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Old 11-28-2017, 01:59 PM   #1
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Affiliate Model Quietly Moves from 50% to 25%

I'd complain but you know.............fuck it.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:11 PM   #2
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I'll have the anal. No lube, thanks.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:22 PM   #3
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better 25% with cams, than 50% with non existent paysite sales
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:27 PM   #4
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better 25% with cams, than 50% with non existent paysite sales
25% with cam sales. I like it. 25% when someone making $36 and I'm getting $9.

Thank fucking god for global re-directs.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:36 PM   #5
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Not sure what you mean. Pretty much all programs I promote are 50% still.

If they offer less, I mostly skip. Except for cams, where a smaller percentage is normal.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:04 PM   #6
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Not sure what you mean. Pretty much all programs I promote are 50% still.

If they offer less, I mostly skip. Except for cams, where a smaller percentage is normal.
Same here, 50% or skip. Just seeing a few more going from 50 to 25%. Cams I understand but...
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:27 PM   #7
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Sign of the times I guess
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:40 PM   #8
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Not sure what you mean. Pretty much all programs I promote are 50% still.

If they offer less, I mostly skip. Except for cams, where a smaller percentage is normal.
That's funny.

Think about it.

I produce content, pay a model, pay for location, pay for recruiting, pay a cameraman, pay an editor, pay hosting, pay promo materials etc. etc. etc.

BUT affiliates deserve 50% for promoting my content over a cam with less overhead, no promo material, etc. etc. paying 25% , more of them paying 18% Not complaining I'm all good just interesting psychologically & dynamics
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Old 11-29-2017, 03:18 AM   #9
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That's funny.

Think about it.

I produce content, pay a model, pay for location, pay for recruiting, pay a cameraman, pay an editor, pay hosting, pay promo materials etc. etc. etc.

BUT affiliates deserve 50% for promoting my content over a cam with less overhead, no promo material, etc. etc. paying 25% , more of them paying 18% Not complaining I'm all good just interesting psychologically & dynamics
I produce content as well. I see both sides.

Affiliates, in this day and age should be 20-30% of your sales. Owners should be able to get their own sales. Plenty of deals to be made directly. Affiliates bring you sales you would not/may not get otherwise. Most likely.

Affiliates have domain, design, web hosting costs. And lots of time spent making those sales happen.
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Old 11-29-2017, 04:01 AM   #10
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25% with cam sales. I like it. 25% when someone making $36 and I'm getting $9.

Thank fucking god for global re-directs.
So you want 50 and the girl wants 50 ?

I dont think you have thought this through.
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Old 11-29-2017, 05:05 AM   #11
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So you want 50 and the girl wants 50 ?

I dont think you have thought this through.
Just charge the model for affiliate traffic, they will receive a lower payout on traffic they would have never had to begin with. Affiliates should get a bigger cut on their traffic considering models do not always perform optimal and waste a lot of the affiliate traffic too!
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So you want 50 and the girl wants 50 ?

I dont think you have thought this through.
Not talking about cams. Cams? 25% Thats great...if I can get it.
Talking about membership sites for the 9 and 36 numbers.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:56 AM   #13
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I have always offered 50% to my affiliates. I couldn't imagine offering less than that since so many other programs offer 50% to their affiliates. I think that most affiliates would skip over anything less than that, but it still depends on the affiliate and the program.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:26 AM   #14
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I have always offered 50% to my affiliates. I couldn't imagine offering less than that since so many other programs offer 50% to their affiliates. I think that most affiliates would skip over anything less than that, but it still depends on the affiliate and the program.
Glad to hear it. You make great content.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:06 AM   #15
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Not sure what you mean. Pretty much all programs I promote are 50% still.

If they offer less, I mostly skip. Except for cams, where a smaller percentage is normal.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:11 AM   #16
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Which Programs are doing this?

Names please.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:48 AM   #17
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I promote lots of programs and none of them is under 50%. some of them are even 55% or 60%.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:25 AM   #18
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BS.

I promote lots of programs and none of them is under 50%. some of them are even 55% or 60%.
Whatever dude.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:53 AM   #19
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Which Programs are doing this?

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Nothing evil going on. Just increased fees with some processors, exit offers,special deals. They still bring sales just not what they used to. Share per sale wise.
Overall seems to vary between some programs.
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Old 11-29-2017, 01:32 PM   #20
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50% is high enough though I agree that if a program reduces its affiliate %, affiliates should be clearly informed well ahead of time.
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Nothing evil going on. Just increased fees with some processors, exit offers,special deals. They still bring sales just not what they used to. Share per sale wise.
Overall seems to vary between some programs.
Not saying anything nefarious is going on just wondering which Programs would quietly cut their 50% revshare down to 25%.

But if you are seeing things like exit pops, reduced offers, etc then maybe it isn't a "true" 25% just that's what the % is with those other factors thrown in? There's a big difference there.
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Not saying anything nefarious is going on just wondering which Programs would quietly cut their 50% revshare down to 25%.

But if you are seeing things like exit pops, reduced offers, etc then maybe it isn't a "true" 25% just that's what the % is with those other factors thrown in? There's a big difference there.
You are correct. Other factors thrown in. Still same results at end of day. I guess a few $ is better than no $ is the take away.
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Cams need to be competitive because there's three people dipping their hands in the jar.

I appreciate the models and what they do. They are the ones working harder in my opinion, they're doing the "dirty work". Affiliates and owners of the sites try to setup scale-able systems to make their efforts profitable.
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Cams need to be competitive because there's three people dipping their hands in the jar.

I appreciate the models and what they do. They are the ones working harder in my opinion, they're doing the "dirty work". Affiliates and owners of the sites try to setup scale-able systems to make their efforts profitable.
Totally support the models who work their rooms. No matter what its a hard job to stay competitive and earning.
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This is one of the main reasons the affiliate model is being replaced.

Affiliates that only see a headline figure drive that headline upwards.

50-60- 70 even 100 %.

Never mind what the cookie rules are, or never mind if it is lifetime or not, never mind if the program has to shave to make some money.

So you all sign to the highest %, the program runs some kind of cookie clause in its t's and c's, the program shaves to make some money, or hits the punters with a ton of cross sales.......

Or the program spends the money that it might have paid to an affiliate on building its own traffic.

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