2MuchMark

It's not Stormy Daniels per se - its that Chump lied about her. To you. To his wife and to his family.

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Chumpanzees love to be lied to

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Robbie

Hey, if you were hiring a high dollar escort on a regular basis...that's something that is kept close to the vest.
Stormy Daniels SHOULD have been 100% discreet.

Would you tell YOUR wife and family if you were fucking around? I know I wouldn't! lol

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Acepimp

That's called conssent. Did Bill Clinton get consent from the women he raped? (Hint- he didn't)

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beerptrol

lol spin and deflect ....... Boris

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Tasty1

what a whore

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2MuchMark

Here's the thing: I actually don't care at all about Trump's sex life. Even if the Russian pee-girl thing turns out to be true, I'm like... meh. To each their own. I think that a politician's personal sex life should never have anything to do with their ability to do their job. Unless of course, some anti gay-rights douchebag is secretly gay himself. Otherwise, bugger who you want and have fun!


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A man who cheats on his wife cannot be trusted.

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beerptrol

The chumpanzees out in full force deflecting in order to protect their masters

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ruff

You know, Robbie, emotions run high concerning this president. It's not whether he gets anything done or whatever, it's the quality and integrity of the man. tRump has none and the fact that people elected him and support him is an insult to our country. It's fine to pontificate about manners and civility, but even his supporters acknowledge that he is a scumbag. So who's next? What other fuckleberry can we find for a president? The bar is so low now that any asshat now qualifies to be elected. Doesn't any of that speak to you? You'll accept any bozo like tRump? Some of us are not ready to accept this kind of faux leadership.

Busty2

Well said and you didn't have to resort to calling people names like some do on this forum

Robbie

I felt like this: The plastic politicians who ACT like their shit doesn't stink (pretty much ALL politicians including past Presidents) have failed our country.

My vote went to Trump because he straight up said that he is what he is. And he has a plan for our economy and foreign policy that I agree with 100%

I really don't care about what Democrats and "never-Trump" Republicans think about him as a person.

Sure, they prance around Washington pretending to be pure as driven snow...until they get caught fucking page boys (remember that in the 1990's), or having gay sex in public bathrooms.

Meanwhile, they never got anything done for the American people.

I could argue with you that JFK was the biggest "scumbag" President of all times...but the reality is...we really don't know. These politicians all lead double lives. Just like many "normal" citizens do. For all we know Reagan might have been having sex and drug orgys late night in the White House. lol

I think that the Evangelical leaders actually got it right (though I think they are all superstitious nut cases) when they said: "We aren't voting for a 'Pastor In Chief', we are voting for a President to LEAD".

And that's the bottom line for me.
I AGREE 100% with what he is doing with the economy. I understand his negotiating tactics as well.

And I HATED what the fake politicians have done to the country over decades and decades.

Right now we have a roaring economy. A miracle in North Korea. Jobs coming back to the U.S. (even though the "experts" claimed during the campaign that it was "impossible")

And yet...here you are complaining that you don't like Trump as a person.

Me? I could give a shit about whether or not he likes to fuck a lot of bitches. So do I.
I don't give a fuck if he likes to make money by any means neccessary. So do I.

I don't need another guy in the WhiteHouse pretending to be a "polite" and "gentile" little mouse. Meanwhile they drove the country into the ground.

I feel that Trump's election SAVED our country.

Now you don't have to agree with me (and you don't).

But I WILL agree with you: Trump is an asshole.
And that's EXACTLY what we needed.

Somebody who doesn't give a fuck what the Establishment wants and who will stand up for the USA in negotiations.

Just look at the contrast:
Obama "negotiates" with Iran. Sends them a pallet full of cash via a military plane. And then Iran takes that cash and funds terrorism in Syria.
What a fucking idiot.

Trump gives North Korea nothing. Berates Kim Jung Un in public. Shows strength in every way.
And they come to the table with their hat in their hands.

