Bladewire

"The effect is a type of cognitive bias, where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they don’t have enough knowledge to know they don’t have enough knowledge. Or, stated more harshly, they are “too dumb to know they are dumb.”"

Here’s the psychological problem that causes Trump supporters to keep getting duped


In the past, some prominent psychologists have explained President Donald Trump’s unwavering support by alluding to a well-established psychological phenomenon known as the “Dunning-Kruger effect.” The effect is a type of cognitive bias, where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they don’t have enough knowledge to know they don’t have enough knowledge. Or, stated more harshly, they are “too dumb to know they are dumb.” This simple but loopy concept has been demonstrated dozens of times in well-controlled psychology studies and in a variety of contexts. However, until now, the effect had not been studied in one of the most obvious and important realms—political knowledge.

A new study published in the journal Political Psychology, carried out by the political scientist Ian Anson at the University of Maryland Baltimore County, not only found that the Dunning-Kruger effect applies to politics, it also appears to be exacerbated when partisan identities are made more salient. In other words, those who score low on political knowledge tend to overestimate their expertise even more when greater emphasis is placed on political affiliation.

Anson told PsyPost that he became increasingly interested in the effect after other academics were discussing its potential role in the 2016 U.S. presidential election on social media. “I follow a number of political scientists who marveled at the social media pundit class’ seeming display of ‘Dunning-Kruger-ish tendencies’ in their bombastic coverage of the election.” However, speculation by scientists does not always translate into statistically-significant findings, so Anson began thinking of ways to experimentally test what he described as a “very serious accusation.”

In order to have a large representative sample of subjects, Dr. Anson administered online surveys to over 2,600 Americans. The first survey was designed to assess political knowledge, while the second was used to examine how confident they were in their knowledge. Questions quizzed participants on topics like names of cabinet members, the length of term limits for members of Congress, and the names of programs that the U.S. government spends the least on.

~Ray

What is the psychosis called when you are unable to recover from a loss?

Can't we all just get along?

Bladewire

Why go into the past?

Why can't you focus on the present?

Trump has been POTUS for two years and we're living in a real time, real life, shitshow of presidential incompetence and Trump supporters refuse to face the present day reality.

Now we know why, the “Dunning-Kruger effect.”

Bladewire

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DraX

Bladewire instead of crying like a woman start working on a more competent democratic presidential candidate for next election.

One that is better than Trump...

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bronco67

This is exactly what I've been saying for the last 2 years. They're too fucking stupid to know how stupid they are.

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bronco67

Exactly. When someone has to explain why he'snot a racist, that means he's a racist. To explain it to the racist dolts around here....if you've been accused, then you probably are. Accept it.

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crockett

Ask this guy and all those guys who used to stand outside the post office trying to collect signatures to somehow magically impeach Obama.. None of you cared about "getting along" while Obama was POTUS.. You were all sore losers. The tea party came into existence due to far right hate because a black guy was the POTUS..

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TheSquealer

The new Democratic Party.... the Party of Hate, the Party of Bigotry and Intolerance and the Party of Bullies.

You either conform to the Leftist narrative of the day, or get shouted down, get called names like "alt right", "nazi" and "racist" and they'll do anything and everything to attack you with no holds barred to prevent anyone but them being heard.

No respect whatsoever for different views
No respect whatsoever for different opinions
No respect whatsoever for our Democracy
No respect whatsoever for anyone who doesn't agree with them

This.... is why you've lost the White House, Senate, the House and more state legislative seats since the Civil War.

Rather than tempering your behavior and getting the Democratic Party back on track with a vision and better plans.... you keep doubling down on your hatred and intolerance for anyone and everyone that isn't you or that doesn't share your twisted view of the world.


The vote for Trump was a vote against Leftist hatred, bigotry and intolerance. It was a vote against everything you guys are. Everything the normal working class is tired of in politics in the USA. You can't even understand what it means to have a billionaire living in a golden tower, connecting more and having a message that resonates more with the working class than any Democratic candidate.

