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EonBlue · 01-20-2018, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Our country's founding document contains the sentence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

That is perhaps the most defining statement of what "The United States of America" means.

We treat everyone as an equal. No matter how humble their particular beginnings were.

We relaxed the rules for Haitians and Salvadorans because of the devastation of their countries due to earthquakes and hurricanes.

It is important, from a securiy standpoint, for the U.S. to be the one helping people from the Western Hemisphere when they need it. The U.S. should be the primary provider of these services because if we don't do it, someone without our interests in mind probably will (reference Cuba and Russia).

The Monroe doctrine was one of the most important principals for United States security, now as much as in the past.

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You are on a suicide mission.

OneHungLo · 01-20-2018, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Our country's founding document contains the sentence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

That is perhaps the most defining statement of what "The United States of America" means.

We treat everyone as an equal. No matter how humble their particular beginnings were.

We relaxed the rules for Haitians and Salvadorans because of the devastation of their countries due to earthquakes and hurricanes.

It is important, from a securiy standpoint, for the U.S. to be the one helping people from the Western Hemisphere when they need it. The U.S. should be the primary provider of these services because if we don't do it, someone without our interests in mind probably will (reference Cuba and Russia).

The Monroe doctrine was one of the most important principals for United States security, now as much as in the past.

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Well when that was written there weren't 100,000,000+ people on welfare. Are you an open borders kind of guy? Do you really think we should be taking in millions of poor, uneducated people that will jump on the dole?

Bladewire · 01-20-2018, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

No it hasn't. Ever hear of chain migration? Look it up. Over 44% of immigrants entered through chain migration last year.

Smart people don't want to immigrate to my country with Trump as POTUS so we're forced to take dumber people. Google it!

Acepimp · 01-20-2018, 10:47 PM

Let's get real- illegal immigrants cost taxpayers 120 Billion / year. It's absurd to import millions of welfare recipients. The left doesn't care, they're just desperate for more voters. It's just another democrat voter fraud scam

OneHungLo · 01-20-2018, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Smart people don't want to immigrate to my country with Trump as POTUS so we're forced to take dumber people. Google it!

Good.. we don't need any people that are against our president anyways

sarettah · 01-20-2018, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Well when that was written there weren't 100,000,000+ people on welfare.

Do you even know what the Monroe doctrine is?

Based on your response, I am doubting it.

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Bladewire · 01-20-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Good.. we don't need any people that are against our president anyways

Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. all have affordable healthcare. The healthcare & drugs in Australia when I lived there were so cheap cost of living was awesome. Trump wants to have only privatized healthcare in America and take away affordable healthcare for millions of Americans. Immigrants should be stupid to choose America over other Western developed countries.

astronaut x · 01-20-2018, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp

Let's get real- illegal immigrants cost taxpayers 120 Billion / year. It's absurd to import millions of welfare recipients. The left doesn't care, they're just desperate for more voters. It's just another democrat voter fraud scam

Corporations profit from illegal immigrants. Keeping them illegal guarantees slave status.

Corporations are the biggest welfare recipients in the country, and its not even close.

Rochard · 01-20-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Our country's founding document contains the sentence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

That is perhaps the most defining statement of what "The United States of America" means.

We treat everyone as an equal. No matter how humble their particular beginnings were.

We relaxed the rules for Haitians and Salvadorans because of the devastation of their countries due to earthquakes and hurricanes.

It is important, from a securiy standpoint, for the U.S. to be the one helping people from the Western Hemisphere when they need it. The U.S. should be the primary provider of these services because if we don't do it, someone without our interests in mind probably will (reference Cuba and Russia).

The Monroe doctrine was one of the most important principals for United States security, now as much as in the past.

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Powerful statement right there. Nice job.

Bladewire · 01-21-2018, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Well when that was written there weren't 100,000,000+ people on welfare. Are you an open borders kind of guy? Do you really think we should be taking in millions of poor, uneducated people that will jump on the dole?

Trump Wants Families On Food Stamps To Get Jobs. The Majority Already Work

"It found that 54 percent of the families who turn to pantries to help put food on the table have at least one member working, and that rate was much higher, 71 percent, for households with kids."

The Porn Nerd · 01-21-2018, 12:13 AM

Damn Mexicans.
Their women have great asses tho, you have to admit that.

