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Old 01-25-2018, 01:10 AM   #1
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:01 AM   #2
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Seems Ron has denied the more serious allegations & has said these are lies. He admits to groping a few women, saying he also was groped by the girls. In photo shoots and messing about, it does happen & considering the serious allegations are said to be lies, I would have thought until this goes to court & is proven, AVN, continue with innocent until proven guilty. AVN are obviously making a big statement from this
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just imagine, some porn whore just finished up her orgy scene including double anal, and as she starts to wipe the goo from 5 different cocks off of her face Ron pats her ass and says 'good performance'. She is so shocked by this invading behavior and starts screaming 'HERASSMENT! METOO!!! METOOO!!1!' while she is cleaning up the cum of 5 strangers from her face.
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I guess AVN is developing the French system of guilty til proven innocent. lol.
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just imagine, some porn whore just finished up her orgy scene including double anal, and as she starts to wipe the goo from 5 different cocks off of her face Ron pats her ass and says 'good performance'. She is so shocked by this invading behavior and starts screaming 'HERASSMENT! METOO!!! METOOO!!1!' while she is cleaning up the cum of 5 strangers from her face.
You don't even work in our industry fuck off. You will never goto an industry show and you hate Americans and American culture and you're a foreigner. Fuck off Polish Aristocrat!
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You don't even work in our industry fuck off. You will never goto an industry show and you hate Americans and American culture and you're a foreigner. Fuck off Polish Aristocrat!
You sure do have a lot of hate for foreigners.
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I saw a tape of ron jeremy doing a whole lot worse than grope women...instant prison shit...It is amazing I seem to be the only one in the know about it...the footage in question was shot some 20-25 years ago...
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The first time I was introduced to Ron at a show, he reached out, grabbed my boobs and said, 'nice tits'. I never screamed harassment, although I did make sure to stand further away from him the next time.
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I saw a tape of ron jeremy doing a whole lot worse than grope women...instant prison shit...It is amazing I seem to be the only one in the know about it...the footage in question was shot some 20-25 years ago...
Yeah he was way over the top and he knows it
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Yeah he was way over the top and he knows it
lets just say that it was waaaaaay illegal...waaaaaaaaaay....
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The first time I was introduced to Ron at a show, he reached out, grabbed my boobs and said, 'nice tits'. I never screamed harassment, although I did make sure to stand further away from him the next time.
Girls shouldn't go-to shows worried they'll be groped in the crotch or chest by anyone without permission. It's easy to say "May I?" as your had is extended and wait for confirmation before placing it upon the breast
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The first time I was introduced to Ron at a show, he reached out, grabbed my boobs and said, 'nice tits'. I never screamed harassment, although I did make sure to stand further away from him the next time.
I saw that countless times, over the years, no one complained till Now ?
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hypocrites

just imagine, some porn whore just finished up her orgy scene including double anal, and as she starts to wipe the goo from 5 different cocks off of her face Ron pats her ass and says 'good performance'. She is so shocked by this invading behavior and starts screaming 'HERASSMENT! METOO!!! METOOO!!1!' while she is cleaning up the cum of 5 strangers from her face.
I disagree.

I know Ron, great guy, great memory. One time during Internext I got into an elevator with one of our models and much to our surprise Ron walked in behind us. He took one look at the model and said "great hooters" and just grabbed them. I'm all about having fun and all of that, but you cannot just go around grabbing women's breasts in public.
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I saw that countless times, over the years, no one complained till Now ?
Why lie?

Girls have been complaining about this going on at shows for years and posting their stories online.

It's very simple:

1) Extend your hands with a smile

2) Say "May I ?"

3) Upon confirmation, place hands upon breasts.

