Shocking news reveals Hillary Clinton paid for Russia dossier

[Matt 26z]

Mainstream news. Not conspiracy theory. Hillary paid foreign agents to interfere in the US election......



The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump?s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.

Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.

After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS?s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS?s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e0cd537efddc

[mineistaken]

As crooked as it gets.

[2MuchMark]

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

Nice assumption (you realize that said republican paid in order to get dirt, so yeah, he dropped it after he got what he wanted) trying to deflect

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

As crooked as it gets.

I don't think anyone expected this.

And now it looks like John Podesta will end up in some trouble for working with Manafort and Russia.

Zero evidence supporting Trump worked with Russia. And now actual factual evidence that Hillary and her people are the guilty ones.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Nice assumption (you realize that said republican paid in order to get dirt, so yeah, he dropped it after he got what he wanted) trying to deflect

Lol.

From
Report: Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research - CNNPolitics

CNN previously reported Fusion GPS's anti-Trump research was initially funded by anti-Trump Republicans during the GOP primaries, and Democrats began paying the research firm later on, after Trump became the presumptive nominee. The Washington Post reports that Fusion GPS hired Steele after the Democratic funding began and the general election picture grew clearer.

You should also read Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

Prison, baby!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Lol.

From
Report: Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research - CNNPolitics



You should also read Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

This is the water.
And this is the well.
Drink full and descend.
The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.

Huh? I did not deny that anti trump republican may have ordered it first.

I laughed at your statement that said republicans dropped the order as soon as they "found out what they did not like". You realize that said republicans would have loved to find "what they did not like", not the other way around?

Anti trump republicans: lets hire investigator to find dirt on Trump.
Investigator: hey, I found what you were looking for - dirt on trump.
Anti Trump republican: oh, we do not like dirt on Trump, lets drop the order.

[Matt 26z]

Hillary's press secretary says the firm contacted the Hillary campaign saying they had interesting information. Hillary paid for it.

(Then of course it leaked to Buzzfeed.... put one and one together with that)

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

It looks like republicans found out something they didn't want to know about Trump (hint:Pee!), and dropped it before the DNC picked it up.

You guy's going to prison.

They figured out the company/report was a sham. Hillary and co didn't care. It will come out that McCain was in on the first round of funding. He was the first Republican Senator trying to sell it.

[beerptrol]

The guy who did the research has more credibility than chump, Not to mentions things have been independently verified to be true in that report

[JuicyBunny]

Bad week for Billary now that Congress also investigating Uranium One deal where FBI found that bribes were paid, in the millions to a certain.... No conspiracy theories from FBI.

[BaldBastard]

Even if Hillary paid for it from her pocket money I can't see what the issue would be, Fusion GPS is a private company, not a foreign Government.

What's always has mattered is the content of the dossier, which basically says team Trump was directly working with the Russian Government.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

The guy who did the research has more credibility than chump, Not to mentions things have been independently verified to be true in that report

So much credibility that he went into hiding.

So what you're saying is, if the story reflects your beliefs you take the entire story as truth. If it doesn't reflect your beliefs the entire story is false..

No one has ever claimed the entire "intelligence report" was false. What they did and what anyone with half a brain would do is take factual information and toss in some headline grabbing false. All with the hopes of ruining Trumps election bid. When that didn't work they tossed their mole Manafort under the bus. Next they will throw Obama under the bus. And/or take us all down with them.

[tony286]

So The Washington Post is fake news til you see something you like? Thats how it works. lol Newsflash Hilary isn't President .

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by tony286

So The Washington Post is fake news til you see something you like? Thats how it works. lol Newsflash Hilary isn't President .

They are forced to report on it. Do you still not understand how this works?

Quick rundown.

MSM does no research. They only read lines they are fed. If their puppeteer doesn't give them the lines or if they try to stray away from the flock then they no longer have a job.

Alt media by the thousands maybe even millions are beating the pavement and web doing actual research. In turn scooping MSM in some cases by years because they refuse to report on it. Their refusal leads people like you to believe anything they don't tell you is "conspiracy theory" that is until they are forced to report on it. Which is what we see here.

