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Old 05-08-2018, 04:27 PM   #51
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Trump had no intention in signing any deals, he made that clear while running as a candidate, its been reinforced with Kerry being in Iran in the past few weeks trying to save the deal, had of Trump had people on the ground doing the same.. Kerry would be getting meetings with no one. Trump wasn't even attempting to patch it.

Its war or nothing with him.
I saw that Kerry was in Iran working on this, and was surprised by it. Is he there representing the US government?
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:30 PM   #52
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Has anyone noticed yet that Donald Trump hasn't actually made any deals since he's been president? He seems to be good at killing Barack Obama's deals, but that's about it.
He does seem to have an obsession with it. It feels like the current Republican leadership governs by looking at things and saying, "If it will piss of liberals, we will do it." They also say, "If Obama had something to do with it, we will destroy it."

It reminds me of some third world countries where a new leader takes over and does everything in their power to make it look like the previous leaders never existed.
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The overwhelming majority of the world did not sign the agreement with Iran. Out of only one hundred and ninety-three countries, only China, France, Germany, Iran, United States, Russia, United Kingdom, and the European Union signed the agreement.

The only two things we can do to stop a country from getting nuclear weapons is to impose sanctions or go to war. Sanctions failed to work with North Korea, and we were unwilling to go to war with them to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons - which they now have.
Your response has little if anything to do with what I said but that is OK Marine.
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I saw that Kerry was in Iran working on this, and was surprised by it. Is he there representing the US government?
No and the Donald told him to step out.
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I saw that Kerry was in Iran working on this, and was surprised by it. Is he there representing the US government?
No he wasn't, Team Trump had no one on the ground and no intention of fixing or patching the deal that took 10 years to get implemented. Kerry was trying to starve off ww3 and Trumps dead set on beginning it.

Iran has made it clear they don't give a fuck about sanctions or renegotiating any deals.

It all hangs now on if other counties are going to say fuck the USA we will trade with them anyways.

Iran has said if that doesn't happen they will start spinning weapons grade uranium again, 6-12 months for them to have enough to start arming weapons.. however their finance minster was in North Korea last week ;)

USA and Israel won't like any of that, so basically ya got 6-12 months to invade.

Its not something that's going to be renegotiated, 30 days for Trump to flip or other countries to step in, count down has started.
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We're not going to invade Iran. Let's all relax.
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We're not going to invade Iran. Let's all relax.
It's like a house filled with old women in this place. I wish I had been here to see what was being said about the North Korea stuff last year - I bet it was more of the same.

Soon, Iran will be free of their shitty regime. End of lesson.

Most of you are not ready to hear or see it - understandable.

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Has anyone noticed yet that Donald Trump hasn't actually made any deals since he's been president? He seems to be good at killing Barack Obama's deals, but that's about it.
No, because that's false. Please get informed before commenting


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I saw that Kerry was in Iran working on this, and was surprised by it. Is he there representing the US government?
No, he is in violation of the Logan Act and should be arrested.


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No he wasn't, Team Trump had no one on the ground and no intention of fixing or patching the deal that took 10 years to get implemented. Kerry was trying to starve off ww3 and Trumps dead set on beginning it.
HUH? The deal allowed Iran to have nukes. Trump is against that plan. You're delusional.

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We're not going to invade Iran. Let's all relax.
You can't relax based on what both sides are currently saying.

Trump want's to break the deal, Iran has said they've no intention of renegotiating it. Iran also said today if sanctions return, they'll start spinning weapons grade uranium again. By the time any sanctions bite the economy, Iran will have enough to start making weapons. Trumps said he wants to start sanctions in 30 days.

USA can invade Iran or Israel is going to be erased from the map.
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You can't relax based on what both sides are currently saying.

Trump want's to break the deal, Iran has said they've no intention of renegotiating it. Iran also said today if sanctions return, they'll start spinning weapons grade uranium again. By the time any sanctions bite the economy, Iran will have enough to start making weapons. Trumps said he wants to start sanctions in 30 days.