But yeah... "muh russia".

Good luck in November.

Still waiting on that "Blue Wave"

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oppoten

It's not the same thing. This is saying that something is true, when the opposite is supposedly true.

That "effect" implies saying something is a lot true, when it is in fact a little bit true. Not the same thing at all.

Bladewire

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Acepimp

The "party of tolerance" are the true fascists, much like Hitler's brown shirts

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thommy

but it is nothing new.
all dictatorships work with stupids by telling them that they are smart.

there are many other symptoms ie.

if you criticize a stupid he will hate you for it.
if you do the same with a smart guy he will say thank you.

what these guys will never get is that populism is the science of stupids.
go too a football game - the whole audience knows to play better as the ones what get paid millions for it. you just have to give them the feeling that their stupid thoughts are right and they will do all for you.

putin i.e is very smart - he made the stupids his soldiers without paying them.

if one of them ever would have looked in the history they would know that ALL this dictatorships started by

1. don´t believe the media - they lie on you
they will catch that easy because complex situations are not easy to get from a small
brainer. if they don´t understand that the earth is round and why people on the other
side don´´t fall down - just tell them it is flat - this is what they understand and what
they want to believe.

2. explain them economy by words like "you pay for it" or "they steal it from you"
every bonsai brain will love to catch that because it makes economy so easy.

3. give them an enemy. not them but someone else have to be guilty. and if this someone
looks weak enough the will love to become heroes.

4. tell them that THEY are the good ones and the other are the bad ones.
every stupid will love to believe.

5. build rhetoric in a chain. that means: don´t prove your argument but prove the
logic what follows a wrong argument. goebbels was perfect in that.
he said: nearly every german knows one good jew but we are 80 million germans.
do we have to accept 80 million jews just because of ONE we know ?
THIS is the logic bonsai brainers will follow like a good trained dog.
they don´t understand logic - they don´t believe how easy it is to manipulate them
into the stupid direction because the ARE ALREADY in this corner. you just have to tell
them that THIS is the ONE AND ONLY corner what makes sense.
a lazy stupid (morst of them are lazy) will love it because they are scared to walk this
way to the other corner to see what is there. they will swear that there are no other
corners or that the other corners are hell.

all ideology - all religion - all sects are working like that.
how many people got killed from others because they believe in heaven or in hell.
not one of them have ever seen or have a prove for what they have killed for.
and yes this is definitely STUPID.

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dyna mo

exclaims the stupid who spews hate at everyone who criticizes him.

slapass

But there is no cure. Most people informed understand unintended consequences. They understand that some problems are complicated. That is why we vote in people to solve those issues. No one is an expert in everything. The US needed to die/change one day. Maybe it is now,

TheSquealer

It's a little comical that the "anti bullying" crowd are the biggest bullies.

This is a long conversation in psychology and neuroscience, but i will say simply that both sites are the same and looking at the same things through a slightly different mental filter. They carry on about religion being stupid but turn climate change into a religion, vegetarianism into a religion, social causes into a religion etc. for example, they will call you bully and start anti-bully campaigns as they bully you. the behaviors on both sides are the exact same, they just manifest themselves in slightly different ways.

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thommy

you just proved my statement.

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nico-t

every day it's opposite day for the brainwashed trump obsessed idiots. It's incredible really.

thommy

if you believe in a guy that tells you that NOTHING what you read in the media is true - than i will not try to make you understand that you are NOT Napoleon - you will not believe it anyway. so it is a senseless discussion with people who believe in conspiracy theories and ghosts.

the smart ones will show you soon that your 4th reich will not come.

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nico-t

The 4th reich (the EU) is already a reality, Mr. Oblivious. You're blabbing your mouth about 'dictator Trump', but guess what. People actually voted for him which is called 'democracy'.

Who the fuck voted for Juncker?

