The government is shut down as of 9 minutes ago.

[Steve Rupe]

I am watching Cspan as the Senate is still in session.

[onwebcam]

OMG What am I going to do without my park rangers?

[VRPdommy]

Not Much will actually 'close'.
Even when they get past this, the next hurdle will be raising the debt ceiling to borrow the money they are not collecting in taxes anymore.
So, I expect 'FEES' to go up since they will not agree on what to cut.
Everything they ever told us of how important it is to move to a 'balanced budget' is out the window.
All credibility has been flushed down the drain.
Elect more independents ! Deny both a majority.
Things will actually change.

[Paul Markham]

Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

paul the migrant hates migrants

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Migrants cost money, especially with automation and Globalisation taking jobs.

What Governments should do is list what a migrant cost to live in the new country. Housing, Health, Education, Welfare, Wage compression, Unemployment of citizens, policing, courts, prisons, and more. Including the birth rate because as decent jobs disappear more children are eventually going to be a burden on those with jobs.

Democrats want as many excuses to allow people to stay. 700,000 people have a cost, what level of career will they have to achieve to contribute?

the point is that trump is simply a fucking liar.
this shutdown goes on his account. because he first agreed and than changed his mind again.

If you look through this interview with someone who knows him personally you might wake up.



i know it is long but it is very very interesting - well maybe not for lovers of alternative facts.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul the migrant hates migrants

Hypocracy at its finest.

Worst of all Paul is retired and riddled with very expensive diseases.

So Paul is not contributing a fucking thing, and draining his adopted countries healthcare system,.

[crockett]

Thanks Obama!

[Sarn]

not are the first time

[ilnjscb]

FUCK!!! Free holiday with pay for federal workers

[thommy]

I wonder if the russian trolls are also on holidays now after they reached their target to
push a monkey in the POTUS chair.

https://www.rferl.org/a/twitter-says.../28986363.html

[crockett]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

OMG What am I going to do without my park rangers?

All those illegals get a free pass now...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

the point is that trump is simply a fucking liar.
this shutdown goes on his account. because he first agreed and than changed his mind again.

If you look through this interview with someone who knows him personally you might wake up.

i know it is long but it is very very interesting - well maybe not for lovers of alternative facts.

What I posted was for all countries taking in migrants. Wouldn't you like to know what it costs you as a German taxpayer to take in so many migrants?

[brassmonkey]

the sky is falling! oh wait it's raining...

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Hypocracy at its finest.

Worst of all Paul is retired and riddled with very expensive diseases.

So Paul is not contributing a fucking thing, and draining his adopted countries healthcare system,.

I lived and worked here for over ten years. During that time I employed up to 8 people. So I paid my health insurance and employees. I also brought all my turnover into Czech.

Why do you keep thinking I'm like you, someone barely making a living?

Don't tell us what you do, prove it and show me. Everyone knows who I am.

It's kind of like the people who admire Trump. They do it because they're pieces of shit too and couldn't recognize a person with integrity and class if he rented space up their ass. It's not their fault...it just makes perfect sense to like an asshole if you're also an asshole who agrees with their asshole views. (Bronco67. 8th Feb 2017)

Isn't it good policy to know what level of a person is trying to get into your country? As you say there are already lots of useless people already there.



Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

[DraX]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul the migrant hates migrants

I doubt that very much, I do believe he despises politicians who made it all possible...

Not that you would understand.

[RedFred]

This is the first time ever a govt shutdown occurred where one party held all 3 branches of govt.

[Acepimp]

HAHA HAHA The clueless libs think the Schumer shutdown is Trumps fault! Wrong! Democrat votes were also needed and they failed like always!!

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by thommy

I wonder if the russian trolls are also on holidays now after they reached their target to
push a monkey in the POTUS chair.

https://www.rferl.org/a/twitter-says.../28986363.html

Trump 2020

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I lived and worked here for over ten years. During that time I employed up to 8 people. So I paid my health insurance and employees. I also brought all my turnover into Czech.

Why do you keep thinking I'm like you, someone barely making a living?

Don't tell us what you do, prove it and show me. Everyone knows who I am.