USA can invade Iran or Israel is going to be erased from the map.
Israel can do its own erasing and has stated more than once that if Israel is doomed it will take the world out with it. Strong words but I have a tendency to accept that statement at face value or at least think they will try to carry that out to the very best of their ability.
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He violated the terms of the agreement, just like the loser he is who went bankrupt 5 times.

The other countries are still in the agreement, it's not like it ends because Trump pulls out his shriveled dick
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Trumps said he wants to start sanctions in 30 days.

USA can invade Iran or Israel is going to be erased from the map.
Trump saids a million times that he doesn't believe in letting the enemy know what's going to happen in advance, but here he is telling thrm in advance what he's going to do just like he did with North Korea just like he did with Syria just like he did with Russia. Fucking lying dotard.
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You can't relax based on what both sides are currently saying.

Trump want's to break the deal, Iran has said they've no intention of renegotiating it. Iran also said today if sanctions return, they'll start spinning weapons grade uranium again. By the time any sanctions bite the economy, Iran will have enough to start making weapons. Trumps said he wants to start sanctions in 30 days.

USA can invade Iran or Israel is going to be erased from the map.
Highly unlikely. Look, I know USA has some things to sort out these days and we're not currently led by the best people, a lot of us know that. But have some faith, we've had rough patches and poor leaders before and we made it through those tough times.

And I'm not too terribly concerned with the nk nuclear arsenal. It's certainly not a serious threat of harm, combined with the peace process between the koreas, I'm pretty relaxed about it. there will be peace in korea and nk settling down, in spite of trump.
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Highly unlikely. Look, I know USA has some things to sort out these days and we're not currently led by the best people, a lot of us know that. But have some faith, we've had rough patches and poor leaders before and we made it through those tough times.

And I'm not too terribly concerned with the nk nuclear arsenal. It's certainly not a serious threat of harm, combined with the peace process between the koreas, I'm pretty relaxed about it. there will be peace in korea and nk settling down, in spite of trump.
Barack Obama

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"Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East."

I don't believe a nuclear armed Iran is an option because of who they're going to target, and the power that country has controlling your own government, Republican or Democrat.

Which leaves?
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"Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East."

I don't believe a nuclear armed Iran is an option because of who they're going to target, and the power that country has controlling your own government, Republican or Democrat.

Which leaves?
I didn't know we were talking about war in the middle east in general at some point. Sure anything can happen and I'd bet there will be plenty of warring in the me in the future. You stated that the US will invade Iran.. and soon. That's a lot different and something I think is highly unlikely. Also, trump just shot himself in the foot nuking the deal, he'll never get a coalition together to make that happen, as mentioned earlier, he's no deal maker. he's a deal breaker.

Too many things stand in the way of a US invasion of Iran.
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I didn't know we were talking about war in the middle east in general at some point. Sure anything can happen and I'd bet there will be plenty of warring in the me in the future. You stated that the US will invade Iran.. and soon. That's a lot different and something I think is highly unlikely. Also, trump just shot himself in the foot nuking the deal, he'll never get a coalition together to make that happen, as mentioned earlier, he's no deal maker. he's a deal breaker.

Too many things stand in the way of a US invasion of Iran.
Its not what stands in the way of the USA, but what's now standing in the way of Iran acquiring nukes. Then at what stage of that development do other countries step in to delay it. No treaty means no inspectors, no one they can all get the fuck out and have no right to be there any more. All indications are Iran could spinup weaponised uranium in 6-12 months.

30 days time line to change that scenario.
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I don't like any of that either. But the US would never invade iran over any of that. It would take Iran building and launching a nuke for us to invade them.
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Getting out of the IRAN deal that NATO approved and all of the allies approved.

