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Old 06-13-2018, 08:36 AM   #51
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A field training exercise, generally shortened to the acronym "FTX", describes a coordinated exercise conducted by military units for training purposes.

Foal Eagle is a combined field training exercise (FTX) conducted annually by the Republic of Korea Armed Forces and the United States Armed Forces under the auspices of the Combined Forces Command.

Key Resolve, previously known as Reception, Staging, Onward Movement, Integration (RSOI) which was previously known as Team Spirit even earlier, is an annual command post exercise (CPX) held by United States Forces Korea with the Republic of Korea Armed Forces. Since 2001, Key Resolve combined with the annual combined field training exercise (FTX) Foal Eagle.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:39 AM   #52
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Nk made out like a bandit. They are out of isolation and their leader will meet with other leaders.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:43 AM   #53
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:47 AM   #54
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sorry steve, you are completely incorrect to assume joint military exercises are primarily for show.

they are primarily field training exercises. that's why they are called field training exercises (FTX)
You are of course going to have it your way but I know what I am talking about not only from personal experience/knowledge. I was in the military and I also worked at the Pentagon where I finished my military career. I had personal knowledge of things that the public was/is totally unaware of.

Of course any training is beneficial but public war games are primarily for a show of power and are not primarily for the preparation of war. A military air show is of course beneficial training but is not performed as a preparation for war.

I am not aware of any public war game ever in the history of war that has been a preparation for war. So I will use what I "know" to be fact and you can use what you "think" to be fact. Once again I agree to disagree.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:55 AM   #55
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You are of course going to have it your way but I know what I am talking about not only from personal experience/knowledge. I was in the military and I also worked at the Pentagon where I finished my military career. I had personal knowledge of things that the public was/is totally unaware of.

Of course any training is beneficial but public war games are primarily for a show of power and are not primarily for the preparation of war. A military air show is of course beneficial training but is not performed as a preparation for war.

I am not aware of any public war game ever in the history of war that has been a preparation of war. So I will use what I "know" to be fact and you can use what you "think" to be fact. Once again I agree to disagree.

those posts I made aren't my way, Steve, they are the definitions of the training exercises in the region, verbatim. It's unfortunate you equate military training exercises with air shows and parades because that's a comparison that reveals you are confused.

Your disagreeing with the facts has no bearing on me amigo.
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Japan's defense chief said on Wednesday the U.S. military's presence in South Korea and joint military exercises were "vital" for East Asian security after President Donald Trump's surprise statement that he would halt war games with the South.

"We would like to seek an understanding of this between Japan, the U.S. and South Korea," Japan's Minister of Defense Itsunori Onodera told reporters.

Onodera said Japan would continue joint military exercises with the United States and would stick to plans to bolster its defenses against a possible ballistic missile strike from North
Korea.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/12/u-s-...nse-chief.html
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those posts I made aren't my way, Steve, they are the definitions of the training exercises in the region, verbatim. It's unfortunate you equate military training exercises with air shows and parades because that's a comparison that reveals you are confused.

Your disagreeing with the facts has no bearing on me amigo.
Bottom line all and any training that the military receives is ultimately training for war as that is the purpose of the military. The "fact" remains that "public" war games are not preparations for war. It is and always has been primarily a show of force. Never in the history of war has a "public" war game been a direct preparation for war. If you are insisting that is what a "public" war game is for you just are ignorant about the use of "public" war games.

If you can, which you can't please inform me where any public war game has been a prelude/preparation for war. Do so from a link, a book, a video or any other source than science fiction.
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I never stated the military training exercises are preparations for war.

I've simply stated the fact that they are military training exercises by design and backed that up with resources stating exactly that.
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I never stated the military training exercises are preparations for war.

I've simply stated the fact that they are military training exercises by design and backed that up with resources stating exactly that.
I of course know that but you were seemingly trying to make a big deal out of what is "unless or until" temporary halting of public war games with SK is some how crippling our military and it is not. The public war games are a part of but not the edge of the sword training that the military was doing over the past months about which I was initially speaking of. I think we two are having a semantics problem more than anything.
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I of course know that but you were seemingly trying to make a big deal out of what is "unless or until" temporary halting of public war games with SK is some how crippling our military and it is not. The public war games are a part of but not the edge of the sword training that the military was doing over the past months about which I was initially speaking of. I think we two are having a semantics problem more than anything.
seems Japan thinks it's a big deal. For me, it's yet another freebie trump negotiated away, out of the blue. In return for nothing. they never asked for it, he volunteered it.
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NOT all military are working towards war, I was on a submarine, no one even saw us, we were not there to scare anyone, no one even knew where we were at. We did joint operations with other nations from time to time, the Japanese were pretty good, the UK not so much at the time.
The USS Ronald Reagan earned 2 medals for humanitarian operations in the Philippines, running one of their reactors to power the city, produce fresh water right out of the bay, fly in supplies and the use of their on board hospital.
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seems Japan thinks it's a big deal. For me, it's yet another freebie trump negotiated away, out of the blue. In return for nothing. they never asked for it, he volunteered it.
Probably one of the few that understand invisible 7-11, tripping threw a parking lot
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NOT all military are working towards war, I was on a submarine, no one even saw us, we were not there to scare anyone, no one even knew where we were at. We did joint operations with other nations from time to time, the Japanese were pretty good, the UK not so much at the time.
The USS Ronald Reagan earned 2 medals for humanitarian operations in the Philippines, running one of their reactors to power the city, produce fresh water right out of the bay, fly in supplies and the use of their on board hospital.
The military is of course used for other purposes than engaging in combat but their primary purpose is to engage in combat. As you well know.
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NOT all military are working towards war, I was on a submarine, no one even saw us, we were not there to scare anyone, no one even knew where we were at. We did joint operations with other nations from time to time, the Japanese were pretty good, the UK not so much at the time.
The USS Ronald Reagan earned 2 medals for humanitarian operations in the Philippines, running one of their reactors to power the city, produce fresh water right out of the bay, fly in supplies and the use of their on board hospital.
I wonder how many submarines we have off of Korea...
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The military is of course used for other purposes than engaging in combat but their primary purpose is to engage in combat. As you well know.
What I was saying is that is not a correct assessment, ours was not war, even the boomer class subs, for them it was determent. For any power to stand up to the US is crazy

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I wonder how many submarines we have off of Korea...
1 is all that's needed
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In other words: Un got resolution on what he wanted in 1 day.
Yes, he did. Like a child gets a McDonald's hamburger for lunch.
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