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kane · 02-27-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

This is what happens when you dont pay attention. dont or cant read etc.

Every proposal I have seen has the guns kept in a secure locations) with finger print access so everything you mentioned that involved a purse, a stolen gun. pulling out a gun when a cra backfires, etc is just fear mongering...Ive said it before and I will say it again this is a public health issue NOT a gun control issue and until it is addressed as such nothing meaningful is going to come of it it really is that simple.

Guns kept in a secure location would completely defeat the whole purpose. Also, I haven't' seen anyone say anything about this. I have seen nothing but people saying that the teachers would be able to carry their guns.

If the gun is in a lockbox and the kid walks into a classroom and starts shooting, don't you think the teacher is the first target?

JFK · 02-27-2018, 06:18 PM

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beerptrol · 02-27-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

I am arming my cat , to protect her from the kids, that are protecting themselves from the teachers, that are protecting themselves from mass shooter .... or the government ...

Anyone can give me direction to the shop GUNS UNLIMITED ?

I armed the dog to keep the armed cat off the bed. He went through sniper school and is well trained

The only way he will break cover is if he hears someone opening a cheese wrapper or bag of chips

SuckOnThis · 02-27-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

That's what I have for reference. What about you? Nothing?
That's what I thought.

Yeah yeah, heard it 100 times from you already. Your dad bartered chickens to the doctor and you carried guns to school in case you saw a squirrel so yall could eat that night.

Vendzilla · 02-27-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, school shooters probably wouldn't cut off a teacher's finger just to get some guns.

You sound like you went to a school that had metal detectors to get in

Vendzilla · 02-27-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Guns kept in a secure location would completely defeat the whole purpose. Also, I haven't' seen anyone say anything about this. I have seen nothing but people saying that the teachers would be able to carry their guns.

If the gun is in a lockbox and the kid walks into a classroom and starts shooting, don't you think the teacher is the first target?

The new guns safes allow you to get into them fast and this isn't about going into a particular classroom, it's about letting the shooting spread.

Vendzilla · 02-27-2018, 07:21 PM

My dad was attacked in a parking lot by some piece of shit less than half his age, he was 74. He punched my dad threw the window of his truck several times and stopped when my dad pointed a S&W 40 at him. Cops got him later and charged him with elder abuse.

These shooters are cowards and only go to the schools because they are gun free zones, sorry you idiots don't get that

blackmonsters · 02-27-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You sound like you went to a school that had metal detectors to get in

Hmmm, now there's an idea.

Metal detectors installed in the class room door jambs.

The only time you can come up with an good idea is when your're making an insult.

The Porn Nerd · 02-27-2018, 07:22 PM

When it comes to school shootings what is the average age of the shooter? 18? 19? 20?

These are damaged, dangerous "kids" - old enough to join the military and die for their country. They want maximum damage because they are maximally damaged. Shooting up a donut shop is not what they want. They want to harm kids and schools.

Now when it comes to churches, movie theaters, etc....? My point is relatively sane people are trying to understand and stop insane people. Guns make it easier so we should limit them but it will not solve crazy people 100%.

Robbie · 02-27-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Guns kept in a secure location would completely defeat the whole purpose. Also, I haven't' seen anyone say anything about this. I have seen nothing but people saying that the teachers would be able to carry their guns.

If the gun is in a lockbox and the kid walks into a classroom and starts shooting, don't you think the teacher is the first target?

Exactly...the proposal I heard from the President was Conceal CARRY. Meaning you have a holstered weapon under your coat out of view...but loaded and ready.

And it's already being done in Texas:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/healt...rnd/index.html

bronco67 · 02-27-2018, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The new guns safes allow you to get into them fast and this isn't about going into a particular classroom, it's about letting the shooting spread.

Man...you guys are fantasizing about this teacher/commando thing happening. Jump on your Harley and drive it into a river.

Vendzilla · 02-27-2018, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Man...you guys are fantasizing about this teacher/commando thing happening. Jump on your Harley and drive it into a river.

Wake up, it's already happening, it's allowed in 6 states and the number will increase

https://www.inverse.com/article/4160...-to-carry-guns

Just keep fantasizing that that your bronco floats

The Porn Nerd · 02-27-2018, 11:27 PM

And what happens when a teacher goes insane and blows away their own classroom?

Just asking.

kane · 02-28-2018, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And what happens when a teacher goes insane and blows away their own classroom?

Just asking.

We arm the students. Everyone on campus gets a gun.

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No, just needs to end. The govt. has no right telling you and I what we can and can't do in our personal lives.
Just like when they tried it with alcohol...it caused a LOT of violence and crime.

The govt. IS the problem in the "War On Drugs". Thanks Richard Nixon.

It's the Government's job to tell you what in your personal lives. To protect others.

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You don't need but a handful of teachers who ALREADY own weapons to be able to conceal carry to provide a deterrence.
And we can also make it more difficult to enter school grounds in the first place.

We can definitely harden up the schools security in a lot of ways without making it feel like a prison. And that CAN be done "right now".

How does someone conceal an AR15?

Or will you send teachers up against people armed with AR15s armed only with a handgun?

Upgrading school security is an immediate plaster over a gaping wound. Gun owners can pay through a tax on guns.

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

This is what happens when you dont pay attention. dont or cant read etc.