Still creepy yet satisfying right?
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The first time I was introduced to Ron at a show, he reached out, grabbed my boobs and said, 'nice tits'. I never screamed harassment, although I did make sure to stand further away from him the next time.
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hypocrites

just imagine, some porn whore just finished up her orgy scene including double anal, and as she starts to wipe the goo from 5 different cocks off of her face Ron pats her ass and says 'good performance'. She is so shocked by this invading behavior and starts screaming 'HERASSMENT! METOO!!! METOOO!!1!' while she is cleaning up the cum of 5 strangers from her face.
except that is not what he is being accused of, that is just what your perception of what it is. You understand the difference right?

being an adult performer doesn't excuse the behavior.
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I guess AVN is developing the French system of guilty til proven innocent. lol.
Or they're protecting themselves from the possibility of angry or even violent confrontations that could lead to lawsuits and necessary added security. Yes, that would make more sense.

You going on tour sticking up for Cosby and OJ next?
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I saw a tape of ron jeremy doing a whole lot worse than grope women...instant prison shit...It is amazing I seem to be the only one in the know about it...the footage in question was shot some 20-25 years ago...
Instant illegal? Doesn't sound very good...only one thing comes to mind.
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Why lie?

Girls have been complaining about this going on at shows for years and posting their stories online.

It's very simple:

1) Extend your hands with a smile

2) Say "May I ?"

3) Upon confirmation, place hands upon breasts.

Still creepy yet satisfying right?
Not defending, but I have also seen girls coming to him and having their tits signed with magic markers.
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It's about time. I know for a fact he has done way worse than just groping random woman at shows.

The fact that women came to shows to get their tits signed, and that a lot of women didn't mind their breasts being touched, doesn't give him the right to think it's ok to grab any woman he wants.

Some of the horror stories that have come out recently were eerily similar to what I seen go down at an IA2000 show. (pre internext)
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Not defending, but I have also seen girls coming to him and having their tits signed with magic markers.
You just described the difference between consent and nonconsent.
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Not defending, but I have also seen girls coming to him and having their tits signed with magic markers.
Ron Jeremy is a legend and anyone in this industry for any time knows he's touchy feely and a lot of girls throw themselves at him (lucky bastard!) and he's earned it. There are hundreds of pics posted online by smiling girls with Ron's hands on their titts, there are also lots of stories posted by girls throughout the years not privy to Ron's ways who were felt up or whatever and took offense.

I'm not sure why AVN banned him instead of putting out a statement like " In light of the current social atmosphere Ron Jeremy has informed us that he will be asking before touching at this years AVN awards " could have been a cool compromise instead of a bitch slap. Maybe they had threats of performers boycotting or protests, I doubt it but I have no idea.
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I'm not sure why AVN banned him instead of putting out a statement like " In light of the current social atmosphere Ron Jeremy has informed us that he will be asking before touching at this years AVN awards " could have been a cool compromise instead of a bitch slap. Maybe they had threats of performers boycotting or protests, I doubt it but I have no idea.
You seriously think Ron would have agreed to that, and if he did that he'd have actually done it? I've heard a ton of "Ron" stories, and even saw a few with my own eyes 12 or 13 years ago. The man is a letch, who should have been called out more than a decade ago. Way way overdue.
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I saw a tape of ron jeremy doing a whole lot worse than grope women...instant prison shit...It is amazing I seem to be the only one in the know about it...the footage in question was shot some 20-25 years ago...
so what is it? Pedo shit? Rape? Those are the things that are instant prison shit. If you know it why not share what it is exactly?
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so what is it? Pedo shit? Rape? Those are the things that are instant prison shit. If you know it why not share what it is exactly?
You're a Polish guy living in the Netherlands what does it matter to you Polish Aristocrat?
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You don't even work in our industry fuck off. You will never goto an industry show and you hate Americans and American culture and you're a foreigner. Fuck off Polish Aristocrat!


sounds like it's time for your meds again!
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Ron Jeremy is a legend and anyone in this industry for any time knows he's touchy feely and a lot of girls throw themselves at him (lucky bastard!) and he's earned it. There are hundreds of pics posted online by smiling girls with Ron's hands on their titts, there are also lots of stories posted by girls throughout the years not privy to Ron's ways who were felt up or whatever and took offense.

