sarettah

Why isn't there a thread about this? Damn.

I personally think that if it happens it could be one of the worst things that could happen to the Adult Internet. But that is just my opinion.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...utrality-rules

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Bladewire

Trump supporters here support Trump taking away net neutrality and coropratizing the internet. That's the kind of scum we're dealing with.

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Not just adult.

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sarettah

Understood, BUT it should be being discussed here because of the effect it could have on the Adult Internet (This is an Adult Industry Forum if you recall).

If Net Neutrality is repealed then ISPs could pretty much block adult content if they chose to or charge a premium to users to be able to access it.

That's not a real good thing for us.

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I wondered why when I looked in earlier. Not to be all nostalgic, but at one point, news like this would have blown up this forum.

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kane

There is still a chance it will fail at the vote that is coming up soon, but it looks like it is very likely to happen. I don't think they would have taken the time to do the things they did today if they didn't think the vote was going to pass.
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PR_Glen

why is it trump supporters in your mind? this was tried to be put in motion for years before he was even a candidate.

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selena

Agreed on it not being a done deal, but also agreed on this time, I think they are actually going to pass it.

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They will keep pushing the bill untill nobody gives a damn any more and then they will pass it...then people will bitch and eventually they will revoke it...

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Barry-xlovecam

Well P2P WebRTC video cannot be disturbed. There is no target in a distributed broadcast scenario.

Amazon Prime may have to pay off US ISPs to have good delivery -- Netflix already does pay some ISPs for preferential treatment.

Tubes that are offshore mainly are fucked if this happens ... Only the largest of porn pay-sites may be affected. The medium to small ones don't realy matter -- the cow has little milk

Boozer

Back to making shit up again..

Rochard

This is just stunning that this is a allowed to happen. Most people aren't giving this any thought... Right up until their cable / internet company tells them they need to pay a lot more to get a faster line.

What fucking bullshit.

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Matt 26z

A practice that is in violation of net neutrality.

Another thing in violation are cell companies that offer free data for streaming music services.

Net neutrality was never an issue until Democrats decided that we needed it. The whole thing is empty drama.

Matt 26z

You mean like this?...

https://www.xfinity.com/learn/internet-service/speed

Boozer

That was in 2014.

sarettah

You can still leave comments for the FTC regarding this.

If you go to http://www.gofccyourself you will be redirected to the appropriate page on the fcc site. My thanks to Greenguy for reminding me that John Oliver had set that up.

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Here in europe there is different direction - mobile carriers started to offer flat internet for surfing on youtube/netflix and similar tube sites, tho kind doubt they will offer porn package too lol

CamsEtc

Anyone that has a magical belief that the FCC will regulate anything to consumer advantage believes in unicorns and is asking for odious pain. Just as the FCC is not your friend so to are ATT, Comcast, Verizon and Google villainous. They are merely government created monopolies seeking to remain so via reclassifications and/or exemptions. I certainly don't want government going into ISPs and monitoring
everything that's going on.

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crockett

I discussed it many times over the years and always got the "it won't happen replies".. now here we are will dumb dumbs in charge..

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Barry-xlovecam

European and non USA Internet sites will be affected in the USA. The users ISP selects the connections from where the internet site dumps the traffic.

Boozer

???

The FCC is an independent agency.

Surely you mean Ajit Pai. The scumbag who is in the back pocket of every major ISP.

MaDalton

Lifted in that position by Trump with a clear goal

https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/23/14338522/fcc-chairman-ajit-pai-donald-trump-appointment

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Boozer

he was brought into the FCC by obama. Lets not muddy the waters with political bullshit.

MaDalton

Did you read the article? I was expecting a reply like that.

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Boozer

There is nothing new too read that I did not already know.

brassmonkey

i can't wait for the glass flowing over. let's play freeze tag!

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sarettah

The repeal of Net Neutrality was part of the 2016 RNC platform.

https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/medi...DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf

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sarettah

Fuck, I blew that link. It should be www.gofccyourself.com

Helps to include the .com I guess.

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So this is what wining looks like....

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Boozer

Why would that have been their platform when Tom Wheeler was in charge at the time?

If Wheeler does not resign, we are not currently in this position.

The Porn Nerd

Trump will always support 100% of the time anything that makes him or his buddies richer and screws everyone else. Does not matter the issue. If Trump and his buddies can profit they will do it regardless of the downside or the negative effects on the Middle Class.

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sardelkin

Reddit is blowing up over this right now.

BaldBastard

It might be good at keeping rednecks off the internet, anyone whose not in a major city can expect to pay a lot more for their internet

Boozer

???

Explain.

BaldBastard

Its cheaper to provide services in cities where the populations are, over rural areas with less population. Easiest way to make up that loss is by pushing your own content/ websites over others.

sarettah

It is in the RNC (Republican National Committee) 2016 Platform. The things that the Republicans said that they wanted to get through if they got in charge. Having it in their platform has nothing to do with Wheeler.

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It dosen't matter where you live in the USA it is how the ISP delivers your content. Fast Lane or Slow Lane. Who pays will be the issue the Internet site or the consumer?