MiamiBoyz · 01-21-2018, 12:17 AM

sarettah · 01-21-2018, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp

It will prove nothing- but the Dems are desperate to hide it! LoL

BREAKING: House Intel Committee Officially Begins Process To #ReleaseTheMemo

Based on what members of Congress are saying, the contents of this memo will be so shocking, so outrageous, that people around the world will be stunned at the massive criminality of the previous admin. It will lead to the eventual takedown of the criminals

“I don’t think that there’s anything you’re going to see in that memo that’s going to be a surprise,” said Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.). “It’s what we believe based on what we’ve researched.”

So, according to a member of the intelligence committee it is "WHAT WE BELIEVE", not what has been proven, not what is fact but WHAT WE BELIEVE.

So, it is conjecture, pure and simple.

Fierce battle erupts over releasing intelligence report | TheHill

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EonBlue · 01-21-2018, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Canada, the UK, Australia, etc. all have affordable healthcare. The healthcare & drugs in Australia when I lived there were so cheap cost of living was awesome. Trump wants to have only privatized healthcare in America and take away affordable healthcare for millions of Americans. Immigrants should be stupid to choose America over other Western developed countries.

Our healthcare is "affordable" because we pay way more in taxes than you do. And for all that we get very lengthy wait times for treatment. Wait times for diagnostics and specialists are several months in most cases.

But it's all well and good for the rich and politicians because they just hop across the border into the US to get treatment on demand.

EonBlue · 01-21-2018, 01:40 AM

A good read for anyone that is not at risk of being triggered:

What I Learned in the Peace Corps in Africa: Trump Is Right

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Three weeks after college, I flew to Senegal, West Africa, to run a community center in a rural town. Life was placid, with no danger, except to your health. That danger was considerable, because it was, in the words of the Peace Corps doctor, "a fecalized environment."

In plain English: s--- is everywhere. People defecate on the open ground, and the feces is blown with the dust ? onto you, your clothes, your food, the water. He warned us the first day of training: do not even touch water. Human feces carries parasites that bore through your skin and cause organ failure.

Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that a few decades later, liberals would be pushing the lie that Western civilization is no better than a third-world country. Or would teach two generations of our kids that loving your own culture and wanting to preserve it are racism.

thommy · 01-21-2018, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

A good read for anyone that is not at risk of being triggered:

What I Learned in the Peace Corps in Africa: Trump Is Right

what is new on that?

who said that these countries are great spots to live ?

and WHY don´t you see the advantage in that?

if you would have the smallest clue HOW an economy works you would know that THIS is the biggest chance the western world had to grow.

if you would really understand that and read the numbers you would know that your country is already fucked when all this "shithole countries" stop to buy from you.
AND: they do not buy from you because you are so great - they bought from you because they got credit lines - what they have to pay back later (with work - and work bring money - and money brings more consumption)

actually the "shitholes" of 30 years ago lend you money now and you need their production more as they need yours.

you will see in 2 or 3 years (because the effect of the present damages will need that time) HOW fucked you are already and HOW much trump fucked up your economy, your social structures (what are a joke anyway) and your society.

you want to ignore the world? ok than accept that the world ignores you.
go back to stone age and feel well. but i am pretty sure that the majority of americans will not allow longer this brainless politics.

I hope really that the day will come when a society is strong enough to throw people like you out to africa. than you can show how genius you are and build your own third reich ideocracy there. you can obviously do it better - than do it !

ilnjscb · 01-21-2018, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

what is new on that?

who said that these countries are great spots to live ?

and WHY don´t you see the advantage in that?

if you would have the smallest clue HOW an economy works you would know that THIS is the biggest chance the western world had to grow.

if you would really understand that and read the numbers you would know that your country is already fucked when all this "shithole countries" stop to buy from you.
AND: they do not buy from you because you are so great - they bought from you because they got credit lines - what they have to pay back later (with work - and work bring money - and money brings more consumption)

actually the "shitholes" of 30 years ago lend you money now and you need their production more as they need yours.

you will see in 2 or 3 years (because the effect of the present damages will need that time) HOW fucked you are already and HOW much trump fucked up your economy, your social structures (what are a joke anyway) and your society.

you want to ignore the world? ok than accept that the world ignores you.
go back to stone age and feel well. but i am pretty sure that the majority of americans will not allow longer this brainless politics.