And even IF we vote for an EU law, like the Dutch who voted AGAINST the EU constitution in 2005, we get it anyway!

The EU is the real dictatorship. Yet you're completely blind for reality.

wehateporn

I don't believe you're having the effect on GFY that Media Matters and Soros had hoped you would

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Self proclaimed neuroscience expert and George Soros right hand Thommy hates democracy and believes EU should be forced upon all European citizens.

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dyna mo

thank you for proving over and over how hateful and ignorant you are.

CarlosTheGaucho

Yet another desperate attempt to paint one half of the US citizens with a broad brush.

What political tradition was that - to dehumanize one's opposition in order so they could be easier silenced or persecuted? To call them stupid, "-ist" "-ist" "-got" "not worthy a vote" "uneducated" etc. etc.

To make it a mainstream non stop touted narrative that they are somewhat less worthy, that they need to be silenced, that they need to be persecuted for their beliefs?

To establish peer pressure and to make it a mortal sin to oppose the established narrative?

And now you still wonder why so many already decided to #Walkaway ?

Here you go:



(btw. I'm sure this has to be Putin's work - the lady is obviously a bot paid by Kremlin - idiots)

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DraX

I wonder if anyone took the time and watch the video. Compared with the democratic tools of gfy this woman is a genius, YES a genius. She's calm, humble, using common sense and making logical conclusions.

8 min of sharing her experience with what's going on in the U.S., news and the political field based only on that I'd say she's wife material with only that in mind.

It also shows how infected the debate is and how the liberals and democrats really don't bring anything of value to the tables these days.

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Bladewire

Hey idiot, let me educate you, by the way, why am I the one always having to educate you stupid fucking alt-right pieces of shit?

Half the population didn't vote for Trump you fucking idiot.

Do you understand that?

As much as you have wet dreams that half the population licks deep in Trump's shitty ass like you, you're fucking wrong, as usual.

A measly 63 million people voted for Trump.

66 million voted for Clinton.

The population of America is 326 million.

19% of the population voted for Trump.

19% of the population are fucking idiots like you

Fuck off moron

ilnjscb

So if I call you an idiot what will you do?

ilnjscb

"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision." ----Bertrand Russell

Seems to fit

beerptrol

The Traitor In Chief is running his mouth that the Russians are going to help the Dems this election. He's already dirtying the waters again

Trump says he’s worried about Russian meddling ... to elect Democrats

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Bladewire

He's worried about Russian meddling, but as president, he's doing nothing to combat Russian meddling or protect our election process.

Trump hasn't had one press conference about protecting our election process or upgrading voting machines, nothing. But he's more than happy to put out the lie that he's afraid of Russian meddling in the election to hurt him.

wehateporn

Voting machines whether upgraded or downgraded makes no difference, they are suspicious as get, get rid of them

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CarlosTheGaucho

You're not really too good with fact based reasoning? How about constitution?

Well I guess throwing tantrums will do, won't it?

Carry on - another perfect example why so many have already decided to #Walkaway

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Bladewire

Truth: 19% of the population voted for Trump

Lie: 50% of the population voted for Trump

People like you have to lie to try and convince others what you want them to believe in your world of Lies.

Truth is like Kryptonite to conmen like you

CarlosTheGaucho

Don't play a smart ass, your input is not needed for those more sane people to understand what I meant.

Get back to meet your daily quota of starting enough "Trump supporter" threads.

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TheSquealer

The New Left

Intolerant of democracy
Intolerant of opinions
Intolerant of other views
Intolerant of free speech

They are now THE bullies. Doing everything possible to insult others to shut them up by calling racist and nazi, shout them down and even start talking about wishing death on anyone with a differing opinion to stifle discussion or any hint of opposition to the narrative which you MUST obey or be demonized, dehumanized and viciously attacked. The ideas are never attacked with better ideas.

It's not hard to understand why Trump is now your president and why on the state level, you're non-existent. Normal people are voting against your vitriol, bigotry and hate.