Isn't it good policy to know what level of a person is trying to get into your country? As you say there are already lots of useless people already there.



Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

Paul, you are are potless failed pornogragher who never quite got the interwebs.

You had to move to a low cost country in order to have a reasonable standard of living. Which if you think about it is the ultimate insult to the migrants that you dispise. They are migrating in some cases just to stay alive. To escape war, famine, political persecution etc.

You migrated because you could get girls to drop their knickers cheaply. The irony.

With regards to my income and tax returns, I could buy and sell you a thousand times over.

Todays turnover for one of my companies will be more than your net worth.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

HAHA HAHA The clueless libs think the Schumer shutdown is Trumps fault! Wrong! Democrat votes were also needed and they failed like always!!

sabotage - deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by RedFred

This is the first time ever a govt shutdown occurred where one party held all 3 branches of govt.

Pretty messed up huh? Repubs control everything and they can't get jack shit done. Pathetic.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Pretty messed up huh? Repubs control everything and they can't get jack shit done. Pathetic.

Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

[Rochard]

Trump threaten to shut down the government in order to get his wall built...

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What I posted was for all countries taking in migrants. Wouldn't you like to know what it costs you as a German taxpayer to take in so many migrants?

would you like to know how prosper the german economy is with that ?

all what you praise here is already refuted when you look at the economy of Germany what did wrong in your eyes what they could do wrong. German debts are already on the way down and the social system is working better as in every other country.

out of that we did not CALL this refugees - ask the ones who are responsable for that.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Or don't you care as you don't pay much tax.

paul i think you did not get one thing on all the charts you are posting.

ALL this spendings there are producing INCOMES on the other end.

spendings are just not good when a country need to borrow money for that and pay interest on it. but the ones who are guilty for that are not alive anymore.
those were people like you are. they did give a fuck in the future and looked just on the today problems.

sure you can resolve many things today when you let your children pay the bill. and this is what you are doing.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

You fucking idiot the GOP holds the majority in the House , the majority in the Senate and they hold the presidency. The GOP is, again, showing they are incapable of governing, filling key government vacancies, and negotiating. Trump FAILS again and little cunts like you run away with your hands flailing in the air lying and blaming people not in control of what your team is fucking up. What a fucking loser you are. Anyone would be stupid to hire you for any kind of work because you would take no responsibility for what you would fuck up and you'd blame someone else what a fucking loser.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

Oh I got it alright. The Repubs have the majority but do not have a Super Majority (thank God) so yes, Democrats are needed. But Repubs get to set the agenda, control the debate, control hearings, etc etc.

No wriggling out of this Trump people. If this were Obama and the Dems controlled all three branches of Gov't your heads would be exploding with rage. Now? Oh it's the DEMS fault. LOL

Again, pathetic.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Do you not realize that's false? Or you're pushing the fake news narrative?

Democrat votes were also needed. The Democrats failed to deliver the needed votes.

don´t you idiot understand that your country is bankrupt already?

what a fuck should democrats vote for money toi build trumps wall when the country can not even pay the city park cleaners.

and did you possibly MISS that a number of republicans also did vote for the shutdown?

it is so funny to see from the far how an idiot is destroying the USA fueled by an even bigger bunch of idiots.

i was reading today a very good article about trumps first year in a german news site and the titel is that what the whole world thinks of him "The destroyer" - there´s no better title for an article about your anti genius.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You fucking idiot the GOP holds the majority in the House , the majority in the Senate and they hold the presidency. The GOP is, again, showing they are incapable of governing, filling key government vacancies, and negotiating. Trump FAILS again and little cunts like you run away with your hands flailing in the air lying and blaming people not in control of what your team is fucking up. What a fucking loser you are. Anyone would be stupid to hire you for any kind of work because you would take no responsibility for what you would fuck up and you'd blame someone else what a fucking loser.

[onwebcam]

Dear morons, 60 votes are needed. Neither side has 60 votes.... I could care less if it stays this way throughout Trump's Presidency.. The federal government should only be providing "essential services" anyway.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Dear morons, 60 votes are needed. Neither side has 60 votes.... I could care less if it stays this way throughout Trump's Presidency.. The federal government should only be providing "essential services" anyway.

