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Smart Fred · 08-31-2018, 10:38 AM

I've just seen a report on TV about 8K TV coming.

Is anybody shooting porn in 8K or expect to shoot in 8K ?

ghjghj · 08-31-2018, 10:45 AM

Sounds dangerous

cordoba · 08-31-2018, 11:10 AM

I think the first studios to be shooting 8K will be VR porn. Not sure 8K makes much sense for anything else. But in VR the resolution is halved (for each eye), so you need to film in 8K to make effectively 4K VR porn for the viewer. Even 16K (effectively 8K for each eye) would make sense in VR (when VR headsets have high enough resolution) because the screen is so close to the viewer and any pixellation creates a stage door effect.

VR Bangers are already releasing 6K VR porn (so really 3K). I don't know if they are actually filming in 8K and then releasing it in 6K for bandwidth, file size reasons, and that no headsets currently have better resolution than 6K (2 x 3K).

https://vrbangers.com/

ilnjscb · 08-31-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba

I think the first studios to be shooting 8K will be VR porn. Not sure 8K makes much sense for anything else. But in VR the resolution is halved (for each eye), so you need to film in 8K to make effectively 4K VR porn for the viewer. Even 16K (effectively 8K for each eye) would make sense in VR (when VR headsets have high enough resolution) because the screen is so close to the viewer and any pixellation creates a stage door effect.

VR Bangers are already releasing 6K VR porn (so really 3K). I don't know if they are actually filming in 8K and then releasing it in 6K for bandwidth, file size reasons, and that no headsets currently have better resolution than 6K (2 x 3K).

https://vrbangers.com/

What headset has this resolution?

pimpmaster9000 · 08-31-2018, 11:40 AM

"For example, raw 4K footage files like those in the acquisition phase of film production are already huge, averaging about 6000 GB for 90 minutes. However, in 8K, files are nearly three times that size."

works out to 200gb/min for 8K?

dyna mo · 08-31-2018, 11:43 AM

I'm waiting for 1billionk.

Busty2 · 08-31-2018, 11:44 AM

I have been eyeing the
Red Digital Cinema DSMC2 BRAIN 35.4MP Carbon Fiber Camera with MONSTRO 8K VV Sensor @ around $60,000 plus lens, plus adaptor, plus power supply, plus.plus.plus. Looking at $100,000 but what a neat camera !!!

NatalieK · 08-31-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb

What headset has this resolution?

there´s a kickstarter project for an 8k VR headset, seems the 6k cameras are $75,000 eyeball drones seen here...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/photog...e-6k-vr-drone/

here´s the kickstarter project for the 8k VR headset, and damn, it looks sweet!...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-8k-vr-headset

magneto664 · 08-31-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Smart Fred

I've just seen a report on TV about 8K TV coming.

Is anybody shooting porn in 8K or expect to shoot in 8K ?

I have six 4K channels in my TV and all are live sports. I repeat - SIX.
So.. when this 8K tv coming? 2030? 2034?

bronco67 · 08-31-2018, 08:40 PM

The computer speeds are not progressing fast enough to keep up with 8K production.

Mr Pheer · 08-31-2018, 09:53 PM

I dont see any reason for 8k. You cant even truly see 4k unless it is side by side with 1080p.

NatalieK · 09-01-2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

The computer speeds are not progressing fast enough to keep up with 8K production.

rich get richer, poor poorer, & the divide becomes more extensive

CurrentlySober · 09-01-2018, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I dont see any reason for 8k. You cant even truly see 4k unless it is side by side with 1080p.

What he said

I got a promotional email from Samsung the other day, urging me to check out their new 8K TV... Pointless. Its difficult enough to find any 4K content as it is these days for my 4K TV...

celandina · 09-01-2018, 08:41 AM

Shooting 8 K ( even 4 K BTW) is just a geeky tech dev. Human eye sees barely 2 K ( less then 600 megapixels).... it would be akin to make a Chevy able to do 500 miles per hour. Nice but useless in daily life.

candyflip · 09-02-2018, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I dont see any reason for 8k. You cant even truly see 4k unless it is side by side with 1080p.

