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Old 08-21-2018, 07:18 PM   #1
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Should ICE have the right to DEPORT US Citizens?

If you're a citizen, does ICE get to deport you? Apparently so, according to this research report. Troubling?
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:21 PM   #2
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ICE is going some evil shit lately. They arrested a guy while he was driving his U.S. citizen wife on her way to give birth.

They arrested another father at his U. S. citizen daughter's school as he was picking her up.

If they go so far as deporting U. S. citizens I'll say it's time to abolish ICE because they're power hungry.
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"The 46-year-old was born in Panama, but his parents moved to New York in the 1950s, and his father eventually became a U.S. citizen."

"Jaen came to New York in 1988 on a visa and made a life for himself in the U.S.,"

"Technically speaking, Jaen's biological father was a man his mother had an affair with, according to his birth certificate. But his mother and her husband stayed together, and since his siblings were all American citizens, Jaen assumed he was as well,

The devil is in the details.. He technically wasn't a citizen.. He "assumed" he was... Yet he came here on a visa..
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It's turning into a police state.

And I think these people who work for ICE probably enjoy their job just a little too much. They must be mental defects, like prison guards and to some degree, cops.
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It's turning into a police state.

And I think these people who work for ICE probably enjoy they'rw job just a little too much. They must be mental defects, like prison guards and to some degree, cops.
Ice and Trump supporters would make happy Nazis..
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And I think these people who work for ICE probably enjoy their job just a little too much. They must be mental defects, like prison guards and to some degree, cops.
ahhh they are cleaning up people off the grid. how much time did he have to clear this up??? i bet he calls family in panama if you are 45ish and have no social security card.... not rocket science
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ICE gets a lot of flack, especially today. But, of all the bad shit you hear about ICE, there is a lot of shit you don't hear. Just like cops, most ICE agents are good people hired to do very serious shit. And by the time you hear stories about them, they get twisted and regurgitated to fit whatever the news source's agenda is.

You have to understand, these people take orders and do what they are told to do.

Its the mother fucker who is given the orders that is the problem, not ICE.

For every ICE agent that does a bad thing, there are 1000 other foaming at the mouth to raid businesses and go after the real problem.
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It's turning into a police state.

And I think these people who work for ICE probably enjoy their job just a little too much. They must be mental defects, like prison guards and to some degree, cops.
Police state yes, we are headed there. But not all ICE agents are bad.
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ICE is going some evil shit lately. They arrested a guy while he was driving his U.S. citizen wife on her way to give birth.

They arrested another father at his U. S. citizen daughter's school as he was picking her up.

If they go so far as deporting U. S. citizens I'll say it's time to abolish ICE because they're power hungry.
The guy driving his pregnant wife was wanted for murder you idiot.
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Ice and Trump supporters would make happy Nazis..
My buddy is a ICE agent. Hes a great fucking guy and he is not at all a racist or a nazi.

He had to pull down his facebook page becuase he was getting death threats from ICE protestors.

I brought up my opinions on where the real problem of illegal immigration is coming from and he whole heartedly agreed with me that businesses and people who hire illegals are the real problem. They know places like would like to go, but are not instructed to do so.

When all this was ramping up, they were only being instructed to go after the real bad guys, the violent and the criminal. Then Trump stated detaining people at the border and separating children. My buddy wasn't happy with it, and I think a lot of the people that were involved with it, were very uneasy and it brought them no pleasure of any kind.
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You are correct
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ICE is going some evil shit lately. They arrested a guy while he was driving his U.S. citizen wife on her way to give birth.
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The guy was WANTED FOR MURDER.

The Democrats are in favor of illegal alien criminals. How progressive
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Ice and Trump supporters would make happy Nazis..
^^ Shit like this is why Trump won. The Nazis were a left-wing socialist party. They took their playbook from the racist American Democrats, fact.

Crockett supports the party of racism, communism, and Nazi-ism

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The Democrats are in favor of illegal alien criminals. How progressive
No they are not. But you ARE for illegal aliens and criminals in the white house.
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No they are not. But you ARE for illegal aliens and criminals in the white house.
What do you mean "No they are not"?? They clearly are, since it's the only way they can get voters

And there are no illegal aliens or criminals in the White House. Obama and the Clintons are gone from there.

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My buddy is a ICE agent. Hes a great fucking guy and he is not at all a racist or a nazi.

He had to pull down his facebook page becuase he was getting death threats from ICE protestors.

I brought up my opinions on where the real problem of illegal immigration is coming from and he whole heartedly agreed with me that businesses and people who hire illegals are the real problem. They know places like would like to go, but are not instructed to do so.

When all this was ramping up, they were only being instructed to go after the real bad guys, the violent and the criminal. Then Trump stated detaining people at the border and separating children. My buddy wasn't happy with it, and I think a lot of the people that were involved with it, were very uneasy and it brought them no pleasure of any kind.
The problem is ICE seems to attract the racist bad cops. Not that all of them are bad, but ICe's job was never to deport illegals it was counter terrorism...
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No they are not. But you ARE for illegal aliens and criminals in the white house.
Look, I know you're not for illegals and you're not one of these leftist progressive calling for the abolishment of ICE, but you can't deny there are quite a few Dems calling for the end of ICE and running many large sanctuary cities.
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My buddy is a ICE agent. Hes a great fucking guy and he is not at all a racist or a nazi.

He had to pull down his facebook page becuase he was getting death threats from ICE protestors.

I brought up my opinions on where the real problem of illegal immigration is coming from and he whole heartedly agreed with me that businesses and people who hire illegals are the real problem. They know places like would like to go, but are not instructed to do so.

When all this was ramping up, they were only being instructed to go after the real bad guys, the violent and the criminal. Then Trump stated detaining people at the border and separating children. My buddy wasn't happy with it, and I think a lot of the people that were involved with it, were very uneasy and it brought them no pleasure of any kind.
Don't forget these illegals are stealing people's identities and working under them. E-verify won't do much against that. I read there are millions (according to the IRS). They need to go as well.
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The dispositive law in the case mentioned in the link is the long standing LEGAL DOCTRINE that kids born in a marriage are presumed to be the biological children of the father... unless proven otherwise
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