Hey idiot even Republicans aren't supporting this that's why the GOP has a problem. Take responsibility for your shit loser when your side fucks up they fuck up own up to it bitch.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by thommy

don´t you idiot understand that your country is bankrupt already?

what a fuck should democrats vote for money toi build trumps wall when the country can not even pay the city park cleaners.

and did you possibly MISS that a number of republicans also did vote for the shutdown?

it is so funny to see from the far how an idiot is destroying the USA fueled by an even bigger bunch of idiots.

i was reading today a very good article about trumps first year in a german news site and the titel is that what the whole world thinks of him "The destroyer" - there´s no better title for an article about your anti genius.

Sometimes people get so wrapped up in "their Team" that they cannot think straight. Look at Futbol fans around the world. Going apeshit bananas over a 1-0 match. The match is more about National Pride and Patriotism than it is about the competition on the field.

So in America, when it comes to Politics, people argue for "their Team" regardless of right and wrong. Most Americans sadly think it's all about "winning" and defeating the other side like it's some kind of sports match. But it isn't. It should be about working together to make the country better. But nope. Both sides fight and argue trying to "win"...what exactly? What is the prize exactly? A "better America"? Ridiculous nonsense.

Geez, at least in a sporting event you get an actual winner/loser, some prize money and a fucking ring or medal. LOL

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Hey idiot even Republicans aren't supporting this that's why the GOP has a problem. Take responsibility for your shit loser when your side fucks up they fuck up own up to it bitch.

Several such as Rand Paul want even further budget cuts.. I'm all for that.. Essential services only... One example he gave was they spent $700 million determining whether Neil Armstrong said "One small step for man" or "One small step for a man"

They couldn't come to a conclusion.

Shut it down... Kill the waste... GET A REAL JOB..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Several such as Rand Paul want even further budget cuts.. I'm all for that.. Essential services only... One example he gave was they spent $700 million determining whether Neil Armstrong said "One small step for man" or "One small step for a man"

They couldn't come to a conclusion.

Shut it down... Kill the waste... GET A REAL JOB..

Ohhhh poor wittle baby his team is losing so now he's gonna cwry wah wah wah you can use my dick as your pacifier bitch or shut the fuck up, act like a man, and take responsibility. You're so full of bullshit how do you even function in the world aside from collecting welfare, which the majority of rednecks in your state are on. Who you blame for your failures in life? Let me guess, you blame black people, Gay people, foreign people & muslims right? I bet you have all sorts of excuses and people to blame for why you don't live up to your potential in life. Nevermind you have no potential you're a born loser.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ohhhh poor wittle baby his team is losing so now he's gonna cwry wah wah wah you can use my dick as your pacifier bitch or shut the fuck up, act like a man, and take responsibility. You're so full of bullshit how do you even function in the world aside from your welfare check I'm surprised you csn even cash it without problems. Who you blame for your failures in life?

How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side right now.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet. Unfortunately, I have no doubt they will reach a compromise that will cost us ALL more money which makes us both on the losing side then....

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet.

You certainly are not the brightest. The last govt shutdown lasted 15 days and cost over $24 billion. Only dropout idiots thinks it's saving money.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

How is my team losing? I, my "team" wants smaller federal government, less government waste.. Appears I'm on the "winning" side right now.. The longer the shutdown continues the less money being drained from my wallet. Unfortunately I have no doubt they will reach a compromise that will cost us ALL more money which makes us both on the losing side then....

This is the problem with the people in your welfare & disability state, total denial & blame. No honor. No integrity. All you care about is getting a few more dollars on your benefits check and when your guys, the top 1% billionaires like Trump, fuck up the government & rob it's treasury, you blame the next guy in power. Typical Confederate cunt.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RedFred

You certainly are not the brightest. The last govt shutdown lasted 15 days and cost over $24 billion. Only dropout idiots thinks it's saving money.

Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.

My life and personal economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown.. The majority of American lives would not be affected. But you keep on being scared into believing it would, that's just what they want.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.