You’ve got 8 times as much resolution so you can crop, pan, zoom all without losing any quality when delivering in a lower resolution. Its about having more to work with in post, not about delivering the highest resolution product.

candyflip · 09-02-2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

"For example, raw 4K footage files like those in the acquisition phase of film production are already huge, averaging about 6000 GB for 90 minutes. However, in 8K, files are nearly three times that size."

works out to 200gb/min for 8K?

Those numbers are wrong. I shoot 4.6k raw and it’s no where near 6tb for 90 minutes. 1 maybe 2, tops.

NatalieK · 09-02-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

Shooting 8 K ( even 4 K BTW) is just a geeky tech dev. Human eye sees barely 2 K ( less then 600 megapixels).... it would be akin to make a Chevy able to do 500 miles per hour. Nice but useless in daily life.

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"The Resolution Of The Human Eye Is 576 Megapixels. SHARE. The average human retina has five million cone receptors on it. Since the cones are responsible for colour vision, you might suppose that this equates to a five megapixel equivilant for the human eye."

1080p - 1920 x 1080 (2 megapixels) 4K - 3840 x 2160 (8.2 megapixels) 8K - 7680 x 4320 (33 megapixels) 16K - 15,360 x 8640 (132 megapixels)

We can view 32k...

8k cameras have been around for years, here´s 18k

So You Think 4K and 8K Look Good? Behold This 18K Camera Platform - Studio Daily

what´s anyone think about this?...

CjTheFish · 09-02-2018, 06:53 PM

Is it true that healthy human eyes don't even actually see real life in 4k?

VRPdommy · 09-02-2018, 08:24 PM

I have no studio.
If I were investing in the next standard to meet.
It would be 4K VR (2x2k)
To do anything higher than that requires to much investment and production time. And not everyone can stream it so easily.
4K vr at 180 degree field of view, (all you really need for porn)

But if you want to have a jump on future content, record in 8k (2x4k) at 360 FOV and transcode downward for now.

But you will find a major step difference in costs between the 2.

It comes down to how much do you want to spend now and how many you want to be able to serve. Not many can handle the cpu needed for 8k vr now and have the bandwidth to support that.

You payz your money and takez your choice.

PiVR will have a 4k and 8k HMD out there next year commercially. StarVR 'ONE' is likely to be right behind them. HTC has their VIVE PRO, the current production high end.
But i would make your productions for the masses. Where most of the buyers of content will be serving. 2x2k

celandina · 09-03-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

1080p - 1920 x 1080 (2 megapixels) 4K - 3840 x 2160 (8.2 megapixels) 8K - 7680 x 4320 (33 megapixels) 16K - 15,360 x 8640 (132 megapixels)

We can view 32k...

8k cameras have been around for years, here´s 18k

So You Think 4K and 8K Look Good? Behold This 18K Camera Platform - Studio Daily

what´s anyone think about this?...

My view " Content is King" so shooting a good content in HD ( 2 K) is a lot better for business then 32 K shooting shit...

MaDalton · 09-03-2018, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

My view " Content is King" so shooting a good content in HD ( 2 K) is a lot better for business then 32 K shooting shit...

Paul Markham said the same about SD/HD when HD came out.

From a licensing point of view SD is worth zero by now while even 10 year old HD content still makes sales

just my

NatalieK · 09-04-2018, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

My view " Content is King" so shooting a good content in HD ( 2 K) is a lot better for business then 32 K shooting shit...

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Originally Posted by StefanG

Paul Markham said the same about SD/HD when HD came out.

From a licensing point of view SD is worth zero by now while even 10 year old HD content still makes sales

just my

absolutely this...

Wishing I´d used HD well before I did, I´ve tonnes of gangbang and dogging footage that could make 1000s if hd, but as sd, it´s not worth a penny.

