Bladewire

Wow you have a massively fucked up stereotype in your head THEY love when racist shit happens do they can claim racism.

How do you know the staff politely asked them to leave if they were not going to order anything right away? You don't! Maybe the "staff" was an asshole Trump supporter using his position to demean people. "Staff" calling the cops because 2 people are sitting at a table waiting for someone is fucked up.0

I bet you think black parents love when their unarmed kids are murdered by cops so they'll get a big settlement cause ... you know... Black folks... THEY love this kind of stuff to happen so they can claim the racist card.

You have it all worked out in your head because you're a mind reader and all black folks are the same. These guys were waiting for their friend who owed them drinks so they could use the restroom, the friend kept saying he was almost there. But nah, that scenario doesn't fit your racist stereotype because THEY this and THEY that in your head you have the scam and negative stereotype all worked out. Seriously what the fuck

SIK

You do know?

Speaking of stereotypes.. I don't know where people get those, regarding black people being politely told something...

Florida security guard is assaulted for trying to end a pool party | Miami Herald

That skinny white guard probably offended them on a deep level...

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Bladewire

Oh look at you not able to dig up anything good black folks do you just gotta perpetuate that negative black stereotype. You are so superior. Look in the mirror tonight and tell yourself you're an idiot. It won't be the first time, and it won't be the last. Ever see those old photos of 100 white face watching a black man get lynched? Yeah white folks are so different and civilized. Fuck off

Konda

So what other possible reason can they have to not leave when they are asked to by both the establishment's staff and the police.
If you are asked to leave someone's establishment you leave. If you refuse, it's your own fault and you can't pull the racist card.
The only reason these people don't comply with police orders is that they hope the police will get aggressive and they can claim racism.
Even if the police is wrong, you still listen and obey their orders, you can always complain or sue them later if you felt you were done wrong. Everyone knows if you don't follow police orders you'll get arrested, so it's a choice.

SIK

crime statistics confirm all I'm saying, cheers

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SIK

Exactly.

Kind of like getting pulled over by a cop, but you know you're NOT in any violation so you just drive by him without stopping. Once he chases you, you argue, coz it's racism

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Yep and for some reason people only see what they want to see.

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HairyChick

But these people never said that. They've not spoken or given a statement nor have they been identified. They refused to leave as they did nothing wrong. They simply waited for a friend. When arrested, they quietly rose, put their hands behind their back, and left in handcuffs.


No words were exchanged, no yelling, no claims of racism. These people were observed and taped. The company issued an apology and the manager placed on leave, I believe. They're probably investigating still.

Yes, technically they broke the law by refusing to leave. But they were asked to leave --- why? For waiting for a friend quietly? For not ordering while waiting though no sign said you must order if waiting? Or for being a stereotypical black male hanging out and seemingly up to no good merely by waiting quietly for a friend?

Yea, if they left it could have been avoided. But don't two men have the right to quietly wait for a friend before ordering?

The manager jumped to conclusions in assuming two black males were up to no good. Perhaps based on previous experiences or perhaps based on prejudice? After all, we all know two brothas or two niggas hanging around a cash business must be planning to rob it and rob the customers, right????!???

Obviously this issue is seen differently by people who've experienced discrimination in some form to those who live in a fantasy world and think all is good in the world and racism is imagined.

The only word I can think of is Trayvon.

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SIK

You like speaking like you were actually there and you're omitting facts on purpose.

I'd say that is another form of racism as well, believing in total crookedness of white people, even when everything is by the book. Why are you racist against white people? We're not all bad nor the same.

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SuckOnThis

Before Trump did you have a lot of physical ailments suppressing all your racism?

SIK

I'm not even an American so Trump didn't really change anything for me

I'm Croatian btw, and considering Croatia had wars on our land over last 1000+ years, I suppose I should hate every fucking nation, religion or color other than my own.

Guess what, I don't.