I hope really that the day will come when a society is strong enough to throw people like you out to africa. than you can show how genius you are and build your own third reich ideocracy there. you can obviously do it better - than do it !

People from outside the US say that ceaselessly regardless of who is president. They said it with Reagan, with Bush, and the US economy is still the largest economy. "The world will move beyond you" is a refrain we hear again and again. Textbooks were declaring the end of US hegemony in 1992.

The US has several distinct topographical advantages that make up for its grave weaknesses.

Two things right now threaten the US in truth. Civil war, and nuclear war. Nothing else. The world needs food, power, safety and money. The US has more of those than anyone else.

If you'd care to go into specific countries that will abandon the US, I can debate you specifically on each country.

MaDalton · 01-21-2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

. The world needs food, power, safety and money. The US has more of those than anyone else.

while that may be correct if you just look at total numbers, you cannot ignore the huge inequality in distribution in the US

perhaps the most wealthy sweds, norwegians, germans etc are not as wealthy as the most wealthy americans - but you will also not see situations like Skid Row in LA or other homeless hotspots like Philadelphia

And no matter which president in the recent decades - i don't see the willingness to change the culture in general to a more caring society. The general american attitude is "it's your own fault if you are homeless, unemployed, drug addicted etc"

Meanwhile you can see in any other country that takes a more social caring approach, that it benefits the society overall.

The only problem with that is that you need to go outside and talk to real people, the internet has become a place that is to a very large degree an outlet for people detached from the real world and that virtually high five each other the more crass and derogating things you write.

See GFY as prime example.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul the migrant hates migrants

I love migrants who bring value to a country. The NHS wouldn't be able to function without foreign nurses, doctors, surgeons. I just think migrants who suck from a country should be kept out.

But the idea of filtering migrants is too complicated for you tiny racist brain.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX

I doubt that very much, I do believe he despises politicians who made it all possible...

Not that you would understand.

I hate the bosses who told the politicians to do this. It has made them money by forcing wages to stabilise or drop.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Paul, you are are potless failed pornogragher who never quite got the interwebs.

You had to move to a low cost country in order to have a reasonable standard of living. Which if you think about it is the ultimate insult to the migrants that you dispise. They are migrating in some cases just to stay alive. To escape war, famine, political persecution etc.

You migrated because you could get girls to drop their knickers cheaply. The irony.

With regards to my income and tax returns, I could buy and sell you a thousand times over.

Todays turnover for one of my companies will be more than your net worth.

None of which addresses my post. What does a migrant, unemployed, on minimum wage, on a low wage, doing the job a British man, of any colour, can do? Cost.

Here is what it costs you.

This is what it costs you to have so many leeching off the country. Look at the year, it's been rising steadily since then.

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In 2012, the British population numbered around 64 million, and the debt, therefore, amounted to a little over £15,000 for each individual Briton or around £33,000 per person in employment. Each household in Britain pays an average of around £2,000 per year in taxes to finance the interest.

Only migrants who can survive without ant help come to Czech.

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According to the last data point published, the Czech Republic per capita debt in 2016 was 6,795 dollars (£4902) per inhabitant. In 2015 it was 7,144 dollars, afterwards dropping by 349dollars, and if we again check 2006 we can see that then the debt per person was 4,335 dollars.

My argument is purely financial, what's yours based on?

The Porn Nerd · 01-21-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

while that may be correct if you just look at total numbers, you cannot ignore the huge inequality in distribution in the US

perhaps the most wealthy sweds, norwegians, germans etc are not as wealthy as the most wealthy americans - but you will also not see situations like Skid Row in LA or other homeless hotspots like Philadelphia

And no matter which president in the recent decades - i don't see the willingness to change the culture in general to a more caring society. The general american attitude is "it's your own fault if you are homeless, unemployed, drug addicted etc"

Meanwhile you can see in any other country that takes a more social caring approach, that it benefits the society overall.

The only problem with that is that you need to go outside and talk to real people, the internet has become a place that is to a very large degree an outlet for people detached from the real world and that virtually high five each other the more crass and derogating things you write.

See GFY as prime example.

Excellent points. Most Americans are sheltered, do not travel outside the US and spend their entire lives within 10 miles of where they were born.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

would you like to know how prosper the german economy is with that ?

all what you praise here is already refuted when you look at the economy of Germany what did wrong in your eyes what they could do wrong. German debts are already on the way down and the social system is working better as in every other country.

out of that we did not CALL this refugees - ask the ones who are responsable for that.

