Grapesoda

thanks, I don't follow the players

astronaut x

And yet she is no trouble at all, after alllllllllll that investigating.

Hmmm.. makes you wonder eh?

Grapesoda

where did trump get his campaign people Richard? guys already pulling strings and trump showed up or did trump bring in guys for the job that had been with him for years?

that is the real question to my mind... if the guys being charged are political hacks, that's means they were put on to him by the powers that be... or did trump show up with a gang of thugs?

do you know which?

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Grapesoda

this goes both ways being anti Hillary is not pro trump

this has happened many many times. we have survived


strange analogy, does this have some personal significance for you?

Grapesoda

Richard you have no idea about the 'pleading guilty' suppose the guy got busted fucking a kid and the 'just right people' set him up to rat trump out... he does a few years in a fed day camp, goes into witness protection after... as plausible as anything you have to say... we except the witness protection stuff. the guy really gets a knife in the kidney while in prison

Grapesoda

that's fucking weird.. am I supposed to enjoy the relentless attacks against trump? fuck running the government lets all be fucking crybabies!


no one innocent Richard.

so your theory is the 'secretary of state' had no input or knowledge of the country 'secret uranium supply and resources? that's fucking great.

I would not want someone that fucking incompetent to be present for sure. and the REAL is issue is the pay off thorough the Canadian charity cleaning the Russian payment's.

that's what they are talking about. this has been documented by many sources.

Clinton Foundation Donations and Bill Clinton Speaking Fee
Clinton?s role in the Uranium One sale, and the link to the Clinton Foundation, first became an issue in 2015, when news organizations received advance copies of the book ?Clinton Cash:haThe Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich,? by PeterhaSchweizer, a former fellow at a conservative think tank.

On April 23, 2015, thehaNew York Timeshawrotehaabout the uranium issue, saying the paperhahad ?built upon? Schweizer?shainformation.

ThehaTimeshadetailed how the Clinton Foundation had received millions in donations from investors in Uranium One.

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren?t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after thehaTimeshastory, the foundation acknowledged that it ?made mistakes,? saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

ThehaTimeshaalso wrote that Bill Clinton spoke at a conference in Moscow on June 29, 2010 ? which was after the Rosatom-Uranium One merger was announced in June 2010, but before it was approved by the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States in October 2010. The Russian-based Renaissance Capital Group organized the conference and paid Clinton $500,000.

Renaissance Capital has ?ties to the Kremlin? and its analysts ?talked up Uranium One?s stock, assigning it a ?buy? rating and saying in a July 2010 research report that it was ?the best play? in the uranium markets,? the Times wrote.

But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.

this should be on bullshit or not with penn and teller...


unlike the democratic bullshit, thanks for the clarification. seriously dude... you gonna go with that?

Rochard

Amazing question.

Trump has two people on board with him - his friends and family who have no political experience what so ever, and then people with political experience who aren't trusted by Trump, and do not get along with his friends and family. These two groups do not get along well, and he tends to favor his friends and family. I'm sorry, but Jared Kushner has no business being in the White House.

In the case of Manafort, he had been friends with Trump a long time. Others, like Papadopoulos, were "hand me downs" - Papadopoulos came from the Ben Carson campaign (if I understand correctly).

Some of his choices are fucking bizarre. Betsy Devos has ZERO experience in education. She had never ONCE stepped foot into a public school her ENTIRE LIFE - She went to private school as a child, her children went to private school, and her entire family has made a fortune in private schools. Ben Carson for HUD? That's a cruel joke, right? Perfectly qualified to be Surgeon General, but HUD? The argument Trump gave was that Carson grew up in pubic housing so he was qualified, but by this measure that means you and I are qualified based on the fact that our parents owned houses. The only one that seems to be doing well and understands her job is Nikki Haley.

My favorite though is Rex Tillerson for Secretary Of State. Zero qualifications for one of the most important positions in the country. Then add in Kushner who will magically just solve all of the problems in the Middle East, and it's easy to understand why nothing has been accomplished in ten months and his approval rating continues to sink lower, being the least popular president EVER.

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Rochard

In short, yes.

You mean after fourteen investigations and no charges, clearly Hillary must be guilty, right?

We should have another investigation to find out. You know what they say - Fifteenth time is a charm.

