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Old 04-13-2018, 01:54 PM   #51
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Wow okay, so that PSID was quite misleading there, it normally means that you are the operator of the website, but I understand now.

blackmonsters' AWE account has been reinstated, we discuss the rest in private.

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How about it, Butler? Do what Spunky says and end this?
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How about it, Butler? Do what Spunky says and end this?
You are just hitting a new low.
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Not trying to - I would just like my name back.
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Mark probably has a secret buyer for the domain who offered him $5K for it.
After all this drama and publicity it's worth more now.

Nice move Mark!
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:32 AM   #60
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I received the following email from AWEmpire.com because they think I own your web site.

"We had to terminate your account permanently"; which of course is my account that
was terminated instead of your account because you are using my affiliate code in my cam script and they claim your are "cookie stuffing".
It is good that you got your account back...BUT i can't help asking if that "cookie stuffing" is something he did or you should fix in your script.From what i understand,he took your script,put it on a domain without changing your aff id and got you banned.If i would do the same with your script except put my aff code,will i get my AWE account terminated for cookie stuffing?Did he added some code to your script or got you banned with "out of the box" script?
Please take no offence,i don't take sides here,but it is better to clear things up.
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Old 04-15-2018, 04:26 AM   #61
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Wow okay, so that PSID was quite misleading there, it normally means that you are the operator of the website, but I understand now.

blackmonsters' AWE account has been reinstated, we discuss the rest in private.

Cheers!
Always been a reasonable company to deal with. Good outcome.
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Old 04-15-2018, 06:11 AM   #62
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It is good that you got your account back...BUT i can't help asking if that "cookie stuffing" is something he did or you should fix in your script.From what i understand,he took your script,put it on a domain without changing your aff id and got you banned.If i would do the same with your script except put my aff code,will i get my AWE account terminated for cookie stuffing?Did he added some code to your script or got you banned with "out of the box" script?
Please take no offence,i don't take sides here,but it is better to clear things up.
Nothing got banned except what was on HIS domain.
That's pretty simple and everyone else here has figured that out especially the sponsor who just cleared my account.

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It is good that you got your account back...BUT i can't help asking if that "cookie stuffing" is something he did or you should fix in your script.From what i understand,he took your script,put it on a domain without changing your aff id and got you banned.If i would do the same with your script except put my aff code,will i get my AWE account terminated for cookie stuffing?Did he added some code to your script or got you banned with "out of the box" script?
Please take no offence,i don't take sides here,but it is better to clear things up.
153 post since 2009?

Could you be Chris Butler?

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153 post since 2009?

Could you be Chris Butler?


K33n is not Butler.

And the question he asked was quite fair I thought.

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And the question he asked was quite fair I thought.

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Plenty of domains are running the script; but only one had a problem.

End of story.
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Mark probably has a secret buyer for the domain who offered him $5K for it.
After all this drama and publicity it's worth more now.

Nice move Mark!

Really? How much would you pay for it?
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Plenty of domains are running the script; but only one had a problem.

End of story.
I am not trying to imply that you have done anything shady in any way, you know me better than that. But mistakes in code do happen so asking the question is fair.

I have also been asked by someone in private to take a look and see if there is an issue with the script. I have not decided how to reply yet except that I probably will decline as I do not mess with other people's code and I abhor Wordpress ;p

But as I said, imho, the question was fair so no need for the hostility to k33n. He did not ask it in a nasty way (again, my opinion). He made no accusations in his question.


Edited In: For the record - Assuming that your demos are using your current code set, I see no evidence of cookie stuffing going on.

My methodology was to go into my settings, clear all cookies for all sponsors that you list. Then I went into each demo and clicked around without ever clicking through to an iframe or sponsor. Then I went back into settings and checked and I did not find any sponsor cookies set.

I also did not find any cookies set for the demo domain of illsex in case that is a white label on some.

As I expected, unless I missed something the script is not doing anything unscrupulous.

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I am not trying to imply that you have done anything shady in any way, you know me better than that. But mistakes in code do happen so asking the question is fair.

I have also been asked by someone in private to take a look and see if there is an issue with the script. I have not decided how to reply yet except that I probably will decline as I do not mess with other people's code and I abhor Wordpress ;p

But as I said, imho, the question was fair so no need for the hostility to k33n. He did not ask it in a nasty way (again, my opinion). He made no accusations in his question.


Edited In: For the record - Assuming that your demos are using your current code set, I see no evidence of cookie stuffing going on.

My methodology was to go into my settings, clear all cookies for all sponsors that you list. Then I went into each demo and clicked around without ever clicking through to an iframe or sponsor. Then I went back into settings and checked and I did not find any sponsor cookies set.

I also did not find any cookies set for the demo domain of illsex in case that is a white label on some.

