HTTPS with Traffic Trades? - GoFuckYourself.com

His Infernal Majesty · 07-25-2018, 12:07 AM

As people switch their sites over to HTTPS their referral traffic is no longer tracked in trading scripts or analytics.

I also switched a site over and my trades dropped to zero.

Is there a fix to this?

Paul&John · 07-25-2018, 01:39 AM

Quote:

A little more details:
https://moz.com/blog/meta-referrer-tag

Klen · 07-25-2018, 04:24 AM

I dont have such problem, everything is same as before . Maybe you using bad trading script ?

BigFurry · 07-25-2018, 04:56 AM

This "no referrer problem" only happens if you send from HTTPS to HTTP. For HTTPS->HTTPS the referrers show without adding the meta tag mentioned above.

Also, if a trading script tracks using a parameter in the URL rather than the referring URL, it is not affected of course.

doeser · 07-28-2018, 04:13 AM

My pages are all https now.

So what happened is this:
-my old atx (arrowscripts) does not count incoming referrer from https pages, cookie is not set properly
-most other pages don't count my sent hits anymore from https

could not solve it with this meta tags, guess atx is finally done, and the small trading I did with others as well.

Any solutions? Decode atx is one, I'm sure http is hardcoded in there.

Qbert · 07-28-2018, 11:36 AM

The problem with traffic trading scripts that many that track by referrer see

Code:

https://your-domain.com

as a different site than

Code:

http://your-domain.com

The coding changes would need to occur in the script at the incoming end, in addition to adding the Meta code to the sending https page. Since your trade partners are likely using a variety of different tracking scripts, many of them no longer updated, this simply isn't going to happen for the most part.

I've been looking for a solution for over a year with zero success.

Smart Fred · 07-28-2018, 09:57 PM

Did you ask people you trade with to change your URL with https ?

If no even Google Analytics will count their traffic as Direct.

For sure, trading script overaged such as ATX can't manage it.

Qbert · 07-29-2018, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smart Fred

Did you ask people you trade with to change your URL with https ?

I tried contacting trade partners, many no longer respond to the email listed.

Many of my trades have been in place for years, so email may have changed, or they're running on auto-pilot.

Bladewire · 07-30-2018, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFurry

This "no referrer problem" only happens if you send from HTTPS to HTTP. For HTTPS->HTTPS the referrers show without adding the meta tag mentioned above.

Also, if a trading script tracks using a parameter in the URL rather than the referring URL, it is not affected of course.

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Holy Damage · 07-30-2018, 04:33 AM

I dont have any issue using both metas tags below

<meta name="referrer" content="unsafe-url">
or
<meta name="referrer" content="origin">

BUT, If your traders are still using ATX/ATC or any variable of this script... even with this metatags, them cant see your hits
about contacting your traders to change your URL to https.. that wont fix at all

jscott · 07-30-2018, 05:40 PM

Ok so, can someone let me know which meta lines need to add to our sites (on https) to make sure all other trading sites count traffic from our sites?

Holy Damage · 07-31-2018, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

Ok so, can someone let me know which meta lines need to add to our sites (on https) to make sure all other trading sites count traffic from our sites?

venus · 07-31-2018, 11:38 AM

there should be no difference if https is setup correctly, does not matter what the other person is using, make sure if your using a script that you change it all to https in the admin area and or make sure in either apache or httaccess your telling all traffic to use https even if its going to http

Quote:

Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

As people switch their sites over to HTTPS their referral traffic is no longer tracked in trading scripts or analytics.

I also switched a site over and my trades dropped to zero.

Is there a fix to this?

His Infernal Majesty · 12-31-2019, 10:31 AM

I can't seem to figure this out and have lost all my trades since I got around to switching to https.

I've tried:
<meta name="referrer" content="unsafe-url">
<meta name="referrer" content="origin">
<meta name="referrer" content="always">

The main trade is also going https to https which I thought should work without the meta tag. That site is using te3.

His Infernal Majesty · 12-31-2019, 10:42 AM

Also, wanted to add that I was on cloudflare https and thought that was blocking something, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

venus · 12-31-2019, 10:53 AM

whats your site

Quote:

Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty

I can't seem to figure this out and have lost all my trades since I got around to switching to https.

I've tried:
<meta name="referrer" content="unsafe-url">
<meta name="referrer" content="origin">
<meta name="referrer" content="always">

The main trade is also going https to https which I thought should work without the meta tag. That site is using te3.

His Infernal Majesty · 12-31-2019, 10:57 AM

venus · 12-31-2019, 11:48 AM

since your site is working fine, and http is being directed to https without issues, you may want to look elsewhere for the problem. it cant be the https thats a problem if its working right

His Infernal Majesty · 12-31-2019, 11:49 AM

Both sites I am having the main problems with seem to be using Trade Expert 3.

Everything was working fine until I switched to https.