Does not address my post. What is the cost of all the migrants Merkel allowed in?

German taxes. Who Pays More in Taxes? U.S. vs. Europe, Developed Countries | Money and when the UK leaves dropping corporation taxes will encourage more to German business to come to the UK.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

paul i think you did not get one thing on all the charts you are posting.

ALL this spendings there are producing INCOMES on the other end.

spendings are just not good when a country need to borrow money for that and pay interest on it. but the ones who are guilty for that are not alive anymore.
those were people like you are. they did give a fuck in the future and looked just on the today problems.

sure you can resolve many things today when you let your children pay the bill. and this is what you are doing.

So money in German's pockets doesn't get spent. Once again I shoot down your argument because it's stupid.

EonBlue · 01-21-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

what is new on that?

who said that these countries are great spots to live ?

and WHY don´t you see the advantage in that?

if you would have the smallest clue HOW an economy works you would know that THIS is the biggest chance the western world had to grow.

if you would really understand that and read the numbers you would know that your country is already fucked when all this "shithole countries" stop to buy from you.
AND: they do not buy from you because you are so great - they bought from you because they got credit lines - what they have to pay back later (with work - and work bring money - and money brings more consumption)

actually the "shitholes" of 30 years ago lend you money now and you need their production more as they need yours.

you will see in 2 or 3 years (because the effect of the present damages will need that time) HOW fucked you are already and HOW much trump fucked up your economy, your social structures (what are a joke anyway) and your society.

you want to ignore the world? ok than accept that the world ignores you.
go back to stone age and feel well. but i am pretty sure that the majority of americans will not allow longer this brainless politics.

I hope really that the day will come when a society is strong enough to throw people like you out to africa. than you can show how genius you are and build your own third reich ideocracy there. you can obviously do it better - than do it !

You are a complete whack-job.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are really ignorant to facts.

Not paying people their hard-earned wages is wrong and immoral and Trump is doing that by shutting down the government.

Trump said Mexico will pay for the wall.

Trump now says the government will shut down until Americans pay for his wall.

Hard-working American government employees will not get paid because Trump wants Americans to pay for his wall.

Do you understand that?

What do you think the stock market's going to do on Monday if the government is still shut down?

What did the stock market do last time the government shut down?

Democrats are as much to blame as Republicans. It was a decision made in the Senate. Where they will fight like dogs over and crap.

thommy · 01-21-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So money in German's pockets doesn't get spent. Once again I shoot down your argument because it's stupid.

do you know what a domestic market ist and WHY it is so important?

and now take the foreigners who live in a country out - do you at least believe that this will hurt the domestic market?

do you believe that MORE people result in MORE consumption or do you think that germans will eat double as much as when there is no foreigner in the country ?

do you know that Germany ALREADY is in need of high skilled workers and do you believe that EVERY high skilled worker was born like that?

once again: there are countries who will go your way - in a few years you will see the difference because NOW you will not understand it and you DON`T WANT to understand it.

your theory is good to fuck a country up but not good to give it prosperity.
you do not understand the world as one big globe - you understand it only from the view of the mouse hole you live in.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

do you know what a domestic market ist and WHY it is so important?

and now take the foreigners who live in a country out - do you at least believe that this will hurt the domestic market?

do you believe that MORE people result in MORE consumption or do you think that germans will eat double as much as when there is no foreigner in the country ?

do you know that Germany ALREADY is in need of high skilled workers and do you believe that EVERY high skilled worker was born like that?

once again: there are countries who will go your way - in a few years you will see the difference because NOW you will not understand it and you DON`T WANT to understand it.

your theory is good to fuck a country up but not good to give it prosperity.
you do not understand the world as one big globe - you understand it only from the view of the mouse hole you live in.

Money controls consumption. Not the population. Otherwise, Turkey would be as wealthy as Germany. You really are uneducated in economics.

Paul Markham · 01-21-2018, 03:16 PM

Refugees and low skilled migrants devastate an economy.

Impact refugee crisis on Germany's economy - Business Insider

The economic impact of Europe's refugee crisis | Euronews

https://www.economist.com/news/finan...-wages-good-or

The last one is interesting. Europe’s new arrivals will probably dent public finances, but not wages That's because they won't be getting jobs. Normally migrants come to work and do effect wages.