And the economy?
Remember the "Summer of Recovery" in 2009 that NEVER happened?

Then Trump is elected and the economy immediately took off.

I would suggest to you that maybe you should stop being "outraged" and "offended" by the way Trump speaks and acts. I'm sure you aren't as weak in real life as you sound when you complain about Trump being a "scumbag". So why act that way in your political views and postings on GFY?

Take an honest look at what he is doing and don't listen to CNN's "experts" or MSNBC's pundits. They were WRONG on EVERYTHING they have said about Trump since day one.

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Rochard

You voted for someone who is completely unqualified and has the temper of a four year old.

Thank good the guy before him got our unemployment down to 4%.

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Acepimp

Yeah, with minimum wage temp jobs. People were working 3 jobs to get by. Yay jobs!

Facts Are Facts=> Obama Owns Worst Economic Numbers in 80 Years, Since 1932

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Bladewire

But Robbie has the temper & comprehension of a 4 year old as well

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ruff

It takes years to get the US economy moving in the right direction. tRump takes credit for Obama's hard work. tRump cannot get out of his own way. He has not managed to do anything but disrupt and divide this country. So far he's is responsible for nothing constructive in this country. He has spent the last year un-doing regulations put into place to protect the citizens of this country. A tax cut only for the rich and so far producing nothing tangible for the citizens, but the corporations love it. Health is projected to start going up and out of reach for most people. Basically every week of this administration is spent defending some fuck up or another. Nothing on gun control, nothing on immigration, nothing on DACA, nothing on infrastructure, nothing on anything.

That fucked up little dictator in North Korea is going to eat tRump's lunch. He's about ten times smarter than tRump and is going to set the orange moron up for some old fashioned humiliation. That's if there is even a meeting, doubtful because tRump will sabotage it.

Get the facts on the Iran money, it was no give-away.

So no, Robbie, this poor excuse for a president doesn't get to take credit for what he hasn't done. What did you think he did, take the office and wave a magic wand and everything is suddenly better and nicer? I'm afraid not.

Meanwhile, try and remember the Republicans during the Obama years, especially regarding the deficit. They have run up a debt now way beyond anything rational and for what? Certainly not infrastructure, but to build up the world's largest military even more. As if we need it. Who's going to pay for all that debt? The corporations are off the hook, they just got a free ride. It's going to be us, Robbie, and our children. We'll be paying this off the rest of our lives. And spare me the voodoo economics, business isn't going to provide anything to increase our manufacturing capacity. We are a service economy now and most of the jobs produced monthly are at the minimum wage level. So yay for that. If that's what you call "winning" then you know nothing.

It doesn't take a genius to see what is happening, just someone with an open mind not clouded by a huckster. This week's over, let's see what kind of bullshit we have to deal with regarding tRump next week. Because there is always something and it sure as hell won't be anything that benefits the country.

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Rochard

I wouldn't say that about Robbie. I've met him a few times and he is very nice. I have him on Facebook too - he is just a normal person. Some people just believe in their politics like a religion. He just refuses to see the truth.

I don't subscribe to political sites, nothing on Facebook, etc etc etc. I stay completely away from politics on Facebook. I get my news from a news feed - I don't go to CNN or any particular news site. I went an entire month avoiding CNN just to make sure I wasn't being improperly influenced and nothing in my world changed.

But I wouldn't say Robbie has the temper & comprehension of a four year old. He is a smart man.

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thommy

Did not happen?



aha and in 2000 the economists already knew that trump will be elected in 2016 and this is why they could precisely forcast it already than, right ?




