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Paul Markham · 12-08-2017, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

No.

This is not I want a President in office who promises one thing and then says "fuck it" once in office. Clinton, Bush, and Obama did the wrong thing - they promised "X" and then failed to deliver. Instead I would much rather have Clinton, Bush, and Obama stand up and do the right thing - promise NOT to make this happen.

The reason they Clinton, Bush, and Obama said they would do it was because they wanted to show Israel they support them, but when they got into office they quickly figured out this could never happen. Our entire policy for the middle east is a "two-state solution". By doing this, it destroys our entire middle east policy - and there is so "plan b" here.

Trump - with all of his wisdom and political experience - just destroyed any chance for peace in the middle east.

This is exactly why all three past presidents did not do this.

This illustrates the problem. America thinks it can affect the outcome of the ME. How is it doing so far?

thommy · 12-08-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Everyone knows that if it were another country stealing land, oppressing a minority, the US would be up in arms about it. So why give Israel a free ride?

Is the answer based on race?

i think there are 2 answers

1. usa was, is and will be always governed by the big capital - and jews have it.
nearly all big us companies are driven by jews.

2. an instable middle east will cause more wars - more wars means more weapon
exports.
it will also cause a higher oil price and destroying protected naturalparks end up in the
the wallet of the big fracking companies (where trump not only holds shares but also is
partner in the pipelines what will be used).

if you understand how world economy works you know already all about us politics.
it´s all about money - individual life don´t matters in that game.

Robbie · 12-08-2017, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

This is amazing. They all said they would do it, and yet NONE of them did it. In fact, all of them signed waivers to prevent this. Not just once mind you - every six months.

Can someone explain to me why?

I can explain why.... It's a bad fucking idea. This is what they wanted to hear at these events, but everyone knows it's a bad idea. That's why it wasn't done.

Such a bad idea.
So is electing people who lie to the voters about what they will do.

This country isn't supposed to be RULED over by assholes who THINK they know better.
It's supposed to be the will of the people.

Sounds like you'd rather be ruled by a King.

By the way...since you're so knowledgeable and informed...WHY did the Senate JUST UNANIMOUSLY VOTE TO MOVE THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM again? Just like they have for over 20 years?

You keep skipping over that and making excuses for liars and cowards.

Bladewire · 12-08-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Such a bad idea.
So is electing people who lie to the voters about what they will do.

This country isn't supposed to be RULED over by assholes who THINK they know better.
It's supposed to be the will of the people.

Sounds like you'd rather be ruled by a King.

By the way...since you're so knowledgeable and informed...WHY did the Senate JUST UNANIMOUSLY VOTE TO MOVE THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM again? Just like they have for over 20 years?

You keep skipping over that and making excuses for liars and cowards.

Poor Robbie

bronco67 · 12-08-2017, 09:32 PM

Trump's action and words can only result in turmoil and strife.

Paul Markham · 12-09-2017, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Not at all. What happened in 637 is hardly relevant.

If a country - or a race - has been in place in a city for over a thousand years, that is pretty much that.

They are fighting wars from the 1,000 bc so the past is very much shaping the now.

However, I agree with you. Israel was a mistake and should never have been formed. Since it has been it has been nothing but a problem. All because the people believe in the "Harry Potter" bibles of nonsense.

Paul Markham · 12-09-2017, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i think there are 2 answers

1. usa was, is and will be always governed by the big capital - and jews have it.
nearly all big us companies are driven by jews.

2. an instable middle east will cause more wars - more wars means more weapon
exports.
it will also cause a higher oil price and destroying protected naturalparks end up in the
the wallet of the big fracking companies (where trump not only holds shares but also is
partner in the pipelines what will be used).

if you understand how world economy works you know already all about us politics.
it´s all about money - individual life don´t matters in that game.

! & 2 have been happening for decades. But you only notinced now Trump is in power. Why is that?

For instance Frcking has been around for how long?

Paul Markham · 12-09-2017, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Trump's action and words can only result in turmoil and strife.

Are you referring to wars started under Bush and kept going under Obama, with the help of Clinton?

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