But Thommy thinks the more people, the more money there is.

thommy · 01-21-2018, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Money controls consumption. Not the population. Otherwise, Turkey would be as wealthy as Germany. You really are uneducated in economics.

I give up - it does not make sense to discuss that with you.
you do not have the smallest clue of the basics of economy and you will never have it.

Steve Rupe · 01-21-2018, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

I give up - it does not make sense to discuss that with you.
you do not have the smallest clue of the basics of economy and you will never have it.

Markham is uneducated and doesn't have a clue about almost all subjects he speaks about. He is and always has been ignorant and simply has learned to copy and paste but is ignorant about what it all means.

Robbie · 01-21-2018, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Excellent points. Most Americans are sheltered, do not travel outside the US and spend their entire lives within 10 miles of where they were born.

I'd guess that most Europeans do too.

Sure the ballers here on GFY get to travel a bit. But the normal working people in Europe? Highly doubt it.

Just watching Anthony Bourdain's CNN show "Parts Unknown" where he travels the world...I saw him in Sicily eating horse with people that was bought on a street market.
Looking at those people...they have never been 5 miles from home, much less 10. lol

It's easy to make fun of the U.S., but not everyone in Europe has a ton of money to go traveling all over the world either.

And I'd say that just as many U.S. citizens who DO have that kind of money travel the world as do Europeans who have the money to travel.

People living week to week trying to take care of their families don't travel internationally.

thommy · 01-22-2018, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Markham is uneducated and doesn't have a clue about almost all subjects he speaks about. He is and always has been ignorant and simply has learned to copy and paste but is ignorant about what it all means.

even worse is that he does not have economic skills. if he would, he would also search for other stats and economic logics.

he calls me dumb an uneducated - why he does not do the same with the IMF (as ONE example) who is full of economic professionals who see it same as i do ?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

are they also uneducated ?
wo than i would like to know why a economic genius like paul can not afford to live in his home country with all his great economic skills. normal he should be already the prime minister there and fix all the british problems with his easy solutions.

but apart from that the word "refugee" is not a word from the economic world. it is a word what describes a HUMAN disaster what can only be resolved by HUMANITY.

all these countries what are refusing to take refugees have signed the same contract as Germany did it. instead of standing to their word they are blaming a country who have this overload BECAUSE they have to handel it alone and without the help from countries who have signed for the same burden.

germany took a few million of this people - much more as it was prepared to take - and yes under this few million have been a few hundred or maybe even a few thousand what would not get in the country under normal circumstances (with help from the ones what signed for it).

the funny thing is that Germany did not only face a relative small number of terror attacks (the US and UK who took near to zero refugees faced MUCH more) - Germany came back from the financial crisis as one of the strongest economies in the world - even better as before.

Germany is facing the lowest unemployment rate since the reunion of east and west.

sure there are still problems - nobody said it is easy - and as I said, it would not be that hard if every other country would stand for what they have signed for.
but Germany will also manage that and will be able to grow AND help AND benefit.

so i really don´t know what he wants to tell us?

if Germany is such a bad example why is is than worldwide in the best condition of all ?

all that show me not only the missing skills about economy it also shows me the ignorance of facts. that´s why it does not make sense to discuss.

btw: the sentence "Money controls consumption. Not the population." is the best example to show that he does not even have a clue what money is.
i hope his wife can teach him monopoly and when he wins, let´s see wich great idea he have to get consumption.

thommy · 01-22-2018, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I'd guess that most Europeans do too.

Sure the ballers here on GFY get to travel a bit. But the normal working people in Europe? Highly doubt it.

i searched some number for you

usa citizens travelling abroad (2016) = 37,4 million (aproximately 11% of the populateion)

german citizens traveling aboroad (2016) = 53,4 million (aproximately 62% of the population)

sure that is not representative for whole europe but the interesting part is the following:

citizens of right wing, populist, protectionist countries are travelling same or even less than us citizens.

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And I'd say that just as many U.S. citizens who DO have that kind of money travel the world as do Europeans who have the money to travel.

that would explain why i mainly meet us citizens in europe who hate trump.

kane · 01-22-2018, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i searched some number for you

usa citizens travelling abroad (2016) = 37,4 million (aproximately 11% of the populateion)

german citizens traveling aboroad (2016) = 53,4 million (aproximately 62% of the population)

sure that is not representative for whole europe but the interesting part is the following:

citizens of right wing, populist, protectionist countries are travelling same or even less than us citizens.

that would explain why i mainly meet us citizens in europe who hate trump.

