Japan split over how to deal with North Korean

[brassmonkey]

(CNN) - Residents in northern Japan were woken abruptly Friday by blaring air raid sirens signaling a North Korean intermediate-range ballistic missile was about to fly over their heads.
It was the second time in just over two weeks the rogue state had fired a projectile over Japanese territory, a provocation which was immediately condemned by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.
The missile passed over the northern island of Hokkaido where anxious residents told local media they didn't understand why North Korea was acting so antagonistically.

But CNN's Tokyo producer Yoko Wakatsuki said broader reaction in Tokyo and across national media was more measured.
"People know what North Korea is doing is a little bit of provocation ... they know this is not a direct attack to Japan, it's not an overture to war," CNN Tokyo producer Yoko Wakatsuki said.

But underneath the calm exterior, Friday's launch has widened a growing fault line in the ideological war over how Japan should deal with the North Korean threat to the region.
Abe's government have sought closer ties with the United States while working to change Japan's post- World War Two constitution, to allow the country to actively defend itself against external threats.
But Koichi Nakano, Political Science professor at Sophia University, told CNN Abe's opponents are angry their supposed ally in Washington was making Japan less safe under President Trump and want to soften their ties to the US, while upholding their nation's pacifist values.
"The danger of North Korea has been if anything heightened after Trump came to power (due to) his sometimes really provocative language and tweets. He's not really helping that much," he said.
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[2MuchMark]

I wonder what would happen of UN decided to test a fly-over like that over Guam? Or the US?

[pimpmaster9000]

how about leaving them alone?

[Barry-xlovecam]

I wonder what would happen if a hostile threatening nation shot a ballistic missile over Canada, the UK, Germany or France ... Or, over Russia, China or some other nuclear armed nation?

Get my point?

[MrBottomTooth]

They need carpet-bombed.

[Rochard]

The problem is Japan has a strict policy of "non intervention" and has completely changed itself from what it was at the close of WWII. This has been sixty years of this policy, and they surely do not wish to change it.

At the same time having missiles flying over their country is not acceptable either.

[Barry-xlovecam]

https://www.defensenews.com/breaking...ary-agreement/

Update 2015:
US, Japan Strike New Military Agreement

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

how about leaving them alone?

it will be boring

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Sarn

it will be boring

...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

They need carpet-bombed.

Time for some North Korean BBQ

[ilnjscb]

Clock ticking - we have 16 months

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Clock ticking - we have 16 months

What's in 16 months?

[Paul Markham]

Sanctions against China are the only way.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Sanctions against China are the only way.

The amazing disgrace of our $20T national debt
The amazing disgrace of our $20T national debt | New York Post

China is America's biggest creditor once again
The Treasury Department has ranked China as the biggest foreign creditor to the U.S. for the overwhelming majority of the past nine years.

China's vast holdings of U.S. government debt jumped $44 billion to $1.15 trillion in June, according to U.S. Treasury Department data. That took China above Japan, which offloaded $21 billion in U.S. bonds in the month.
China is America's biggest creditor once again - Aug. 16, 2017

[Barry-xlovecam]

Old news, America bad Russia good Fuck you

Actually, its good because the Chinese Investment can be held 'hostage' at any time

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Old news, America good Russia good Fuck you too

Actually, its good because the Chinese Investment can be held 'hostage' at any time

America good Russia good Fuck you too )
After taking "hostage" China's money - it destroys US finance institutions reputation

[loreen]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Clock ticking - we have 16 months

The end is coming?

[Barry-xlovecam]

You won't have to worry about Russia's finance industry's reputation world wide -- CCD rated :P

I think he is counting the days until the US mid-term elections. Often the congressional majority flips to the opposition party in the US.

It's a lose-lose for Trump right now. Either way he will accomplish nothing but rally a lot of Americans to act in anger -- his is a toxic Presidency like Nixon's was.

[Nitzer Ebb]

Why are they not shooting it down? Isn't there NATO ships?

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

You won't have to worry about Russia's finance industry's reputation world wide -- CCD rated :P

But USA without me destroy own finance and political sector

Venezuela publishes oil prices in Chinese currency to shun U.S. dollar
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1BQ2D1

[pimpmaster9000]

Solution to North Korean problem:

Leave them alone...

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Solution to North Korean problem:
Leave them alone...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Keep poking him with a sharp stick until he fucks up big-time.

He's a troll with a hydrogen bomb and needs to be terminated (<period>)

The Chinese may put a bullet in his head in the end -- wait and see ...

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Keep poking him with a sharp stick until he fucks up big-time.

He's a troll with a hydrogen bomb and needs to be terminated (<period>)

The Chinese may put a bullet in his head in the end -- wait and see ...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sarn

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

What's in 16 months?

He has internal issues. He will push the envelope too far, and already Iran and others are seeing that he gets away with being a nuclear power. US will be forced to respond. Because democrats nuked our potential good relationship with Russia for political games, US has to go it alone.

We will not be able to back down. Best case is fuck with his country until he does something stupid, then decapitate him. Best case never happens.