Again this story isn't new. I've talked about this right here on this forum... And likely called a "nutter" by people like yourself at the time.

[RedFred]

McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RedFred

McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele's "professionalism and integrity".[17] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[15][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...Russia_dossier

hmmm. How much you want to bet part of that story isn't true? Who do you think the wealthy Republican was that first funded it? Another Presidential contender perhaps? One who seems as hell bent on getting at Trump as the other losers?

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Shortly after the presidential election, Senator John McCain, who had been informed about the alleged links between Kremlin and Trump, met with former British ambassador to Moscow Sir Andrew Wood. Wood confirmed the existence of the dossier and vouched for Steele's "professionalism and integrity".[17] McCain obtained the dossier from David J. Kramer and took it directly to FBI director James Comey on December 9, 2016.[15][14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...Russia_dossier

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by RedFred

McCain: I like Presidents who weren't pissed on by underage hookers.

Come on.. This is pathetic.

Mark,

You did get owned by old boys reply above explaining that failed logic of yours.

Please guys (on both sides) just start making some concessions about shit instead of appearing pathetic by constantly agreeing with your team.

As per the Washington Post fake news irony comment.. Liberals only accept news from their "trusted" outlets.. The guy is showing you evidence from your preferred mouth piece. Now your trying to dismiss it?

[RedFred]

TRUMP AND COMEY TALKED RUSSIAN 'HOOKERS' AND 'GOLDEN SHOWER' SCANDAL

[BaldBastard]

Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund research that led to salacious Trump dossier | Fox News

DNC "helped" fund
helped.. that's an interesting way of putting it..
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"It also wasn?t known who in those organizations knew about the roles of both Steele and Fusion GPS"

Interesting Choice of words
--

"Meanwhile, Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS founder, already gave a 10-hour interview to the Senate Judiciary Committee."

So ten hours of nothing burgers, 10 hours?.. that would be considered torture wouldn't it??
--

"But let?s be clear, there is a serious federal investigation into the Trump campaign?s ties to Russia, and the American public deserves to know what happened.?

Hence we have Mueller

If one thing in the said Dossier was proved to be true, and I believe there's been several, wouldn't the person who arranged it be hailed as a national hero?

[Rochard]

Both sides do opposition research. Nothing illegal about it at all, nothing wrong with it at all. In fact, I thought was already well known as fact - the DNC / Hillary Campaign was first to order up and pay for the research, and then once it uncovered what it did the FBI was called in.

Once again the Republican party is taking a single fact and trying to put a negative spin on it, implying it was illegal when it wasn't.

But now that we have this information, we should investigate if Hillary Clinton did anything illegal here. Let's investigate. In the process we'll have to investigate every aspect of the dossier to see how much of it is true. Wasn't it thirty pages long? Whew. That will be a lot of investigating to do. I'm not sure about anyone else but I am really interested to know if there was any truth to Trump pissing on hookers in a Moscow hotel room. I will also be interested to know if the Russians have any blackmail material on Trump.

If the Republican party wants to put this front and center, let's put it front and center. Let's have the dirty details of this dossier front page news for the next ten months.

[BaldBastard]

Even if the piss tapes came to light I highly doubt Trump would lose a single vote, that's sort of been proved in the past month with Trumps reaction to current events.

So who would it effect? who does not want more sanctions placed on them and who is up for election next year?

Mmm ponder on that..

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Even if the piss tapes came to light I highly doubt Drumpf would lose a single vote, that's sort of been proved in the past month with Trumps reaction to current events.

So who would it effect? who does not want more sanctions placed on them and who is up for election next year?

Mmm ponder on that..

I disagree. Republicans are getting tired of this. Another one dropped today, and had some verbal vomit today.

[NewNick]

Again I find myself looking at the date of the OP ?

Why are you fighting the election again ?

Why is the base getting fed infos on Hillary to get them all riled ?

Hillary lost ?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

"But let’s be clear, there is a serious federal investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, and the American public deserves to know what happened.”