My life and economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown..

Don't you have some roadkill to catch to make your dinner tonight? Get to it! Let us big boys talk politics while you go jerk off to Roy Moore porn, another loser on your team.

[GAMEFINEST]

If you depend on the govt
You are already fucked

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Bullshit, they make a claim that it costs the economy X amount of dollars just so they can give reason as to why they need to tax and (over) spend.

Whatever you say Schleprock.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

My life and personal economy would be affected 0% by the shutdown.. The majority of American lives would not be affected. But you keep on being scared into believing it would, that's just what they want.

Holy fuck you are a fucking moron to think the government shutting down will never affect you what a fucking idiot. And all the government employees not getting paid you don't give a shit about you don't even fucking care what a fucking loser. No offense

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

If you depend on the govt
You are already fucked

When his disability check doesn't get deposited he'll be on here whining like a little bitch.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Holy fuck you are a fucking moron to think the government shutting down will never affect you what a fucking idiot. And all the government employees not getting paid you don't give a shit about you don't even fucking care what a fucking loser. No offense

You're a dumb fuck for believing anything of real importance is actually being shut down... Go try and find anything that will actually affect you.. I'll be waiting.. That is unless you really are government funded TROLL.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You're a dumb fuck for believing anything of real importance is actually being shut down... Go try and find anything that will actually affect you.. I'll be waiting.. That is unless you really are government funded TROLL.

The government affects you princess that's why you lick Trump's ass here every day because you want him to change it to benefit you. You're a fucking hypocrite to say the government doesn't affect you and the government shutting down doesn't affect you. A complete moron. No offense

You have no right to talk politics here if you think the government doesn't affect you. If the government affects you then the government shutting down affects you. It's simple logic.

Trump failed again at negotiating.

Trump failed again at making deals.

Trump failed and the government has shut down because of Trump's failure.

GOP government employees will not be getting paid if Trump's failure continues and the government shutdown continues. Do you understand that? Or is it just all about you and you don't care who Trump's failures hurt and who doesn't get paid and food put on their plate for their hard work.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The government affects you princess that's why you lick Trump's ass here every day because you want him to change it to benefit you. You're a fucking hypocrite to say the government doesn't affect you and the government shutting down doesn't affect you. A complete moron. No offense

You have no right to talk politics here if you think the government doesn't affect you. If the government affects you then the government shutting down affects you. It's simple logic.

Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"

You are really ignorant to facts.

Not paying people their hard-earned wages is wrong and immoral and Trump is doing that by shutting down the government.

Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall.

Trump now says the government will shut down until Americans pay for his wall.

Hard-working American government employees will not get paid because Trump wants Americans to pay for his wall.

Do you understand that?

What do you think the stock market's going to do on Monday if the government is still shut down?

What did the stock market do last time the government shut down?

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Listen here "boy" as you called yourself.. I'm going to say this once again. Nothing of any real importance gets shut down.. It's all wasteful (pork barrel) spending. Such as government funded non-profits paying trolls to frequent internet discussion boards. Or determining whether Armstrong used "a"

Fucking moron doesn't even know what 'pork barrel spending' means.

Pork barrel is a metaphor for the appropriation of government spending for localized projects secured solely or primarily to bring money to a representative's district.

Tell us genius, just how is maintaining National Parks 'pork barrel spending'?

Jesus Christ you're stupid.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are really ignorant to facts.

Not paying people their hard-earned wages is wrong and immoral and Trump is doing that by shutting down the government.

Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall.

Trump now says the government will shut down until Americans pay for his wall.

Hard-working American government employees will not get paid because Trump wants Americans to pay for his wall.

Do you understand that?

What do you think the stock market's going to do on Monday if the government is still shut down?

What did the stock market do last time the government shut down?

Hard earned money? If you don't have a job you don't get paid.. If a company downsizes then people lose jobs.. It should be no different for government. If you don't have the funds then people lose jobs.. It's that simple.. If you think Trump voters give a flying fuck you are seriously mistaken.. He was voted into office for less government. Democrats just gave us much less. And Trump served it up on a silver plater.