I do not blame you for not knowing about economics, but the fact that the US economy was considered "overheated" by the end of 2015 should also make it clear to you that you can easily pour oil into a blazing fire.

this is what trump did and this is what all americans will pay for.

he gave you a tax cutt for a few years and in the same time he starts a trading war what will eat all this "saved money" again.

please never use the word trump in connection with economy. This man has come to his wealth by finding ways not to pay his bills. It is a dumbass and has less knowledge about economics than a domestic cat.
all people he has brought into his illustrious circle (BECAUSE THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT ECONOMY AS HE DOES) have thrown the towel because they CAN SEE where it leads to.

when he will be history he will be MUCH richer than before and all of you much poorer.

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Rochard

I couldn't agree more.

Trump hasn't done anything for the economy. Not one damn thing. The "tax cut" I got is a few dollars every two weeks. Depending on how the rest of taxes change with deductions, the average person will stand to lose money. In the meantime big companies will rake in huge bucks - the rich get richer.

Obama did wonders with our economy. He took over when unemployment was over 10%, and and cut unemployment by half. When he left office unemployment was 4.8% and dropping fast like a huge bag of bricks. Trump just rode what was handed to him.

In the mean time Trump removed all of the regulations preventing this from happening again.

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NatalieK

I bet his mrs does


You have to get your head out of your ass one day

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Acepimp

None of it's been confirmed. And maybe he and the Mrs had an open relationship at the time. None of this matters, Trump won because he was the only viable candidate and is doing a great job (and donating his salary).

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Bladewire

The only thing that Trump did to help the economy short-term was removing all the regulations from Dodd-Frank that protected us from going into another economic crash. Typical Republican strategy distract the masses with a bunch of drama while you rob the treasury and economically enslave the masses for another generation.

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MsCheyenne

It seems pretty classless for Daniels to kiss and, ten years later when Trump is running for office, decide to tell unless she gets 130k. She did a CNN interview in which she said is getting offered 6 times the money dancing as she used to and, her phone is ringing off the hook with job opportunities. If Trump had assaulted her, hit her, ect, I'd feel differently about it...but as it looks right now, she makes women in our industry look like opportunists. In all fairness, not all of the facts have come out but, so far, I am disappointed that someone in the porn business would cash in on nothing more than an National Enquirer story. We've all got a bad, stereo typed image as it is.

Then, there is Jessica Drake who, along with Daniels was invited to Trump's hotel for dinner and, drinks. They went and, according to Drake, he greeted her with a kiss. How is that an unusual thing when you are joining a man for drinks in his hotel room? Then, after hiring Glorida Allred, Drake said that he offered her 10k to spend the night and, use of his private jet to get back to LA the next day because she has a porn shoot. She was signed with Wicked at the time. She declined and, that was that. How is any of this harassment? That was probably at least twice as much money as she makes shooting for Wicked, without the private jet. To top if off, this was 10 years ago.

I just don't understand why any of this is news. Obviously, Trump and, his must have had some time of agreement. Trump was obviously pretty open as a playboy. When the accounts like this come out, it is Trump wining, dining, offering generous gifts, ect. There hasn't been any credible allegations of abuse.

So, the guy is a horn dog? Big deal. What makes me sad is the behavior of the ladies in our business looking like opportunists.

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thommy

it´s not the problem that he is fucking around.
If he would be this straight guy who says all he think he would stand for it and good.

clinton was also not really blamed for his affairs - he was blamed for the lie.
and if he get blamed for it why should that be different on trump?

regarding the biz-bitches: it is an old story and nothing new.
it just shows how stupid and short seeing donald dumb is not to know it.

and this did not happen when he was a 18-year old idiot it happens when he was already an over 60 year old idiot. do you really think that a character can change in this late days of life?

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Robbie

I completely disagree.

Pres. Obama came into a destroyed economy due to the housing market collapsing. All the banks were holding billions of dollars in underwater mortgages. Complete liability.

Bush bailed them out with $1 trillion of taxpayer money.
Pres. Obama did it again a few months later.

Then the economy just sat there for 8 long years.

The EXPERTS were on CNN, The New York Times, MSNBC, and the Washington Post during the campaign saying that IF Trump were somehow elected it would INSTANTLY crash the economy and put us in a deep recession. Do you not remember that?