Hence we have Mueller

If one thing in the said Dossier was proved to be true, and I believe there's been several, wouldn't the person who arranged it be hailed as a national hero?

You think he's going after Trump. What he's really doing is an entirely different thing. He's exonerating the sitting President and then going after the real perps. One of which has tarnished even his own reputation.. It's the only logical course. If he takes down a bunch of Democrats with an entire Democratic staff then how are you going to complain about it?

Why would he be a national hero for compiling information freely available to anyone? Pretty much everything in it can be found online. Then he just tossed in some BS and made it look like he actually did something more than that so he could earn his paycheck.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You think he's going after Drumpf. What he's really doing is an entirely different thing. He's exonerating the sitting President and then going after the real perps. One of which has tarnished even his own reputation.. It's the only logical course. If he takes down a bunch of Democrats with an entire Democratic staff then how are you going to complain about it?

Why would he be a national hero for compiling information freely available to anyone? Pretty much everything in it can be found online. Then he just tossed in some BS and made it look like he actually did something more than that so he could earn his paycheck.

So far the only investigating into Democrats involves Podesta Group. This seems to be routine. This company is owned by Tony Podesta, the brother of Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta. The work they did for Ukraine involved creating closer relations between Ukraine and Europe, which was a goal of the US government. There is really nothing illegal about this at all.

This seems to be tied into Manafort. However, these two items seems to be completely different. Manafort worked for the former President, which was more or less supported and funded by Moscow. The work the Podesta Group did was unrelated, and for a different Ukrainian government - this was a pro US and pro Europe Ukrainian government.

But by all means let's investigate this until we know exactly what happened. Let's continue investigating this no matter where it leads, and let's pull every string.

[BaldBastard]

What's VERY important today and something every American needs to know is that Trump got Multiple standing ovations, forget everything else going on, or details about anything.. Multiple standing ovations to dear leader was the order of the day!

Donny will sleep well until he watches Foxnews in the morning.... clap clap

[Major (Tom)]

Nothing will happen to trump and the probability of a second term increase in likihood everyday. I?m at the point the only reason im voting next election is to see the butt hurt on here. Other than that i wouldnt care if barbara streisand was our next president

[sixone]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I don't think anyone expected this.

And now it looks like John Podesta will end up in some trouble for working with Manafort and Russia.

Zero evidence supporting Trump worked with Russia. And now actual factual evidence that Hillary and her people are the guilty ones.

The mental gymnastics you must have to jump through on a daily basis

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So far the only investigating into Democrats involves Podesta Group. This seems to be routine. This company is owned by Tony Podesta, the brother of Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta. The work they did for Ukraine involved creating closer relations between Ukraine and Europe, which was a goal of the US government. There is really nothing illegal about this at all.

This seems to be tied into Manafort. However, these two items seems to be completely different. Manafort worked for the former President, which was more or less supported and funded by Moscow. The work the Podesta Group did was unrelated, and for a different Ukrainian government - this was a pro US and pro Europe Ukrainian government.

But by all means let's investigate this until we know exactly what happened. Let's continue investigating this no matter where it leads, and let's pull every string.

Wrong as usual. Manafort's job was to mold a pro-Russia candidate/party for US consumption. Podesta Group and the other "PR Firm" handled the payoffs here in the US.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Hillary's press secretary says the firm contacted the Hillary campaign saying they had interesting information. Hillary paid for it.

(Then of course it leaked to Buzzfeed.... put one and one together with that)

Libbies can't do math. It's oppressive.

[Paul Markham]

American elections are bought and paid for by the people who ruined the world economy. And you small minded trolls are worried that some of them might be from overseas.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

https://www.opensecrets.org/outsides...umm.php?disp=D

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...c-donors-2016/

A useful tool to find who is buying in your area. https://www.followthemoney.org/?gcli... AEgJE5fD_BwE

You have given away your power.

[crockett]

This was long ago known, why just now try to make a issue out of it like it was a conspiracy theory?

It's standard practice for opponents to go after info like this. Trump did it to Hillary as well as the RNC..