I do however call shit as shit when I see it. This entire story is shit.

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Matt-ADX

Fucking sucker punch too. Hope he gets attempted murder for that shit.

DBS.US

Lets see the whole event, not just the outcome. Lets see the body cam of the BLACK COP

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celandina

And where were you last 40 years, living in a cave ??

OneHungLo

You act like they were singled out. Like they were sitting there minding their own business. These guys specifically asked to use the restroom. They weren't randomly asked to leave. When they were refused and told they had to buy something, they started causing problems, arguing with staff, and apparently one guy just sat back down in protest (like refusing to leave). Most people would just buy something cheap to use the restroom and not cause a scene. They caused a scene and were asked to leave. And now you're throwing around Trayvon??? Talk about a red herring!

Pam, drive into NB and go into the hood to any coffee shop restroom and asked to use the restroom. 9 out of 10 times you'll be asked to buy something. This is a busy urban Starbucks that specifically has to the keep the bathroom doors locked because of problems they have with drug use and vagrants.

HairyChick

Where is it stated they caused problems after not being allowed to use the restroom?

Trayvon was targeted because he was black, just like these two men.

I have no problem with their being asked to buy something to use the restrooms. Witnesses said they quietly sat down with no argument.

Someone inferred I claimed racism as I’m always picked on or something like that for being black. I’m white but despise hatred and prejudice of any kind.

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HairyChick

I mentioned in my first post I was disappointed the media hadn’t picked it up. Now I have no complaints! Protests, front-page stories and talk show coverage is prominent.

CEO of Starbucks issued a half-assed apology but the damage is done. I’d love to see the numbers at lol Starbucks since this happened.

I just saw a video again and I’m amazed at how calmly the men were cuffed and quietly left without a word. They were smart enough to know to remain calm, don’t argue or claim innocence, just go along.

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poncabare

13% of the population commit 60% of all crime. I'm sure its just old whitey being jerks once again. Nice thread

bronco67

Your Croatian? What the fuck would you know about any of this? Go stick your head in a bowl of ghoulash and make it stay there until your lungs are filled.

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Another non industry foreign fake nuck posting in support of Trump & Putin no surprise.

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Bladewire

That's not documented anywhere. All witnesses said they were calm and minding their own business.

When you have to lie to support your agenda then you're on the losing side princess.

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OneHungLo

This is rich coming from you

HairyChick

I’ve read at least twenty articles online about this and not a single one mentioned that they caused problems. They sat down to wait for their friend.

I think people assume they caused problems but in court not a single bit of proof was provided.

The CEO claims the police weren’t called to arrest them. What, just to escort them out peacefully? Maybe the intention was just removal but they did nothing wrong. Can’t bitch if they nicely refused to leave.

A lot of celebrities are posting about this. TI wrote a nice, honest Tweet and several cekebs said not to punish Starbucks but just that manager bitch. I had to think on that. She represents Starbucks but it’s not their policy. I’d boycott that store only if that manager remained. Apparently she’s gone but conflicting information is coming out. Some say termination, some say transfer.

If I were CEO, she’d be on unemployment. Leopards don’t change their spots. Prejudice doesn’t just go away. Her reputation will follow her since her name and photo were posted

They WERE singled out. Other customers claim they’ve gone in to use WiFi or meet friends and didn’t order. All were left alone and all, so far, are white.

People are influenced by a single incident. 9/11 made people think all Muslims are murderers and anti-USA. Media shows gang-bangers as black like there are no white gangs. Boston Marathon bombing made people leery of Muslims. Gay child molestors makes people think all gay men like kids. Hell’s Angels makes people think all bikers are murdering thugs. Etc etc etc.

Stereotypes aren’t accurate. Individual people are different whether by color, race, gender, religion, hair color (“all blondes are dumb”) and more.