Holy Damage · 12-31-2019, 05:38 PM

Ask for support on TE forum, The only issues I have are with traders using ATX and ATC.... I have couple sites with TE, all them are working normally with TE script + meta tag

His Infernal Majesty · 12-31-2019, 06:00 PM

Are the urls that you trade with https in the script? I think that is most likely what is happening it is seeing https:// as a different URL than http://

RyuLion · 12-31-2019, 08:27 PM

Oh wow great info!

PornDiscounts-V · 12-31-2019, 11:57 PM

This also goes for referrer tracking on sponsors that still use http when you have https when it comes to seeing where your hits are coming from in their stats.

07-25-2018, 12:07 AM	#1
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	HTTPS with Traffic Trades? As people switch their sites over to HTTPS their referral traffic is no longer tracked in trading scripts or analytics. I also switched a site over and my trades dropped to zero. Is there a fix to this?

07-28-2018, 11:36 AM	#6
Qbert Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 813	The problem with traffic trading scripts that many that track by referrer see Code: https://your-domain.com as a different site than Code: http://your-domain.com The coding changes would need to occur in the script at the incoming end, in addition to adding the Meta code to the sending https page. Since your trade partners are likely using a variety of different tracking scripts, many of them no longer updated, this simply isn't going to happen for the most part. I've been looking for a solution for over a year with zero success.

07-28-2018, 09:57 PM	#7
Smart Fred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: France Posts: 308	Did you ask people you trade with to change your URL with https ? If no even Google Analytics will count their traffic as Direct. For sure, trading script overaged such as ATX can't manage it. __________________ Stop doing what you like and start doing what brings you money!

12-31-2019, 10:57 AM	#17
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	Nips

12-31-2019, 11:48 AM	#18
venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	since your site is working fine, and http is being directed to https without issues, you may want to look elsewhere for the problem. it cant be the https thats a problem if its working right __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

07-25-2018, 04:24 AM	#3
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I dont have such problem, everything is same as before . Maybe you using bad trading script ?

07-25-2018, 04:56 AM	#4
BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,553	This "no referrer problem" only happens if you send from HTTPS to HTTP. For HTTPS->HTTPS the referrers show without adding the meta tag mentioned above. Also, if a trading script tracks using a parameter in the URL rather than the referring URL, it is not affected of course.

07-28-2018, 04:13 AM	#5
doeser Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: swiss alps Posts: 205	My pages are all https now. So what happened is this: -my old atx (arrowscripts) does not count incoming referrer from https pages, cookie is not set properly -most other pages don't count my sent hits anymore from https could not solve it with this meta tags, guess atx is finally done, and the small trading I did with others as well. Any solutions? Decode atx is one, I'm sure http is hardcoded in there.

07-30-2018, 04:33 AM	#10
Holy Damage Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Between the legs Posts: 990	I dont have any issue using both metas tags below <meta name="referrer" content="unsafe-url"> or <meta name="referrer" content="origin"> BUT, If your traders are still using ATX/ATC or any variable of this script... even with this metatags, them cant see your hits about contacting your traders to change your URL to https.. that wont fix at all

07-30-2018, 05:40 PM	#11
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Ok so, can someone let me know which meta lines need to add to our sites (on https) to make sure all other trading sites count traffic from our sites?

12-31-2019, 10:31 AM	#14
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	I can't seem to figure this out and have lost all my trades since I got around to switching to https. I've tried: <meta name="referrer" content="unsafe-url"> <meta name="referrer" content="origin"> <meta name="referrer" content="always"> The main trade is also going https to https which I thought should work without the meta tag. That site is using te3.

12-31-2019, 10:42 AM	#15
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	Also, wanted to add that I was on cloudflare https and thought that was blocking something, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

12-31-2019, 11:49 AM	#19
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	Both sites I am having the main problems with seem to be using Trade Expert 3. Everything was working fine until I switched to https.

12-31-2019, 05:38 PM	#20
Holy Damage Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Between the legs Posts: 990	Ask for support on TE forum, The only issues I have are with traders using ATX and ATC.... I have couple sites with TE, all them are working normally with TE script + meta tag

12-31-2019, 06:00 PM	#21
His Infernal Majesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 469	Are the urls that you trade with https in the script? I think that is most likely what is happening it is seeing https:// as a different URL than http://

12-31-2019, 08:27 PM	#22
RyuLion ClubDomCash.com Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 32,173	Oh wow great info! __________________ Adult Biz Consultant A tech head since 1995

12-31-2019, 11:57 PM	#23
PornDiscounts-V Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 5,740	This also goes for referrer tracking on sponsors that still use http when you have https when it comes to seeing where your hits are coming from in their stats. __________________ Blog Posts - Contextual Links - Hardlinks on 600+ Blog Network * Handwritten * 180 C Class IPs * Permanent! * Many Niches! * Bulk Discounts! GFYPosts /at/ J2Media.net