That's exactly what I am saying. You do understand what the Secretary of State is, and what the Secretary of State does, right? The Secretary of State is concerned with the relations of other countries, not what happens within the US borders. This is much more an area that the Department Of Energy would be interested in, or the Secretary of Defense. Hillary Clinton wasn't briefed on this, didn't sit in on meetings about this; The Secretary of State doesn't weigh on regular operations of energy companies. Her department signed off on it; This is something that happens hundreds of times a year.

This is completely false. The man who owned Uranium One and made the donations to Clinton sold his interests in Uranium One before Clinton was Secretary of State.

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Fucking a kid would get charged at the state level.

Grapesoda

think of it like asking you about the dodgers... okay? I do not follow baseball however I am aware of baseball and some of the issues, fair enough? this is about as much info as I have about politics, yet you guys just refuse to believe it.

Rex Tillerson is my favorite as well. one hell of a man and a patriot. and the motherfucker knows some Russians.

I'm not sure why I even need to mention this, it seems so obvious.. we NEED relations with Russia. and China. you do realize that correct? pretty sure cnn and the times ect have kept this away from your eyes.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...week-jury-duty

this is the type of man we need in government

Grapesoda

okay... I'm not going to research this because it really doesn't matter to me.. if you don't mind. IMO there has been way to much dirty water around the Clintons and Obama to just pretend everything is okay. some of the dirty water is very obvious.

and all the sexual claims against Bill Clinton... https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...nt-fine-229460... lol!!

if you think your team of liars is telling truth and the other team of liars is lying... you can have that can of worms in your head by yourself.. not for me.

Rochard

Other than being a boy scout when he was a child, what makes him a patriot?

Well, yes, we need relations with Russia. But we know someone who knows how to handle international relations. Of all countries, not just Russia. Tillerson is a businessman. He knows oil. He has zero experience with international relations.

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Rochard

What does Bill Clinton have to do with ANY of this?

This is hilarious. You keep acting like they won. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are done, over with; Hillary is on a book tour. She'll spend the rest of her life giving speeches, maybe do some consulting; She'll never have to worry about money. But for some reason the Republican party keeps going after her. Because, you know, after fourteen investigations she must be guilty of something, RIGHT? You keep trying.

Hillary Clinton is the most vetted politician in American history.

But while you bring up sexual claims.... Let's grab this by the pussy! You want to bring up sexual claims from a President who hasn't been in office for nearly twenty years while Trump is in office? You cannot remotely be serious. That's a joke, right?

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I just read this and nowhere in this is trump. I know it's a long read, but this is not about trump...it's about manafort laundering money. your conjecture is wild and not correct. the next target will be podesta, which is why he stepped down....swamp draining? check

clinton should be really nervous now that this is on money laundering, if podesta rolls over the clintons are SUNK. it's glorius

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Oh my god... you people are either blind or just plain stupid. The clintons have skirted the law for 30 years. It has happened so much that it's turned you guys into dindunuffins. The emails and the private server we know she lied to congress about that. The emails are vital to her potential money laundering case, which is why she deleted them and destroyed any evidence she thought relevant. Even this is obstruction of justice that would put you or I in jail if it were us. Do you really think the comey investigation was thorough and fair? Allow a potential witness to act as counsel during an interview is never ever ever done, but was allowed for clinton. The investigations against clinton have been dog and pony shows, and if mueller does his job the democrats(and republicans) will start to shit their pants. Because folks, this is the first step to draining the swamp. And guess what, Trump will come out the winner just like everytime someone fucks with him.

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The last time a campaign chairman was indicted AND charged was during Watergate. None of the charges mention Trump because they are not against Trump; they are against Manafort and Gates. These are money laundering charges, and very VERY easy to prove in court. Manafort and Gates will be facing serious jail time, and these might result in them going to prison for the rest of their lives. The intention it to put pressure on them to flip on Trump. If they don't flip, or if there was no collusion, they go to prison for the crimes they committed. Best case for Manafort and Gates is for them to tell all they know and make a deal.

We already know there was collusion. A member of Trump's Foreign Policy Committee "magically" met a Russian agent while on vacation in Italy, came back and told the Trump campaign he had met someone who had "dirt" on Clinton, and someone at the Trump Campaign signed off on him and "another person" going to a foreign country to meet this person.

As for the Podesta Group, there seems to be no indication of any wrong doing. They were mention in the indictment only because they did some work for the same group Manafort worked for. Working for this group isn't what Manafort is in trouble for, nor is there any wrong doing involved in working for them. There was a dozen other companies mentioned in the indictment, and oddly enough the only ones the Republicans have latched onto is the Podesta Group.