Let me remind you...this was the mainstream media just days before the election:
A Trump win would sink stocks. What about Clinton? - Oct. 24, 2016

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/b...rump-wins.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/02/this...rump-wins.html

I could keep on posting them because it was a big media anti-Trump blitz that week when they started getting scared that he was going to win.

Now according to you...the economy "takes years" to change.

But according to the "Experts" it was going to crash immediately "IF" Trump won.

Instead it took off immediately.

And once Trump took office he removed all traces of Pres. Obama's economic policys.
Obama didn't pass any legislation with Congress for 6 long years. He did EVERYTHING by Executive Order. Remember when he said "I don't need Congress, I have a phone and a pen".

Well, that means it wasn't the "law of the land" (only Congress can do that). So Pres. Trump removed HUNDREDS of biz killing regulations that Pres. Obama put in place. Took us out of the Paris accords. Got tax reform and made companies in the U.S. competitive with foreign country's.

And you hate Pres. Trump so badly that you refuse to see how that revved up the economy and instead now try to claim that Obama's policys are responsible...but wait, ALL of his economic policys have been rescinded by Trump.

So that means that NONE of Obama's brilliant ideas are still in play. They are ALL gone.
This is Trump's economy 100%.

I don't really know what the heck caused you and about half the country to hate Trump. But it's now been well over a year since he won.

It just seems that the media is loving "fighting" with him all the time. It gives them ratings.
And trust me...no matter how sincere Anderson Cooper or Rachel Maddow appear...they don't give a damn about you or me. They only care about ratings.

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Bladewire

Pay attention.

She kiss & told in an article in 2011.

Trump paid her in 2016 to make sure she didn't keep talking.

In my country there's a thing called freedom of speech.

Am I country rich people try to use illegal contracts to steal the freedom of speech from law abiding American citizens Stormy Daniels is fighting that legally as is her Birthright as an American citizen.

It's News because Stormy Daniels gave her interview in 2011 after she had her baby. She had her baby less than a year after she stopped seeing Trump. Her baby looks just like the Trump babies.

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MsCheyenne

Yes, I am aware. In fact, the story was in In Touch magazine some years back. I find the timing of the 130k suspicious. There must have been something that prompted this hush or, even blackmail deal just before the election. I find her cashing in on a consensual relationship incredibly petty. When Gennifer Flowers went public with her consensual relationship with Clinton, I found it equally petty. Can you imagine having an affair with someone and, then, long after it is over, doing something for financial gain, at the potential harm of your former lover? It is classless.

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MsCheyenne

It isn't the same as Clinton's exploits. In the situation with Gennifer Flowers, it was similar. I found it pretty classless that Flowers went public in something that could have hurt her former lover's career to gain public attention. I find Stormy cashing in on an affair with Trump classless too. Clinton's behavior with Jones was workplace sexual harassment and, then, his camp went on a public smear campaign against her. The situation with Jones was also not consensual. I won't even get into the Lewinsky deal with Clinton. All of these situations are not the same. Flowers and, Daniels comes the closest in similarities. I can't begin to imagine, regardless of sour grapes or, perhaps even greed, stabbing a former lover in the back like that.

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kane

Do you think she slept with Trump originally because she was into him? She's a pornstar with a massive rack. She could have sex with just about any dude she wanted. Maybe she was drawn to his power or charm or something (she even says she enjoyed talking to him), but the dude was an overweight, balding 60something year old. Typically 28-year-old hotties don't fuck guys nearing retirement age out of the kindness of their heart. She knew what she was doing and it wasn't looking for a good lay.

You can't blame a scorpion when it stings you, that's what they do.

thommy

i think you are talking about "moral"
but to use this word in a sentence with the word "trump" inside does not make much sense.
if he is the smart boy he wants to be he should know the consequences of such games.
otherwise he just get hit with his own weapons at the same moral level he is at home.