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bronco67

Dumbing-Clueless Effect

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TheSquealer

Left = You're a hateful racist and a Nazi
Also Left = You're the intolerant one

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bronco67

Wow. You're talking about yourself.

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TheSquealer

I miss the days when those on the left actually burned the calories to come up with an argument and to make an actual point which could be debated. The Left used to have a position on issues. That's no longer true.

I'm a dick. Sure, i get that... but look at every left leaning poster on this forum. Nothing but hate, bigotry and intolerance topped off with a nice pompous superiority and self righteousness. What does Bladeliar do? Everything humanly possible to disrupt, deflect, shout down, attack etc etc etc. All because he can't argue a point. That is the Left of 2018. Immature. Hateful. Acting out like little kids.

You guys just call people "alt right", "racist" and "nazi" and call it good. You give each other bro high 5's and a slap on each others ass and puff your chest out without ever having to say anything meaningful or make a point. It's the new intellectual laziness of the Left in the USA. It's not your fault. You have a media which chases you around for ad views as they die, turning every single news item into an emotional trigger for clicks. The news used to be just the facts. Watch CNN today and its just opinion driven emotion 24/7. Thats a far cry from where they started.

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Bladewire

Better a smartass truthteller than a dumbass liar

Acepimp

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CarlosTheGaucho

Keep projecting, after all, that's the only way to be always right.

Btw. the monopoly on "truth" is another thing that your team lost, that's why there's so much labeling and attempts at character assassination anytime there's an inconvenient truth that can't be refuted with actual arguments and that could get in the way of your partisan agenda.

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beerptrol

The alt right cult love to project onto others and claim they are the victim

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nico-t

holy shit do you people bend reality.... first you steal the funny insults thrown at you, because you're always bitter and hateful and don't have one funny bone in your bodies.. and now you're actually warping reality, saying things that we have being saying to YOU for the past 2 years!

You are victims of some extremely effective propaganda, making you incredibly stupid, gullible, oblivious and exempt of any sense of reality... this is crazy

TampaToker

Nice try spinning the numbers you for for msm? Neither candidate got 66 million votes.
There are 231,556,622 eligible voters in the United States 48.9% didn't vote at all.
The remaining voted 48.5% voted for Clinton 46.4% voted for Trump.
Counting minors and people who cant vote to fluff your numbers shows what you are about.

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TheSquealer

The story is always the same... "if you don't see everything EXACTLY as I do, then its because your dumb, brainwashed... a nazi, a racist etc and if "your team" won, its because you cheated or it was somehow unfair". They shout you down and call you names. Racist. Nazi. etc. The very definition of bullying. Then they have the gall to lecture you on bullying and they bully anyone who they don't agree with.

I know I am Conservative. I don't spend my days arguing that anyone who is Liberal is just stupid and brainwashed. That's just idiotic and lazy. But what is really weirding me out right now is that though I can understand the difference in viewpoints, its hard to understand how an entire political party has gotten to the point that they think they need no other plan other than "Resist Trump" and STILL have absolutely no clue what people voted for to begin with and what is important to voters. Jobs. Immigration. Economy. Trade. Taxes. Instead they wake up everyday talking about Russia and to American voters, it doesn't even register on the list of important issues. Russia obviously did their part to interfere in the election. There STILL is zero evidence that Trump or his campaign had anything to do with anything. Voters who will decide what happens to Democrats in the mid terms will still be looking at jobs, taxes, the economy, trade and immigration reform... and Democrats will have ZERO to show for it.

Next will be Bladeliar against posting weird youtube videos of some guy and his dick and calling people russian alt right hate nic, racist troll to shut down any form of actual discussion.

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Bladewire

You're a fucking idiot

You're a stupid liar

He referenced half of U.S. CITIZENS, not half of registered voters. You bringing up registered voters has absolutely nothing to do with what him and I were talking about.


You're a fucking idiot & stupid fucking liar