At this point the Podesta Group does not seem to be under investigation, nor are any of the other companies under investigation. In the event they decide to investigate them, and they discover the Podesta Brothers were making money in Ukraine and then holding it in a bank in Cypress that Russians use to launder money.... Well then, they will be charged and they can go to prison. With the Podesta Brothers there is no "deal" to be made.

Again, I find it amusing that out of the dozen companies mentioned only one is being singled out, and Republicans are acting like they are under investigation. Take a look at the Podesta Brothers and compare them to Manafort. The Podesta Brothers are life long politicians - Do you really think they were laundering money through banks in Cypress?

Of course you had to mention Clinton, because she has zero involvement in any of this. But we should investigate her again just to be sure.

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Rochard

If they have been "dirty" for the past thirty years... Why hasn't it come up in any of the dozen or investigations we've had in the past four years?

If you are so concerned about "missing emails", shouldn't you be up in arms about the million plus emails missing under President Bush?

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CIA's been cleaning up after them for years that's why. Obama was a spook as well. That's why his past is so sketchy, full of holes, multiple SS#s and all.. Bush Jr was via Bush Sr. Considering he and Osama Bin Laden were childhood friends Jr was most likely his handler.. The US has been run by CIA since at least Bush Sr. Likely since Kennedy. MSM is FULL of CIA. That's why they all work in unison.. That's why all of them are pissed their election fix didn't work..

Mueller's indictments weren't a warning to Trump. It was a warning to these people. Podesta, Hillary and others. If you don't stop trying to take out a democratically elected President, I'm taking you out. If these people keep pushing, Trump has no choice. All dirty secrets will be revealed. Trump allowing the Kennedy file release was a message. The Newsweek Uranium One article was a message. He's making it very clear. Fuck with me, Ill fuck you 10 times over. Quite sure he has a plan in place to expose everyone if anything happens to him. He's not stupid.

Once again, Trump met with Mueller the day before he was appointed. If you think he didn't know Mueller would be the appointment you're a complete fucking moron. Pretty much retard status. Trump interviewed Mueller for FBI director - CNNPolitics

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Then I hope you'll take it upon yourself to vote and maybe do some campaign volunteering, etc, and not just post all day.

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I am already involved in a number of local charities.

I also believe local politics is much more important - What happens in Washington has little impact on the local population. Taxes go up, taxes go down, healthcare costs will always go up.

What's important to me is my house not flooding. My city government was blasted for working on flood control during the recession when our local government was going broke. The city government told us it wasn't a matter of if we would have to deal with flooding, but when, and sure enough when the rains finally came last winter we were ready and everything worked as they hoped.

I am very well known here locally. I run the local Facebook groups for the city. Everyone is telling me I need to run for city council. I am sure I will in the future.

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Lack of better judgment is not an impeachable offense.

The new rich is orange moron
Trump is obnoxiously nouveau riche in behavior -- gold toilets and such. '0' class. Talks to the knuckle draggers like he has an 8th grade education ...

He was a curiosity when he was a private enterprise.
As a leader of a nation -- Trump is a disgrace apart from his feigned incompetence.

At least Richard Nixon was competent in the workings of government -- dosen't get much worse. Even conservative Republican party regulars are distancing themselves. Remember, the Republican leadership forced Nixon to resign.

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Rochard

More proof of collusion this morning.... Just fucking wow.

I thought this meeting was a "nothing burger"....

A Russian lawyer who met with President Donald Drumpf?s oldest son last year says he indicated that a law targeting Russia could be re-examined if his father won the election and asked her for written evidence that illegal proceeds went to Hillary Clinton?s campaign.

And then....

Veselnitskaya said she went to the New York meeting to show Drumpf campaign officials that major Democratic donors had evaded U.S. taxes and to lobby against the so-called Magnitsky law that punishes Russian officials for the murder of a Russian tax accountant who accused the Kremlin of corruption.

Veselnitskaya also said Drumpf Jr. requested financial documents showing that money that allegedly evaded U.S. taxes had gone to Clinton?s campaign.

So now we have Donald Trump Jr directly asking the Russians for dirt on Hillary Clinton. Most likely he lied about this under oath too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ow-lawyer-says

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TheRock55

If these "russians" that Donald Trump JR met with were so bad and evil...then how the hell did they get to enter the country?