Netflix is paying USA ISPs a surcharge now for preferential service. There may come a day where you, the consumer, can buy a package of premium sites that are 'bundled' -- you know the drill -- bend over and hold your ankles.

If they can't fuck you over on the pay channels anymore that you have 'cut the cord to' they will petition the government for a new license to fuck you over with.

Eventually (10 or 20 years out?), there will be pirate wireless service you can buy cheaply ... For very action there is a countermeasure ...

Boozer

Got a current link to support this?

This would be in direct violation of net neutrality.

crockett

Trump appointed Ajit to do just what he's doing on behalf of Republicans who've been trying to crush NN for years..

Don't play ignorant, I know this game very well and I've followed this for years. Republicans have been trying for years to do this and Trump has now given them the ability to do so.

Don't be fucking ignorant... I will bitch slap you with the facts..

Boozer

LOL..

I am on the same side of the aisle with you regarding net neutrality, and I am ignorant?

sperbonzo

The new generation of wireless ISP systems use tiny little transmitters that can be mounted in trees or anywhere, without big towers or having to dig fiber trenches, and it will be many times faster than the existing wired internet infrastructure. This will allow absolute competition which the current system does not. Anytime a company starts overcharging or limiting service, there will be another to choose from. Lets not allow the government to take control of yet another thing, especially the internet! Net neutrality was never a fairness play, it was always a government control play.







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5 degrees of blame the liberals.. Red Hats can always do it in 1, just blame the nearest lefty!! Everything is a liberals fault Trump and Republicans din do nuffins wrong! Ever!

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crockett

Why dont you look into how your free market utopia is working out with the cable and telcom industries.. oh shit there is no competitors.....

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sperbonzo

Really? So then why is cable losing out to the ISPs, and services like Roku, etc... with the growing number of people who have "cut the cable"?

As for Telcom industries.... Really? No competition? What country do you live in? Here in Florida, there are 21 telcom providers, just in this state....





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Barry-xlovecam

I am well aware of the new wireless Internet technologies. What the effect on human tissue viability will be with all of the RF background 'noise' will be I can't speculate other than to hope for none or some control factors made to mitigate it.

However, that does not change the outdated role of the dim-wits appointed to the FTC by even more ignorant political ass-hats. They are setting an agenda, with as little public interest as possible, with regard to the Internet -- the Internet that they cannot control and fear. I will go ahead and predict an Internet Police Agency at some future point in the USA -- the powers that be are really scared shitless.

Their databases get hacked regularly and extortion is not uncommon with these new 'cyber criminals'. Rouge states are sponsoring these acts now it is believed (or we are led to believe). So, if you are aware and watching ...

sarettah

And just how is having Internet Access defined as a Telecommunications service under Title II stop the system from having competition.

I am seeing the argument thrown around by proponents of repeal but not seeing any actual arguments showing that title ii is having any such effect.

The fact of the matter is that Internet Access IS a telecommunications service, it is NOT an information service as defined under title i.

Most providers nowadays offer both internet access (connection) and information services (email, portals, etc) so the lines can appear to be blurred somewhat but if you look closely the lines are actually quite clear.


Title II regulation did not stop Google from jumping into the broadband market. The fear of regulations did not stop competition and I know for a fact that here in Kansas City Google's entry into the broadband market spurred other providers to improve their broadband offerings. Title II did nothing to interfere in any way and as a result I now have Time Warner's fastest offering at the same price that I was getting what is now their slowest offering before Google gave them a reason to change. So, where is the competition being stifled ? It is not being stifled by the fact that it is regulated under Title II.

Removing Title II regulations from Internet Access will only give a way for the ISPs to screw the consumer over and will do nothing to increase investment or competition.

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Cox Cable, my provider, just gave notice that in 2 months they'll be charging me as much for my internet only package as we used to pay for the top tier cable/TV/internet bundle! And... the internet only package will now be metered, not unlimited internet, so they'll make even more gross profits.

Cable is NOT losing out with net neutrality being destroyed they are making bank!

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The cable companies, for television, are regulated at the state or local level, they are NOT regulated by the FCC. When they offer internet access, that part is a title ii service.

So comparing what is going on with the cable companies television offerings going up against streaming services with what we are talking about with Net Neutrality is basically apples to oranges.

The telecommunications companies, as common carriers, are subject to title ii regulations. Your argument that there are 21 telcom providers in your state just prove my arguument that title ii regulations do nothing to stifle competition.

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I depend on the internet for income the same as many depend on public roads to get to their place of work.

I don't see the relationship of the automobile and the public subsidized road being any different than that of the computing device and the Internet Both are for work as a necessity and entertainment/recreation as an option.

Instead of feeding the weapons industry with government taxpayer funds we need to build out an utra high speed Internet network -- no different that the interstate road system that was built in the 1950's. Doing this would create good construction and technology jobs and keep the USA competitive for the future. Fuck coal miners! Coal miners could maybe be retrained as the linemen of the future instead of preserving an uneeded legacy occupation that has seen its day.

The world has changed and these government numb-nuts that use the public road right of way to get to their office suite are oblivious to the general public situation. They are the incumbent about to be unseated and are too dim-witted to realize it -- apparently.

I demand an Internet for work tax credit -- not a deduction!