Celandina, yes, while right shooting great footage in quality is better than shit in high quality, nothing better than shooting high quality footage in high quality film

celandina · 09-05-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

Paul Markham said the same about SD/HD when HD came out.

From a licensing point of view SD is worth zero by now while even 10 year old HD content still makes sales

just my

You have missed my point. I have a full vault of DigiBetas, like most of us "veterans" and a move to a human eye resolution at 2 K was the right move. Going many Ks over that does not make sense because we will NOT be projecting on IMAX screens any time soon. The value ,as some claim, that you can " zoom in" in the post, does not hold water for me since to maintain focus at this respolution is almost impossible. As I have said it is as building a Chevy able to go 500 miles per hour. I am not against progress but against a frivolity.

And BTW , recently I had some of my old digibetas "crunched up" to HD and they are selling just fine

I may do it with most of my old movies

celandina · 09-05-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

absolutely this...

Wishing I´d used HD well before I did, I´ve tonnes of gangbang and dogging footage that could make 1000s if hd, but as sd, it´s not worth a penny.

Celandina, yes, while right shooting great footage in quality is better than shit in high quality, nothing better than shooting high quality footage in high quality film

I agree with your last statement ( also read my answer to Stefan above).... High quality has its limits, that being a human eye resolution, which is at best 2K ...so going 4k ( 8 K 16 K or even 32 K) for a video which is then then crunched down to Youtube quality makes as much sense as buying a supertanker to transport some fish to the market. The cost of it vs the results makes no sense. That is all what my point is.

....and BTW if you can make 1000s with your SD stuff, have it crunched up to HD and make your 1000s. I did it many times over...

bronco67 · 09-05-2018, 12:53 PM

A lot of people don't realize that you don't see the difference in these double resolution jumps while viewing on a small screen. By small, I mean anything under 65 inches.

I have a 4k 65 inch screen and I can barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4k...although I have viewed 4K on a 120 inch screen and that's where it pays off. The detail was amazing on that big screen.

So unless people start having movie theater size screens in their homes, there's not much point to 8K. It's seriously diminishing returns vs the amount of headache which will be involved in producing and storing --- not to mention the bandwidth needed to stream it.

Also, any quality gain from these ultra resolutions can be canceled out by quality loss from compression algorithms.

I work in Cg graphics daily and when I rent a streaming movie I usually go with the 720p option. 1080p doesn't look that much better to me.

and 4K? Who cares?

8K? Fuck you. You can keep it.

By the way, the only place I've noticed resolutions really matter is in VR porn. The higher res and frame rate, the better and that's because it's right in your face and any pixelation ruins the experience.

celandina · 09-06-2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

A lot of people don't realize that you don't see the difference in these double resolution jumps while viewing on a small screen. By small, I mean anything under 65 inches.

I have a 4k 65 inch screen and I can barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4k...although I have viewed 4K on a 120 inch screen and that's where it pays off. The detail was amazing on that big screen.

So unless people start having movie theater size screens in their homes, there's not much point to 8K. It's seriously diminishing returns vs the amount of headache which will be involved in producing and storing --- not to mention the bandwidth needed to stream it.

Also, any quality gain from these ultra resolutions can be canceled out by quality loss from compression algorithms.

I work in Cg graphics daily and when I rent a streaming movie I usually go with the 720p option. 1080p doesn't look that much better to me.

and 4K? Who cares?

8K? Fuck you. You can keep it.

By the way, the only place I've noticed resolutions really matter is in VR porn. The higher res and frame rate, the better and that's because it's right in your face and any pixelation ruins the experience.

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VRPdommy · 09-07-2018, 08:40 AM

https://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ch-for-vr.html

The future is ?

In VR,
8K will only present the user with about 1.5K - 2K depending on the field of view with the HMD.
Unless you use only 180 degree video, then you can double that.