Rochard

No legal grounds to stop them?

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TheRock55

So they're not russian "agents"....

Bladewire

Yeah they all lie about speaking with Russians about stolen emails then when caught say it was nothing or "oh we met but can't remember the conversation" scumbags

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TheRock55

Define "russians"...is it anyone who is part russian, russian or kremlin?

They haven't lied about anything. Meeting with people is not illegal. Clinton met with Russians. How is meeting with someone bad and illegal?

TheRock55

You can indict a ham sandwich. Manafort and two other guys no one has ever heard of were indicted for something they did TEN YEARS AGO...absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

They aren't going to "flip" on Trump because there's nothing to flip on. Trump has absolutely nothing to do with Russia. Quit watching CNN, where all they do is put the words "Trump" and "Russia" in the same sentence to try to convince you of this wild crazy conspiracy

What's wrong with listening to someone who says they have dirt on Clinton? Clinton PAID THE RUSSIANS to make up fake stuff on Trump. You never use Donald Trump's name when referring to Russians. It's always some assistant or some guy "close" to Trump...rofl...

You are hallucinating. There is no collusion

Acepimp

^^ this is accurate.

Sorry Rochard, I know you dislike Trump for some strange reason, but there's no Russia collusion from the Trump campaign. Manafort was lobbying for Ukraine 10 years ago and whatever he did, it has NOTHING to do with Trump or his campaign. Seems to me that the Podesta brothers planted Manafort in the Trump campaign to sabotage it, and Tony P just got run over by the Trump train.

But Don Jr! Ok, Don Jr met with someone who claimed to have dirt on Hillary. That's not collusion, it's not treason, it's not any crime whatsoever. The Russian lawyer worked for Fusion gps and was brought into the country by Loretta Lynch. It was all a setup.

Furthermore, there is evidence of collusion- from the Hillary campaign:

Media, Dems Ignore Hillary Ukraine Collusion

Sorry bud, the dems are massive criminals.

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Exactly. And it will be even more funny when Trump fires Mueller and pardons everyone

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Oh I thought this thread was about the NFL.
Disappoint.

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Rochard

It's violation of campaign laws. A candidate cannot receive anything of value from a foreign government.

Not to mention the $15 million Turkey offered Flynn.

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TheRock55

Clinton paid a foreign government to make up stuff on Trump. That is illegal...meeting with someone who says they have dirt is NOT illegal. He did not initiate the contact and it wasn't from a "foreign government" and there was no dirt, try keeping up man

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The Obama Admin let them in on special visas.

Obama allowed Russian lawyer into US under 'extraordinary circumstances': Report

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TheRock55

SO they're "evil menacing horrible russians"...who the obama admin just let in!

It's looking more and more like the Obama admin was trying everything they could do to tap Trump's phones and try and get dirt on him...but to no avail!

TheRock55

They didn't receive anything from a foreign government and never met with any foreign government officials in that meeting

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So evil they they were paying them for the dossier. Hell they were on DNC payroll when they went to the fucking meeting.

The Democrats are so fucking stupid that they keep pressing for themselves to be exposed. I LOVE IT. Can't wait for more Trump cards to be played.

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TheRock55

Yea, anyone who looks at this can see it for what it was. The DNC/Hillary camp tried everything they can to get dirt on Trump, smear him, muckraking, etc and none of it worked

baddog

This thread is so laughable.

Steve Rupe

You are amusing as hell. Keep on keeping on with the jokes.

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Bladewire

Flynn broke the law by responding to the Turkey offer via meeting.

It's telling that the Trump hate nic troll here supports Flynn breaking federal law, then again, the fake hate nic troll is a foreigner so American laws & customs means shit to him.

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Now we have Russia making payments to US election funds...

FBI scrutinizing Russian embassy payments 'to finance election campaign of 2016' | TheHill
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kevincollie...Rw#.wxLPOegw6w

Nothing burger.

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Acepimp

^^ Buzzfeed has the real scoop!

Guys, the Russia hoax was made up by Podesta & Mook the day after the election. They fed it to the media & you fell for it. It's ok, it's not really your fault that the fake media tricked you. Some people aren't good at filtering fake news. Don't worry, we can try to help

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TheRock55

Only mentally ill people believe Russia "hacked" our election lol

TheRock55

lol FAKE NEWS....$30,000 was used to help Russians vote from abroad...nothing to do with out election rofl