The difference is lots of dirt was found on Trump but not on Hillary who has been publicly vetted for the last 30 years.

It was known when the dossier was leaked that the DNC and obviously Hillary's campaign paid for it.

Meanwhile much of the info has been verified so now you try to make it a conspiracy theory.. Try using that critical thinking to fix your brain OP..

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by crockett

This was long ago known, why just now try to make a issue out of it like it was a conspiracy theory?

It's standard practice for opponents to go after info like this. Trump did it to Hillary as well as the RNC..

The difference is lots of dirt was found on Trump but not on Hillary who has been publicly vetted for the last 30 years.

It was known when the dossier was leaked that the DNC and obviously Hillary's campaign paid for it.

Meanwhile much of the info has been verified so now you try to make it a conspiracy theory.. Try using that critical thinking to fix your brain OP..

Before it was "conspiracy theory" because MMS want talking about it other than calling Trump a kook for saying that it was the Adams who did it

[Rochard]

In fact.... Didn't this all start with the Republican party funding this?

[Hannes]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

As crooked as it gets.

I try stay neutral on the political stuff, but I'm glad Clinton is being exposed.... want to hear what CNN( Clinton news network) has to say about this.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

They are forced to report on it. Do you still not understand how this works?

Quick rundown.

MSM does no research. They only read lines they are fed. If their puppeteer doesn't give them the lines or if they try to stray away from the flock then they no longer have a job.

Alt media by the thousands maybe even millions are beating the pavement and web doing actual research. In turn scooping MSM in some cases by years because they refuse to report on it. Their refusal leads people like you to believe anything they don't tell you is "conspiracy theory" that is until they are forced to report on it. Which is what we see here.

Again this story isn't new. I've talked about this right here on this forum... And likely called a "nutter" by people like yourself at the time.

You are fuckin delusional if you think your basement blog sites do research compared to actual news sites... for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

just because you want them to be true doesn't make it so. Time to get real, your fantasies can't be good for your private life. Unless you don't want people to take you seriously ever again that is. Political views aside this sounds insane...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

No, they don't. They featured someone they thought was a highly decorated Navy Seal multiple times and never bothered to check him out at all.

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are fuckin delusional if you think your basement blog sites do research compared to actual news sites... for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

just because you want them to be true doesn't make it so. Time to get real, your fantasies can't be good for your private life. Unless you don't want people to take you seriously ever again that is. Political views aside this sounds insane...

Nobody takes OP seriously, ever.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

In fact.... Didn't this all start with the Republican party funding this?

"A" currently unnamed Republican. Pretty much 100% guaranteed to be John McCain...

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

You are fuckin delusional if you think your basement blog sites do research compared to actual news sites... for fucks sakes even fox backs up their stories with research.

just because you want them to be true doesn't make it so. Time to get real, your fantasies can't be good for your private life. Unless you don't want people to take you seriously ever again that is. Political views aside this sounds insane...

What sounds insane? The MSM talking heads are just mouth pieces regurgitating what they are fed?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

"A" currently unnamed Republican. Pretty much 100% guaranteed to be John McCain...

Not caring. It's not wrong, it's not illegal, both sides do it; It's very common.

What's very strange here is who is behind this sudden news - Nunes. He had to remove himself from the Russian investigation for obvious reasons and now he is suddenly he is investigating who paid this this firm for the information. He is also behind the investigation into the Uranium deal. This isn't a Congressman doing his job; This is politics at the highest level.

What's even worse is how they are handling the Russian investigation. It seems that the Republicans involved only show up for hearings when they involve former Obama people. This is not an investigation, but instead a witch hunt. Again. They aren't interested in Trump potentially colluding with a foreign power to win an election, but instead they are only interested in the unmasking of sources:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...rump-or-russia

They are playing games instead of doing their jobs.

[beerptrol]

Chumpanzees out in full force deflecting and trying to spin shit.
The fact is things in that dossier have been proven to be true. So spin all you want, chump is as crooked and dirty as Hillary

Christopher Steele has more credibility than that pathological liar chump!

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Not caring. It's not wrong, it's not illegal, both sides do it; It's very common.