I'm not sure why AVN banned him instead of putting out a statement like " In light of the current social atmosphere Ron Jeremy has informed us that he will be asking before touching at this years AVN awards " could have been a cool compromise instead of a bitch slap. Maybe they had threats of performers boycotting or protests, I doubt it but I have no idea.
This is not about being touchy feely at a show. If we were speaking JUST about that, just because he is a porn star, that still doesn't give anyone the right to grab (sexually assault) anyone without consent. However, this was WAAAAAY more then that.

First of all you have solid accusations by at least 2 woman that he flat out raped them. I have read about other accusations.

I probably wouldn't have even commented on this guy had I not witnessed for myself some other very seriously disturbing shit that went down at an event.

The fact that people call him a legend, and the status he holds in the industry has allowed him to get away with this shit for decades.
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He is a dirty old man, whether you like it or not. "legend" or not !!!

He needs to learn that his ways are not ok x
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If the rape allegations are true, then he should be shunned. If it is just groping at an adult event, come on, we are all grown ups in the adult business. I've been running the camera on my own set, and have male talent grab my fanny. It is easy enough to tell someone to knock it off and, go on about the day. It doesn't mean you have to like the person or be in close proximity with them again. But banning them from and adult industry event? That is a little much. Maybe making him wear a sign that reads, "I grope. Stand Next to Me." would have sufficed. In fact, it would have been funny.
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Or they're protecting themselves from the possibility of angry or even violent confrontations that could lead to lawsuits and necessary added security. Yes, that would make more sense.

You going on tour sticking up for Cosby and OJ next?
As usual....no.

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“@DaveChappelle 1st U defend Cosby. Now Louis CK?,” wrote Love-Over-Hate. “I get it when controversial is your angle. But this is abt victims, & their pain, trauma etc. Your lack of understanding in tht realm is the obvious problem women have to deal with men like the 1 your defending. Shame.”

So a woman is talking to Louis C.K. on the phone and he tells her he's masturbating.

"Bitch, you don’t know how to hang up the phone? How the hell are you going to survive in show business if this is an actual obstacle to your dreams? I know Louis is wrong, I’m just saying, I’m held to a higher standard of accountability than these women are.”,

If women at shows don't want RJ groping and grabbing them. Don't go up to him. Be polite, say hello, keep your distance, smile and wave. If a woman has the balls make a joke, like "Not too close, Ron. You know how you get."

Instead some of these women, like the dipshit referenced in the chapelle article cry snowflake, fall on the ground and cry foul while looking at a lawsuit option.

People, women too, should grow up and grow a pair. Instead the US and now the porn biz is filled with lame ass pussies.

Porn legends draw fans. Doesn't mean women have to be victimized if they take matters into their own hands rather than let Ron take them into his. Understand now? FFS.
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In my opinion, this is a bit of a hard one - pun intended.

Back in the early 2000s I spent a lot of time with Ron in and around porn conventions, and yes, he was gropey... But at the same time, it was at porn conventions, with porn people and he was Ron Jeremy...

If he were walking down the street doing it, or wandering around a restaurant while waiting for his order, then sure - Out of order 100% But he wasn't... He was at PORN conventions...

One thing I would say in his defence is that although he was gropey, if anyone said 'No' he respected that immediately and would apologise. However very few people ever seemed to mind or say anything.

OK, this was like 18 / 15 years ago, and yes times have changed, but I think its daft to make an example out of him for it. I'd like to know if anyone had from AVN had told him to stop doing it, or said anything to him previously? Or just not said a word but then banned him?
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The other side of things though is how much the biz has changed since the early 2000s Back then people who were 'in porn' were actually 'in porn'

They either performed on camera on set, or worked on the filming side on set or did something else that was literally in the same room and within spitting distance of people actually fucking and sucking. Those were the people, along with the fans at porn conventions.