Every proposal I have seen has the guns kept in a secure locations) with finger print access so everything you mentioned that involved a purse, a stolen gun. pulling out a gun when a cra backfires, etc is just fear mongering...Ive said it before and I will say it again this is a public health issue NOT a gun control issue and until it is addressed as such nothing meaningful is going to come of it it really is that simple.

Agreed about a Health Issue. Everyone who owns a gun should submit themselves regularly to a trained psychiatrist. For a complete consultation of their mental state and pay the costs.

Do you have a better solution to stop crazy people owning guns?

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The new guns safes allow you to get into them fast and this isn't about going into a particular classroom, it's about letting the shooting spread.

You're asking teachers to go up against people armed with semi-automatic weapons. With a handgun. By the time a teacher gets there, avoids getting shot, how many kids have died?

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

My dad was attacked in a parking lot by some piece of shit less than half his age, he was 74. He punched my dad threw the window of his truck several times and stopped when my dad pointed a S&W 40 at him. Cops got him later and charged him with elder abuse.

These shooters are cowards and only go to the schools because they are gun free zones, sorry you idiots don't get that

So what level of guns do you suggest for schools?

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 01:55 AM

Every solution to this problem offered has major flaws.

Guns in schools have to be operated by a highly trained shooter will to kill a human being to save lives. He has to be armed with the equivalent weaponry. So forget about teachers with handguns. At best it will save a few children after the good guy kills the bad one.

Lockdown schools. Is very expensive. Who will pay the costs?

Checkups to maintain a gun owners Mental competence to own a gun. Good luck with that.

Removing guns will take decades to apply.

Because the last civilised society that should own guns. Gives 18 years old the right to buy highly powered guns that are designed to kill.

Robbie · 02-28-2018, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

How does someone conceal an AR15?

Or will you send teachers up against people armed with AR15s armed only with a handgun?

Upgrading school security is an immediate plaster over a gaping wound. Gun owners can pay through a tax on guns.

You are a dumbass sometimes Paul.
The point is that it's a DETERRENT.
And yeah...I'm guessing that the teacher/coach who threw his body in front of the bullets from the assault rifle in this latest shooting would have LOVED to have had a 9mm pistol in his hand instead of...nothing.

Nobody is "sending teachers" up "against" anybody. The whole point is to make the school less of a target.

But you don't really give a damn. You're only commenting inanely to be able to argue. You have nothing to contribute of any value to the conversation.

That's why you are a troll on GFY and won "Troll Of The Year". Pathetic bro. Get your shit together.

Robbie · 02-28-2018, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And what happens when a teacher goes insane and blows away their own classroom?

Just asking.

"What if" Fucking theoretical horseshit while real people are getting killed NOW.

I am so glad I don't think like that.

pimpmaster9000 · 02-28-2018, 03:11 AM

blackmonsters · 02-28-2018, 05:45 AM

Everyone should consider two scenarios :

When the shooting starts the teacher should ...

1. Immediately take out the gun and take up a firing position and tell the kids to get behind their desk.

2. Lead by example while directing kids to run to escape.

And if number 2 makes sense, could all class rooms have auto locking exit doors that only
open from the inside?

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

"What if" Fucking theoretical horseshit while real people are getting killed NOW.

I am so glad I don't think like that.

So protect them long term.

Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You are a dumbass sometimes Paul.
The point is that it's a DETERRENT.
And yeah...I'm guessing that the teacher/coach who threw his body in front of the bullets from the assault rifle in this latest shooting would have LOVED to have had a 9mm pistol in his hand instead of...nothing.

Nobody is "sending teachers" up "against" anybody. The whole point is to make the school less of a target.

But you don't really give a damn. You're only commenting inanely to be able to argue. You have nothing to contribute of any value to the conversation.

That's why you are a troll on GFY and won "Troll Of The Year". Pathetic bro. Get your shit together.

I will tell you how much of a deterrent it is. It stops the kids that want to do this to their school or ex-school or random schools think twice. They may choose a random school that's "Gun Free". Or they may choose to do it in a school with an armed police officer or teachers. Shoot the police officer or teachers first and then the kids.

I understand where you are coming from. You live in a country obsessed by guns, own guns, think more guns are the answer and watched far too many Die Hard, Lethal Weapons, Dirty Harry, etc movies and believe they could be real.

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https://www.myajc.com/blog/get-schoo...Na4wJVpeu58cM/

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Paul Markham · 02-28-2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Everyone should consider two scenarios :

When the shooting starts the teacher should ...

1. Immediately take out the gun and take up a firing position and tell the kids to get behind their desk.

2. Lead by example while directing kids to run to escape.

And if number 2 makes sense, could all class rooms have auto locking exit doors that only
open from the inside?

That would be an excellent idea. So the shooter goes into a school room that doesn't have an armed teacher and kills other children.

blackmonsters · 02-28-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

That would be an excellent idea. So the shooter goes into a school room that doesn't have an armed teacher and kills other children.

I should have put "or" between one and two for you.

Vendzilla · 02-28-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

And what happens when a teacher goes insane and blows away their own classroom?

Just asking.

I love how nothing will make you happy!

Rochard · 02-28-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

There is a huge difference between then and now.

Then kids hunted. The rifles they had were used for hunting and only hunting.

Now the kids want an AR-15 because it's "cool". The rifles they want are used for killing people.

brassmonkey · 02-28-2018, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

I armed the dog to keep the armed cat off the bed. He went through sniper school and is well trained

The only way he will break cover is if he hears someone opening a cheese wrapper or bag of chips

that dogg was killed...

if only he had fingers to pull the damn trigger!

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