What's very strange here is who is behind this sudden news - Nunes. He had to remove himself from the Russian investigation for obvious reasons and now he is suddenly he is investigating who paid this this firm for the information. He is also behind the investigation into the Uranium deal. This isn't a Congressman doing his job; This is politics at the highest level.

What's even worse is how they are handling the Russian investigation. It seems that the Republicans involved only show up for hearings when they involve former Obama people. This is not an investigation, but instead a witch hunt. Again. They aren't interested in Trump potentially colluding with a foreign power to win an election, but instead they are only interested in the unmasking of sources:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...rump-or-russia

They are playing games instead of doing their jobs.

For starters ALL congressional investigations are all for show. They can't charge anyone with anything.. Secondly they aren't interested in chasing fairy tales made up by Democrats. Especially when the Democrats are being like children and trying to blame someone else for what they really did. You can downplay this shit all you want to try and keep some sanity. Just make sure you are prepared for acceptance when the time comes. It's coming, real soon. I've been telling you all along.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Chumpanzees out in full force deflecting and trying to spin shit.
The fact is things in that dossier have been proven to be true. So spin all you want, chump is as crooked and dirty as Hillary

Christopher Steele has more credibility than that pathological liar chump!

You're a fucking idiot. You've already said that. You don't read a fucking reply do you? Just repeat the same shit over and over like a goddamn parrot. Pay attention, of course things in it are true.... Even as stupid as some people are it would be pretty fucking dumb to make the entire report false. But quite frankly I think you would still believe it.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

For starters ALL congressional investigations are all for show. They can't charge anyone with anything.. Secondly they aren't interested in chasing fairy tales made up by Democrats. Especially when the Democrats are being like children and trying to blame someone else for what they really did. You can downplay this shit all you want to try and keep some sanity. Just make sure you are prepared for acceptance when the time comes. It's coming, real soon. I've been telling you all along.

I disagree. The investigation into "Russian collusion" is really more about finding out to what extent the Russians interfered with our election AND to see if there was any direct collusion between the Trump campaign / administration and the Russian government. It's very obvious the Russians influenced our election. Even if you remove Trump from the situation, and even if Hillary won, we should still be having this investigation.

We are now finding out the Russian government set up protests in the United States using only social media, and without ever having set foot in the United States. That's insane.

This is not fake news. This is fact. A foreign government influenced our election. Anyone who doesn't fully support an investigation shouldn't be serving in our government.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree. The investigation into "Russian collusion" is really more about finding out to what extent the Russians interfered with our election AND to see if there was any direct collusion between the Trump campaign / administration and the Russian government. It's very obvious the Russians influenced our election. Even if you remove Trump from the situation, and even if Hillary won, we should still be having this investigation.

We are now finding out the Russian government set up protests in the United States using only social media, and without ever having set foot in the United States. That's insane.

This is not fake news. This is fact. A foreign government influenced our election. Anyone who doesn't fully support an investigation shouldn't be serving in our government.

So the investigations found that it wasn't Trump but in fact Hillary. Exactly like I've been pounding into your head for a year now. What part of that don't you understand? Do you not fully support it since it was Hillary/Democrats? Wake the fuck up Rochard. What's it going to take?

[Matt 26z]

MSNBC is melting down. Chris Hayes is running with multiple narratives that deflect attention away from Hillary.

They haven't said anything about the complaint filed that Hillary violated campaign finance law in making the purchase. Instead they are saying that Trump violated campaign finance law by going in search of something of value from Wikileaks. They argue that the emails have value and thus Trump violated the law. It's like this is a broadcast exclusively for the low IQ.


Anderson Cooper on CNN is also melting down, focusing strong on the Trump-Russia connection where after nearly a year of talking about it there is still zero evidence.

[beerptrol]

Chump and his chumpanzees can't get anything done, so they need a villain to focus on to keep the simpletons busy.
funny how they are saying she violated campaign finance law, yet ignore chump's violations

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

MSNBC is melting down. .

Melting down. Is that your braindead euphemism for reporting important news?