These days with cam girls, solo performers with clipstores, and all the people who consider themselves 'in porn' but in truth are only ever as close to porn as an image on a computer screen, then yes. It's a different client base these days. I can fully understand a girl who only deals with facts and figures on a screen at a traffic brokers office going to a convention and being shocked if groped - Understandably so, but these sorts of people didn't use to attend.
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The other side of things though is how much the biz has changed since the early 2000s Back then people who were 'in porn' were actually 'in porn'

They either performed on camera on set, or worked on the filming side on set or did something else that was literally in the same room and within spitting distance of people actually fucking and sucking. Those were the people, along with the fans at porn conventions.

These days with cam girls, solo performers with clipstores, and all the people who consider themselves 'in porn' but in truth are only ever as close to porn as an image on a computer screen, then yes. It's a different client base these days. I can fully understand a girl who only deals with facts and figures on a screen at a traffic brokers office going to a convention and being shocked if groped - Understandably so, but these sorts of people didn't use to attend.
QFT. They need their own safe spaces. Tired of the whining.
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If the rape allegations are true, then he should be shunned. If it is just groping at an adult event, come on, we are all grown ups in the adult business. I've been running the camera on my own set, and have male talent grab my fanny. It is easy enough to tell someone to knock it off and, go on about the day. It doesn't mean you have to like the person or be in close proximity with them again. But banning them from and adult industry event? That is a little much. Maybe making him wear a sign that reads, "I grope. Stand Next to Me." would have sufficed. In fact, it would have been funny.
This is a wise take on it ...
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How old is Ron Jeremy?
He's 65 this year
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so what is it? Pedo shit? Rape? Those are the things that are instant prison shit. If you know it why not share what it is exactly?
it was not rape...so that leaves the other thing...it was in the time of VHS...shot maybe in the early 90-s...
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This is one of the few industries where we discard our legends like trash, and the media wonders why they turn into ornaments. Idiots are trying to make porn so mainstream. Laugh. Fucking idiots.
Theres a lot of truth in this, I dont know the back story but I do know I have never had a problem with Ron nor have ANY of the many girls I have brought to industry functions, he has always asked before touching them....But all of that aside Duke is on point here, pretty much nobody in the biz these days has any sense of history of the biz, its like every girl and every so called director thinks the biz started when they came in....Truth is Ron was doing positive things for this industry when the best part of Theo Sapoutzis was running down his mommys leg. Did anyone sit down with Ron and say this is what is acceptable and this is what isnt or did AVN just appoint themselves judge jury and executioner?

I am not gonna convict Ron on heresay

The really interesting thing is that this biz wasnt always the cesspool of scumbags that it is now, its like we somehow lived up to mainstreams expectations of us.

Guys like Ron Sullivan, Bruce Seven, Lasse Braun ( talk about a scumbag kid...he is WAY worse to females than Ron ever was) Gregory Dark, Cecil Howard, Gerry Damiano ... wonder what they would think...
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Theres a lot of truth in this, I dont know the back story but I do know I have never had a problem with Ron nor have ANY of the many girls I have brought to industry functions, he has always asked before touching them....But all of that aside Duke is on point here, pretty much nobody in the biz these days has any sense of history of the biz, its like every girl and every so called director thinks the biz started when they came in....Truth is Ron was doing positive things for this industry when the best part of Theo Sapoutzis was running down his mommys leg. Did anyone sit down with Ron and say this is what is acceptable and this is what isnt or did AVN just appoint themselves judge jury and executioner?

I am not gonna convict Ron on heresay

The really interesting thing is that this biz wasnt always the cesspool of scumbags that it is now, its like we somehow lived up to mainstreams expectations of us.

Guys like Ron Sullivan, Bruce Seven, Lasse Braun ( talk about a scumbag kid...he is WAY worse to females than Ron ever was) Gregory Dark, Cecil Howard, Gerry Damiano ... wonder what they would think...
Ron Jeremy told Rolling Stone magazine that "I get paid to show up to these shows, events, and photo shoots and touch the people" and "As for the charges of Groping, I say yes, I AM A GROPER."

Definition of groper: feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.

You'd be crazy to pay Ron Jeremy to appear at a show after that it's a huge liability.
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so because of their status they can do whatever they want?
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