As I expected, unless I missed something the script is not doing anything unscrupulous.

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The sponsor made a decision based on their own investigation based on their own suspicions.
Anyone who disputes their investigation should take it up with the sponsor.
They have all the facts. I was not provided any stats, data, screen shots, other complaints, theories, or free pussy; but I take their word for it.

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Me? Well since I registered LiveCamSNetwork.net (and still waiting for the info to transfer the domain to you, as promised) I would pay $11.98 for it. LOL
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And the question he asked was quite fair I thought.

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How do you know K33n is not Butler?

What is K33n's name?
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What is K33n's name?

You don't want to take my word for it? That's up to you.

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So ChrisButer / theDynasty, can I please have my domain back now?

I love how you keep saying this.. it's not your domain dumbass..
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I am not Butler and i did not scam anyone or ever will.FYI my name is Nicholas N. and i live in Bucharest,Romania.PM me for more details about my identity.Now back to topic.

@Blackmonsters

I did not accuse you of anything.You presented the facts like this:

"Someone used my cam script without changing my ref id with his own and got me banned for cookie stuffing"

How does this sound to you?

IMO i gave you the opportunity to firmly state that your script does not violates TOS of any sponsor and probably the owner of that domain added his own code that led to banned account.OR double check your script for errors,forgotten pieces of code,and if the case,release an update asap to avoid others getting banned. That's all

There is no shame in making mistakes,but when discovered,should be fixed right away to minimize the damage.That's why UPDATES exist.I am not saying this is the case here,i am saying in general.

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Thank you for standing up for me
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I am not Butler and i did not scam anyone or ever will.FYI my name is Nicholas N. and i live in Bucharest,Romania.PM me for more details about my identity.Now back to topic.

@Blackmonsters

I did not accuse you of anything.You presented the facts like this:

"Someone used my cam script without changing my ref id with his own and got me banned for cookie stuffing"

How does this sound to you?

IMO i gave you the opportunity to firmly state that your script does not violates TOS of any sponsor and probably the owner of that domain added his own code that led to banned account.OR double check your script for errors,forgotten pieces of code,and if the case,release an update asap to avoid others getting banned. That's all

There is no shame in making mistakes,but when discovered,should be fixed right away to minimize the damage.That's why UPDATES exist.I am not saying this is the case here,i am saying in general.

@sarettah

Thank you for standing up for me
I don't think you are Chris Butler either. In fact, we may have talked about business in Prague or on ICQ.

Not everyone with a low post count from years ago is a fake nic (tho that's often the case it seems).

Personally I think if you have ANY affiliation with the Adult Industry you should have a verifiable link in your sig. No sig = troll, lurker, fan or simply a non-Adult Industry individual (who would still have the right to post here).

This would make it easier to tell who's IN and who's OUT of Porn. LOL
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Personally I think if you have ANY affiliation with the Adult Industry you should have a verifiable link in your sig. No sig = troll, lurker, fan or simply a non-Adult Industry individual (who would still have the right to post here).
I know that there are people who do NOT list any of their properties in their sigs because of the assholes who will pull off DDOS attacks and the like simply because you dare to express your opinion.

I know that because I openly show some of what I do that I tend to avoid most arguments any more.

Sucks that it is that way but that is the way it is.

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I know that there are people who do NOT list any of their properties in their sigs because of the assholes who will pull off DDOS attacks and the like simply because you dare to express your opinion.

I know that because I openly show some of what I do that I tend to avoid most arguments any more.

Sucks that it is that way but that is the way it is.

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Actually that is a very excellent point. You would think my cynicism would have caught that. It's a sad state of affairs tho.
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I know that there are people who do NOT list any of their properties in their sigs because of the assholes who will pull off DDOS attacks and the like simply because you dare to express your opinion.
This is very true.

If anything put a couple non important sites of yours on a separate server and post them in your profile like I do :P

It would be so cool if users here were verified but never gonna happen. Hope I'm wrong
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I love how you keep saying this.. it's not your domain dumbass..
You don't get it.

"LiveCamNetwork.net", is no longer my domain. "LiveCamNetwork" on the other hand, is my brand, my IP, and represents alot of work from alot of people.

Chris Butler aka "TheDynasty", is attempting to take credit for the work of others, confuse users familiar with the brand , and make money by tricking those users into paying for services that sponsors provide via his affiliate codes.

Fortunately for me, 4 programs so far have shit-canned his efforts to do this.

I get it - I fell asleep at the wheel. But had he worked with me from the beginning instead of try to sell it to my own employee, all of this could have been avoided, and his reputation might have gone up a notch instead of ending up in the toilet.

If you do not agree with me, or just don't like me in general that's your opinion and more power to you, but this, like my IP, is my opinion. Forgive me for sticking to it.

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