A quick question about this. When it comes to Germany do they consider "abroad" as visiting another country, or actually crossing an ocean? I say this because in Europe you can hope a train and go just about anywhere on the continent pretty easily so it isn't hard to visit a lot of different countries, but in the US, not so much.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2018, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

Markham is uneducated and doesn't have a clue about almost all subjects he speaks about. He is and always has been ignorant and simply has learned to copy and paste but is ignorant about what it all means.

I search the Internet to make up for my lack of knowledge. Do the sameand come up with proof you're right.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2018, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

even worse is that he does not have economic skills. if he would, he would also search for other stats and economic logics.

he calls me dumb an uneducated - why he does not do the same with the IMF (as ONE example) who is full of economic professionals who see it same as i do ?

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

are they also uneducated ?
wo than i would like to know why a economic genius like paul can not afford to live in his home country with all his great economic skills. normal he should be already the prime minister there and fix all the british problems with his easy solutions.

but apart from that the word "refugee" is not a word from the economic world. it is a word what describes a HUMAN disaster what can only be resolved by HUMANITY.

all these countries what are refusing to take refugees have signed the same contract as Germany did it. instead of standing to their word they are blaming a country who have this overload BECAUSE they have to handel it alone and without the help from countries who have signed for the same burden.

germany took a few million of this people - much more as it was prepared to take - and yes under this few million have been a few hundred or maybe even a few thousand what would not get in the country under normal circumstances (with help from the ones what signed for it).

the funny thing is that Germany did not only face a relative small number of terror attacks (the US and UK who took near to zero refugees faced MUCH more) - Germany came back from the financial crisis as one of the strongest economies in the world - even better as before.

Germany is facing the lowest unemployment rate since the reunion of east and west.

sure there are still problems - nobody said it is easy - and as I said, it would not be that hard if every other country would stand for what they have signed for.
but Germany will also manage that and will be able to grow AND help AND benefit.

so i really don´t know what he wants to tell us?

if Germany is such a bad example why is is than worldwide in the best condition of all ?

all that show me not only the missing skills about economy it also shows me the ignorance of facts. that´s why it does not make sense to discuss.

btw: the sentence "Money controls consumption. Not the population." is the best example to show that he does not even have a clue what money is.
i hope his wife can teach him monopoly and when he wins, let´s see wich great idea he have to get consumption.

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IMF says refugee influx could provide EU economic boost.

Migration into Europe could lift GDP via greater state spending and long-term boost to jobs market with negative effects short-lived, says report

I'm intelligent to know the word could is will. And that extra government spending needs higher taxes and or higher debt.

As for more jobs, where are the vacancies going to appear with Globalisation and automation? https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&s....0.vSrociOYXSk

Thes people must be idiots to.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i searched some number for you

usa citizens travelling abroad (2016) = 37,4 million (aproximately 11% of the populateion)

german citizens traveling aboroad (2016) = 53,4 million (aproximately 62% of the population)

sure that is not representative for whole europe but the interesting part is the following:

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Most Europeans can drive 200 miles od lass to visit a different country. Now compare that to Americans. You're an idiot.

Drive Across Europe: 12 Countries in 24 Hours - Inspires by Avis

Boston to LA 3,000 miles.

I link to articles to show I don't pull facts out of my ass and it's easier to show how little you know. You should try it.

thommy · 01-22-2018, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

A quick question about this. When it comes to Germany do they consider "abroad" as visiting another country, or actually crossing an ocean? I say this because in Europe you can hope a train and go just about anywhere on the continent pretty easily so it isn't hard to visit a lot of different countries, but in the US, not so much.

germans do not have to cross an ocean to see a VERY other culture.
btw. US citizens don´t have to do that either.
you have a border with latin america on the same continent.

but "far travels" are trendy since many many years.