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I don't like any of that either. But the US would never invade iran over any of that. It would take Iran building and launching a nuke for us to invade them.
Iran directly blame Israel for their issues, Israel is the primary target for them, Israel currently believes Iran is making weapons grade uranium. With no treaty, they certainly will be. Despite having a better equipped military Israel is still a small country in comparison, Israel 8 million : Iran 80 million.

Israel can't fight this alone, Israel can't risk Iran having nukes. Before any sanctions cause damage.. Iran will have nukes.


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"If you say anything else or nothing, I'll beat you with it"

The student thinks a bit, then reaches out grabs the stick and breaks it.

Sometimes you need to break the stick.

Trump is the stick.. 30 days
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Lot of simplistic, one sided views.

The deal was struck the way it could not stand in the long term. The Islamic republic of Iran (this is the official name) has a lot of disturbing things in its charter alone. One would need to understand the meaning of treaty in Islam to be able to interpret such deal, a treaty is only valid as long as it's convenient for the Islamic party, as long as the Islamic party is not strong enough, in a position to break it.

Don't confuse Iran (as a historically Persian territory and people) with the Islamic republic of Iran. The deal was struck with the Islamic republic of Iran. The Islamic republic of Iran (Islamic theocracy) is not a reliable partner, its only (and a major) value is as a counter force to the Sunni expansionism.

One of the primary reasons for the recent riots and protests in Iran (which were of course completely omitted and downplayed by our mainstream media not to "offend" the Islamic regime) was that the actual population of Iran saw exactly zero from the funds that were released by the Obama regime. It certainly helped to strenghten the regime and its armed forces, and make any prospect of change way less likely though.
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Alternative for the nuclear deal will be war with Iran or nuclear Iran or sign a new deal.
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And I guess you know more about all of this than the President of the United States? Fascinating. Why are you posting on a webmaster forum then? Why aren't you running a country with your superior knowledge of everything?
this is not hard. everybody in the fucking world knows more than this amateur economist and professional liar.
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So, you are saying it was a good move for the economy? DOW closed up.
Tell your nurse to read you the numbers of today.

oil is 2,9% up and now guess where the DOW will go with such an oil price.
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Iran directly blame Israel for their issues, Israel is the primary target for them, Israel currently believes Iran is making weapons grade uranium. With no treaty, they certainly will be. Despite having a better equipped military Israel is still a small country in comparison, Israel 8 million : Iran 80 million.

Israel can't fight this alone, Israel can't risk Iran having nukes. Before any sanctions cause damage.. Iran will have nukes.


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"If you say anything else or nothing, I'll beat you with it"

The student thinks a bit, then reaches out grabs the stick and breaks it.

Sometimes you need to break the stick.

Trump is the stick.. 30 days
the international atomic energy agency made 10 inspections and has confirmed 10 times that Iran fully complies with all requirements.

so far, rouhani's opinion of the EU is more important and will continue to abide by the treaty. if the EU agrees to the sanctions, the whole thing is really dangerous. because if iran attacking israel, the arab world would put itself at the side of iran. the usa would have to put itself on the side of isreal and thus would mean a real war between the muslim world and the west.

as the arab world would not be able to win such a war on a conventional way it would be a war based on terror as we have never seen it before.
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Sigh. Well, the good news is you are going to be pleasantly surprised in the future - so at least you have that to look forward to.

Iran will be one of the last (but not THE last) of these USA-installed bad guy regimes to be dealt with. I doubt they will go quietly as they are losing ground rapidly, so expect some fireworks over there - and more bedwetting by a few peeps here.

Poor Europe.
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Hezbollah, Amal and allies biggest winners in Lebanon elections
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Donald Trump’s America has just become a rogue nation

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-...09-p4zebu.html

Trump puts politics and his own political self-interest ahead of peace and security. The Iran deal has been opposed vociferously by Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and he carries much of the US Republican party with him.