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thommy

correct - and if the "smart guy" does not realize that he is a fucking moron and should not even get the job of a toilette cleaner in the white house.

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Acepimp

So..... Did she give back the $130K??

You don't get to have freedom of speech once you sign a NDA deal and take the money.

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^^^ Truth

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MsCheyenne

Come on. This was a tape in which Trump was marveling over how women through themselves at wealthy celebrities. He went on to detail how he wanted to sleep with a woman so badly that he took her to dinner and, furniture shopping. She still turned him down and, he accepted it. There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump but to use this as one is a desperate stretch.

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MsCheyenne

Well, that would include Kennedy, Clinton and, a ton of others....some of them Republicans, I am sure. Aside from that...Melania and, Trump must have an agreement that he is is going to horn around. Who is to judge what works in someone else's marriage?

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You! You posted nothing but judgment in this thread!

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MsCheyenne

That isn't a nice thing to say about women in the adult industry. Most of us are actually pretty nice people who would never compromise the privacy of our clients. Who knows what the Trump/Daniels situation was. But, to say that because someone was a porn star she is a scorpion just isn't right. Gennifer Flowers was not in the adult business and, she turned around and, tried to burn Bill Clinton in the same way. Most of the folks I've met in the adult industry are pretty nice folks. Let's not judge each other for the sake our employment.

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MsCheyenne

This is just reality, not judgement. Who is it for us to judge what others do in their marriage?

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^^^ Judgemental

Acepimp

BladeLiar doesn't like facts that counter the fake news narrative that he chooses to believe. Sad!

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kane

I'm saying Stormy is a scorpion, not all women in the industry. I have met (and know) a lot of women in this industry and 95% of them are good people who are nice and just trying to build a successful business.

Gennifer Flowers is a scorpion as well.

MsCheyenne

Agreed on both points.

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go Stormy go

tony286

its not the sex that is going to him in trouble. Its where did the money come from to pay her off. Are we really to believe his lawyer took a second on his home to pay her off or just paid her off with no hope of getting the money back? Look at a John Edwards and see what happened to him. Also don't you think it funny Trump has something to say about everything but not a fucking word on Stormy. Things that make you say hmmmm.

MsCheyenne

Obviously, there was a pay off. Now if it was because he had beat her up or, assaulted her in some way, that would be horrible and, everyone should know it. As it is, it really looks as if she was eyeing retirement and, along with Jessica Drake, were wondering if they could cash in on what was nothing more than a consensual situation. Trump hasn't gone the way of trashing the women he has been involved with like Clinton did...at least so far. As much as what Daniels is doing appears to be wrong and, gives a black eye to the women in the adult industry...if Trump's camp smeared her, it give them two black eyes. The man has a right to speak up for himself. Anything can happen at this point. But, even far left liberals should respect that Trump, so far, hasn't taken the low road the Clintons have when it comes to publicly trashing women.

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Ahh who's suprised... Robbie blames everyone but Trump...

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Trump trashes women daily... Trump trashes literally everyone.. but Stormy and Putin..

That should tell you there is more to this story than what we know so far.. Stormy obviously has serious dirt on Trump that she wants to get out.

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The Porn Nerd

If this little "affair" went as things usually go, Trump was bragging about this and that to his new slut toy Stormy Daniels. He would over-compensate (as is his norm) and exaggerate (as is his norm) and tell her ALL kinds of "I am a great Businessman" bullshit.

But guess what?

I will bet you dollars to donuts Trump told Daniels some shady shit and now she's going to spill the beans. JUST fucking a pornstar is not enough to cause any real world trouble. But paying her off? Daniels writing a book? Why? We do not need a blow-by-blow (so to speak) about the sex. I bet there's some scandalous shit (true or not) Daniels will bring out in the book and THIS is what Trump is afraid of. He knows what BS he told her and he's terrified it will come back to bite him in the ass.

Fun times!

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