I can not find numbers right now but I would assume that around 30% of all travelers
go on other continents.

another aspect is that i just told you about the number of travelers and not the number of travels what would be even higher because german´s have quite a lot of holidays and many of them travel 2 or 3 times per year.

as i personally know a lot of americans what i met in europe, in asia and in the rest of the world I think I can also tell you that the average (travelling) american is something completely else as the group what represents usa here.
the americans i met personally i love and respect a lot.

i was growing up in a generation after WW2 what was mostly formed from american influence. when i was a boy i thought all americans are superman.
and i still WANT TO BELIEVE that the majority of them are because without america the world would not be the same place. many great inventions came from there - even when they where made from immigrants. but the freedom of america and the curiosity of america gave them the chance to do it. this is what i STILL respect this country for.

but the USA are on a dangerous way and there are a lot of things to fix (not only since trump). one of it is the free education what is necessary to give democracy a sense and to let EDUCATED people decide who should lead a country.

this is not the case because in the country who INVENTED modern marketing only a small minority knows what a market is and what the rules of economy are.
in this case (were you should be number 1 in the world) the rest of the world has overtaken america.

even in african countries kids get get this type of education for free. that´s why african immigrants to the US are among the most educated groups in the usa. 48.9 percent of all african immigrants hold a college diploma what is more than double the rate of native-born white americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born african americans.

so fix your problems at the roots !

thommy · 01-22-2018, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Most Europeans can drive 200 miles od lass to visit a different country. Now compare that to Americans. You're an idiot.

Drive Across Europe: 12 Countries in 24 Hours - Inspires by Avis

Boston to LA 3,000 miles.

I link to articles to show I don't pull facts out of my ass and it's easier to show how little you know. You should try it.

let the "idiot" fill your dark and uneducated world with wisdom

https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/...pting-refugees

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

https://phys.org/news/2016-06-refuge...countries.html

https://euobserver.com/business/133474

what a shame that all those people who studied economy and doing the whole day nothing else than research and reading statistics are ALL DUMBER THAN YOU.

paul you are an old dumb fart with NO CLUE of anything you write about.

we all love you as the semi professional porn producer you have been - because you made the best from what you are able to do.
don´t show up now and tell us that you know how to fix the problems of the world with the skills of a semi professional cunt photographer.

you might know something about pussies - so better tell us something about that and find some stats that proves that you have done your life's work for the good of humanity.

you aren´t good for anything else - live with it.

btw - THIS DUMBSHIT needs an extra answer:

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Most Europeans can drive 200 miles od lass to visit a different country. Now compare that to Americans. You're an idiot.

this is one of your DUMBEST STATEMENTS you ever made.

if i understand that correct this is the reason why the ones who do not KNOW the world (because it is too far) can RULE the world and KNOW what is the best for the world?

paul YOU are the idiot !

MsCheyenne · 01-22-2018, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy

Not Much will actually 'close'.
Even when they get past this, the next hurdle will be raising the debt ceiling to borrow the money they are not collecting in taxes anymore.
So, I expect 'FEES' to go up since they will not agree on what to cut.
Everything they ever told us of how important it is to move to a 'balanced budget' is out the window.
All credibility has been flushed down the drain.
Elect more independents ! Deny both a majority.
Things will actually change.

This is a quote from John Adams. George Washington also spoke out against a two party system.

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."

pimpmaster9000 · 01-22-2018, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I love migrants who bring value to a country. The NHS wouldn't be able to function without foreign nurses, doctors, surgeons. I just think migrants who suck from a country should be kept out.

But the idea of filtering migrants is too complicated for you tiny racist brain.

paul you did not bring value you went to exploit and promote your own personal financial agenda...just like illegals...you are the poster boy for "low skilled migrant leech"

thommy · 01-22-2018, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."

words of wisdom

Paul Markham · 01-22-2018, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

let the "idiot" fill your dark and uneducated world with wisdom

https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/...pting-refugees

https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost

https://phys.org/news/2016-06-refuge...countries.html

https://euobserver.com/business/133474

what a shame that all those people who studied economy and doing the whole day nothing else than research and reading statistics are ALL DUMBER THAN YOU.

paul you are an old dumb fart with NO CLUE of anything you write about.

we all love you as the semi professional porn producer you have been - because you made the best from what you are able to do.
don´t show up now and tell us that you know how to fix the problems of the world with the skills of a semi professional cunt photographer.

you might know something about pussies - so better tell us something about that and find some stats that proves that you have done your life's work for the good of humanity.

you aren´t good for anything else - live with it.

https://www.google.cz/search?dcr=0&s....0.Xcy2L2HXG2g

Reread https://www.theguardian.com/business...economic-boost it's full of if's and says they have to build houses, who will pay for them?