So 4K VR is do-able on the cheap and if done in a 180 format, it's price/yield ratio is pretty fair. But it is the fastest growing segment right now.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	A lot of people don't realize that you don't see the difference in these double resolution jumps while viewing on a small screen. By small, I mean anything under 65 inches. I have a 4k 65 inch screen and I can barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4k...although I have viewed 4K on a 120 inch screen and that's where it pays off. The detail was amazing on that big screen. So unless people start having movie theater size screens in their homes, there's not much point to 8K. It's seriously diminishing returns vs the amount of headache which will be involved in producing and storing --- not to mention the bandwidth needed to stream it. Also, any quality gain from these ultra resolutions can be canceled out by quality loss from compression algorithms. I work in Cg graphics daily and when I rent a streaming movie I usually go with the 720p option. 1080p doesn't look that much better to me. and 4K? Who cares? 8K? Fuck you. You can keep it. By the way, the only place I've noticed resolutions really matter is in VR porn. The higher res and frame rate, the better and that's because it's right in your face and any pixelation ruins the experience. __________________

08-31-2018, 10:45 AM	#2
ghjghj So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,770	Sounds dangerous

08-31-2018, 11:10 AM	#3
cordoba Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,173	I think the first studios to be shooting 8K will be VR porn. Not sure 8K makes much sense for anything else. But in VR the resolution is halved (for each eye), so you need to film in 8K to make effectively 4K VR porn for the viewer. Even 16K (effectively 8K for each eye) would make sense in VR (when VR headsets have high enough resolution) because the screen is so close to the viewer and any pixellation creates a stage door effect. VR Bangers are already releasing 6K VR porn (so really 3K). I don't know if they are actually filming in 8K and then releasing it in 6K for bandwidth, file size reasons, and that no headsets currently have better resolution than 6K (2 x 3K). https://vrbangers.com/

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,905	I'm waiting for 1billionk.

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Busty2 Member since 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Off the Amalfi coast Posts: 7,202	I have been eyeing the Red Digital Cinema DSMC2 BRAIN 35.4MP Carbon Fiber Camera with MONSTRO 8K VV Sensor @ around $60,000 plus lens, plus adaptor, plus power supply, plus.plus.plus. Looking at $100,000 but what a neat camera !!!

08-31-2018, 09:53 PM	#11
Mr Pheer Living inside your head. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 20,425	I dont see any reason for 8k. You cant even truly see 4k unless it is side by side with 1080p.

09-01-2018, 08:41 AM	#14
celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,343	Shooting 8 K ( even 4 K BTW) is just a geeky tech dev. Human eye sees barely 2 K ( less then 600 megapixels).... it would be akin to make a Chevy able to do 500 miles per hour. Nice but useless in daily life.

09-02-2018, 08:24 PM	#19
VRPdommy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 10,683	I have no studio. If I were investing in the next standard to meet. It would be 4K VR (2x2k) To do anything higher than that requires to much investment and production time. And not everyone can stream it so easily. 4K vr at 180 degree field of view, (all you really need for porn) But if you want to have a jump on future content, record in 8k (2x4k) at 360 FOV and transcode downward for now. But you will find a major step difference in costs between the 2. It comes down to how much do you want to spend now and how many you want to be able to serve. Not many can handle the cpu needed for 8k vr now and have the bandwidth to support that. You payz your money and takez your choice. PiVR will have a 4k and 8k HMD out there next year commercially. StarVR 'ONE' is likely to be right behind them. HTC has their VIVE PRO, the current production high end. But i would make your productions for the masses. Where most of the buyers of content will be serving. 2x2k

09-07-2018, 08:40 AM	#27
VRPdommy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 10,683	https://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ch-for-vr.html The future is ? In VR, 8K will only present the user with about 1.5K - 2K depending on the field of view with the HMD. Unless you use only 180 degree video, then you can double that. So 4K VR is do-able on the cheap and if done in a 180 format, it's price/yield ratio is pretty fair. But it is the fastest growing segment right now.