All adult webmasters don’t sell stolen content, use underaged folks, promote rape, steal content, or abuse without consent. But society hears “adult webmaster”and links you to illegal activity. Think on that level. A few sites had bad stuff, a few webmasters did bad stuff, but everyone thinks you do, too, based solely on your being an adult website owner

Things that make you go hmmmm .....

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SIK

Your = You're. You also spelled goulash wrong.

I seem to more know about it than you, which is concerning if you're an USA citizen.
You should at least get your grammar right when you try to insult and discriminate me based on where I'm from. Fact checking would help you as well, Croatians aren't big fans of goulash.

Funny that none of the white knights are gonna tell you it's wrong to assume based on stereotypes...

I'm being called "non industry and fake" by a dude who got TRUMP in every single fucking post he makes on a webmaster board

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OneHungLo

Again, they weren't singled out. THEY brought themselves to the attention of the manager by asking to use the restroom. The manager then noticed they hadn't purchased anything and told them the restroom was for paying customers only. Singled out would have been if the manager walked by 4 tables of empty handed white people sitting there and went up to the black table and asked them to buy something or leave. To me, then you'd have a case.

Instead of being defiant had they just purchased something and followed the rules, we wouldn't be here.

DBS.US

That's their problem

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SIK

Did you order a drink?

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Bladewire

You got the first part tight.

What country are you from again? I forget, it was in a thread here done where yesterday.

You should put your country in your profile like everyone else Mr. Anonymous

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I don't see your country either. Let me guess, Zimbabwe?

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HairyChick

8,000 Starbucks Torres will be closed on May 29 for employee race sensitivity training. The manager’s action will cause a loss of revenue for employees and probably $80k for the corporation.

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Jel

Of all the many, many racist events in the world that happen daily, this wasn't one of them. How this has evolved into some kind of need for 'race sensitivity training' is fucking nuts, wtf lol

OneHungLo

True. This is just embarrassing.

HairyChick

One incident and they have to retrain everyone. They are going overboard but are trying to save face. If someone is inherently racist, training won’t change them.

8,000 stores closed is some serious income loss.

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Jel

And you mean: the actions of 2 idiots who rather than become paying customers like everyone else in the store, decided to be jerks.

I can hold my own with the best of them when it comes to being an immature asshole, and all-round cunt. I surely hold my fucking hands up to the fact I'm one though, rather than turn it into something it isn't, and become not only a dickhead but one that shirks personal responsibility. To blame anyone other than the 2 clowns who refused to even say 'here we'll pay for our order now and collect when our friend arrives so there's no doubt we are paying customers' is laughable to any sane, level-headed person.

Try doing that in any busy place that serves food/drink and has a limited amount of seating for customers, then use the toilets as well while you're at it. If you can, great and fuck starbucks or whoever. If you get found out and asked to buy something, don't cite some kind of nonsense like discrimination, you just look more of a cunt than you already were.

Being a cunt = good

Not admitting you are a cunt, and on top of that trying to shift blame = bad

oppoten

You won't make us whites hate ourselves, OP.

Take your Trayvons to your Israel, and let's see how they're treated there.

oppoten

Well then we know the agenda is Jewish.

Thanks for spelling it out.

(in case anyone is in any doubt, the ADL got involved)

Jel

get help

OneHungLo

congrats

crockett

It depends on the area.. Philly is a big city. They could have lots of issues with loitering and people hanging out not buying stuff and not leaving room for paying customers.

Its pretty common in busy areas to have time limits. I didn't watch the video but was the shop busy?

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candyflip

Which is why you don’t realize they have a huge menu and a large selection of drinks that aren’t coffee based.

I bought Starbucks for my all coworkers today.

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candyflip

It doesn’t matter why. A business can rightfully refuse service for whatever reason, at any time. It has been that way forever and most civilized people can handle this.

So yes, like you said...they broke the law. Are you suggesting they should be cut slack because they’re black?

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just a punk

Why not? according to the US laws he is a slave.

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