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The researchers used economic modeling methods, based on local surveys, to simulate the impact of the refugees on the host-country economy within a 10-km radius of the three refugee camps. They found that cash aid to the refugees had a greater positive impact on the host nation's economy than did in-kind food aid.

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2016-06-refuge...tries.html#jCp

Which money tree does the aid come from?

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this is one of your DUMBEST STATEMENTS you ever made.

if i understand that correct this is the reason why the ones who do not KNOW the world (because it is too far) can RULE the world and KNOW what is the best for the world?

That's not what you said.

I would agree with you that most Americans are uneducated about what happens outside the US. But they don't go abroad because of the size of America and the holiday options.

MaDalton · 01-22-2018, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I'd guess that most Europeans do too.

Sure the ballers here on GFY get to travel a bit. But the normal working people in Europe? Highly doubt it.

Just watching Anthony Bourdain's CNN show "Parts Unknown" where he travels the world...I saw him in Sicily eating horse with people that was bought on a street market.
Looking at those people...they have never been 5 miles from home, much less 10. lol

It's easy to make fun of the U.S., but not everyone in Europe has a ton of money to go traveling all over the world either.

And I'd say that just as many U.S. citizens who DO have that kind of money travel the world as do Europeans who have the money to travel.

People living week to week trying to take care of their families don't travel internationally.

well - at least on mainland Europe it's much easier than in the US - I can travel 5-6 different countries (and cultures) in one day if i wanted to

but on the other hand i have been recently to some small villages in Scotland that probably didn't change much for the last hundreds of years and I now understand better that those people really don't care much about things like gender equality, gay marriage or other "liberal" talking points

2MuchMark · 01-22-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp

Let's get real- illegal immigrants cost taxpayers 120 Billion / year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-soc...p-the-economy/

NewNick · 01-22-2018, 08:24 AM

Jesus.

I nearly replied to Markham again.

I really must try and control these futile self destructive urges.

Pings elastic band around wrist.

ilnjscb · 01-22-2018, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

while that may be correct if you just look at total numbers, you cannot ignore the huge inequality in distribution in the US

perhaps the most wealthy sweds, norwegians, germans etc are not as wealthy as the most wealthy americans - but you will also not see situations like Skid Row in LA or other homeless hotspots like Philadelphia

And no matter which president in the recent decades - i don't see the willingness to change the culture in general to a more caring society. The general american attitude is "it's your own fault if you are homeless, unemployed, drug addicted etc"

Meanwhile you can see in any other country that takes a more social caring approach, that it benefits the society overall.

I agree with you 100% about wealth inequality. I also agree with you about - mostly - the uncaring attitude.

However, this post was on US global position, not individual wealth and welfare. Note that in Victorian England wealth inequality was even greater, yet this small island ran half the world. Does it produce vulnerability? Yes. For now however, the position of the US is secure do to those attributes listed above.

thommy · 01-22-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-soc...p-the-economy/

give it up - they will not understand that money what is spend inside an economy CAN NOT be lost.

they will not understand that this money that goes back into the circle for buying food, paying rent and even create the job for the person who decide who receive social welfare
is part of the economy and GNP.
they will not understand that money have to circle through as many hands as possible to create prosperity.

they don´t know that more people means more production because more people have more needs.

they will not understand it because they are uneducated when it comes to the rules of economy. they do not unterstand that complex issues needs complex thoughts.

paul and many other "wise guys" here trying to discuss this topic on the level of a 5 year old because they don´t have a clue of the monetary circulation.

i would really love to see how they get fucked up with their ideas but the problem is that we have only one world and can´t give them a playground where they can learn how wrong they are.

i remember when the tubes came up and paul said that they will not survive.
just another wrong assessment.

Acepimp · 01-22-2018, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-soc...p-the-economy/

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Originally Posted by thommy

give it up - they will not understand that money what is spend inside an economy CAN NOT be lost.

they will not understand that this money that goes back into the circle for buying food, paying rent and even create the job for the person who decide who receive social welfare
is part of the economy and GNP.
they will not understand that money have to circle through as many hands as possible to create prosperity.

WRONG! The Dems just want to import cheap labor and more voters.

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