has shown no more issues with them than allowing blacks.

BaldBastard · 07-27-2017, 10:19 PM

Nothing is surer from this thread than Ruskis are more scared of a pack of mad trannies running at them than anything.

You know the USA has a special gay torture unit where all your captured soldiers will spend time.? They don't have guns just batons, bigger the baton the higher the rank..

Poor Eddy still gets a lil one.

Let the ISIS know its straight to the bathhouse if captured and they put down their weapons and run, face it if you fight... your wanting it.

Paul Markham · 07-28-2017, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Open your mind Paul.

Reality has shown no more issues with them than allowing blacks.

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

pimpmaster9000 · 07-28-2017, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What is it that's so wrong about asking the men on the frontline and letting them decide? Rather a bunch of keyboard warriors?

It's their lives you're playing with.

Who gives a shit what mercenaries think? They are there for the money and not for "country" LOL

MiamiBoyz · 07-28-2017, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

i think the transgenders must be stupid.
Just like the man and woman.

Willing to die for some oil in 95% of the cases.
Must be something wrong with them all.

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oppoten NAME THE JEW Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,793	Just to elaborate on a couple of things I posted above, with regard to the individual vs the collective. I think that the nature of transgenderism makes it primarily focused on the individual, and the struggles that go on within the individual. This in my view makes it entirely separate from being gay, lesbian or bi, even if it is considered part of the same community. You won't find me arguing that gay, lesbian or bi people don't belong in the military, but I think that there are specific issues with being transgender that conflict with what is expected of a soldier. To feel like you've been born in the wrong body must be a horrible thing, and must surely take up the vast majority of your thinking time. I find it hard to understand how an individual with such an internal struggle, would prioritize war and comradeship over this struggle. Also, 'stereotyping' comes down to the same thing. Making group observations and conclusions is bad, because everyone's an individual and some individuals may deviate from the group norm. So science is bad, and to prove the point they'll put a guy who at the very least LOOKS like a pedo as "the science guy". This is all done by design, and is only ever aimed at white people. Show me another race that has been atomized down to "a collection of individuals" and I'll back down. Anyways, I'm done. Have a good night everyone

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BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,918	Nothing is surer from this thread than Ruskis are more scared of a pack of mad trannies running at them than anything. You know the USA has a special gay torture unit where all your captured soldiers will spend time.? They don't have guns just batons, bigger the baton the higher the rank.. Poor Eddy still gets a lil one. Let the ISIS know its straight to the bathhouse if captured and they put down their weapons and run, face it if you fight... your wanting it.