The deal is unpopular with Republican voters. Trump is catering to them in an effort to keep the support of his base and the support of the Republicans in Congress who are his ultimate protection against any possible impeachment.

there is zero consistency in Trump’s thinking on even the weightiest matters. So at the very time he is seeking a deal to constrain North Korea’s nuclear weapons program, he has exuberantly rejected one that is constraining Iran’s

Trump’s decision demonstrates that he doesn’t care about the interests of America’s allies. Indeed, “history may recall it as the day the US abandoned its belief in allies,”
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Trump puts politics and his own political self-interest ahead of peace and security. The Iran deal has been opposed vociferously by Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and he carries much of the US Republican party with him.

The deal is unpopular with Republican voters. Trump is catering to them in an effort to keep the support of his base and the support of the Republicans in Congress who are his ultimate protection against any possible impeachment.
Just imagine! Doing what you promised to do when you were campaigning? Winning and following through - truly, this is the only shocking news.

Not to worry, Australia - we have more than 5 eyes on you. Things will be okay.
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This morning in Iran they are protesting chanting "Death to Americans" and burning American flags.

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they've been doing that for years. Decades really.
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This morning in Iran they are protesting chanting "Death to Americans" and burning American flags.

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if the roles were reversed americans would be doing the same...the USA simply will not leave them alone...
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a shell-shocked butthurt serb posting on behalf of all Americans.

meanwhile, the Americans here actually know better.
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if the roles were reversed americans would be doing the same...the USA simply will not leave them alone...
You're sad. You love Trump & Putin and you're blaming Trump for doing what Putin wants.

This is all about raising the price of oil, which will help Putin in a huge way, who's main export is oil. It also helps Trump's base, the worlds most wealthiest top .1%
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Exactly. The same idiots day in and day out. If you’ve got this much time to spend arguing on the internet, you’re not accomplishing much of anything else.
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a shell-shocked butthurt serb posting on behalf of all Americans.

meanwhile, the Americans here actually know better.
bomb dropper you guys could not shut the fuck up about 9/11 for over 15 years, so it is safe to say that if somebody did to you, what you did to iran, for decades, americans would be chanting "death to country X" 24/7


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You're sad. You love Trump & Putin and you're blaming Trump for doing what Putin wants.

This is all about raising the price of oil, which will help Putin in a huge way, who's main export is oil. It also helps Trump's base, the worlds most wealthiest top .1%
no I am stating the obvious: you guys just wont leave them alone...it has nothing to do with trump/pooty or any other individual...
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I've dropped bombs? right after I chant death to Iran, right? or before. before and after!
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I've dropped bombs? right after I chant death to Iran, right? or before. before and after!
you can play dumb to what your country does all you want...the people of iran are not chanting "death to america" for no reason...they are doing it because your country will not leave them the fuck alone...you know this, I know this, everybody knows this...if the roles were reversed I highly doubt americans would be as chill about it as iranians are
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I'm not playing dumb at all, I'm fully aware. You seem to think GFYers are bomb droppers. Heads up: I don't get to participate in that decision process. Maybe that's why you are confused, you are unaware of how our government works, because you certainly were not in Yugoslavia when NATO bombed, your confusion doesn't stem from shell shock.

either one of those explains why you think GFYers actually drop bombs.
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I'm not playing dumb at all, I'm fully aware. You seem to think GFYers are bomb droppers. Heads up: I don't get to participate in that decision process. Maybe that's why you are confused, you are unaware of how our government works, because you certainly were not in Yugoslavia when NATO bombed, your confusion doesn't stem from shell shock.

either one of those explains why you think GFYers actually drop bombs.

dude if I am shell shocked you are a bomb dropper take your tiny penis explanations and shove them up your bomb dropper ass
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that's what I just stated. You are not a shell shocked serb and I am not an American bomb dropper.
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I'm glad I got that sorted out for you. you can stop with the crybaby serb stuff now.
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that's what I just stated. You are not a shell shocked serb and I am not an American bomb dropper.
you can try and "bladewire" me all you want faggot it does not change anything I said...
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