Trump Administration May Require Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially - GoFuckYourself.com

OneHungLo · 09-09-2018, 08:12 PM

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A long-anticipated plan to enforce provisions in the nation’s immigration laws that require prospective immigrants to be able to support themselves financially—so-called public-charge provisions—might be introduced by the Trump administration this month.

The proposed regulations, defining the phrase “public charge” under Section 212(a)(4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, may be published this fall, and possibly as early as this month, according to a person close to the rulemaking process of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) who requested anonymity.

Left-wing advocacy organizations have attacked any attempt to formally define “public charge” as being cruel and xenophobic, and aimed at drastically curtailing the flow of immigrants to the United States. But the lengths to which the new regulation will go remain to be seen.

Francis Cissna, director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), an agency within DHS, discussed a possible draft of the regulation during an Aug. 15 event at the National Press Club in Washington, hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

“The goal is not to reduce immigration or, in some diabolical fashion, shut the door on people, family-based immigration, or anything like that,” Cissna said. “The goal is simply to enforce a ground of inadmissibility to this country that’s been on the books for about 100–well, more than 100 years.”

Cissna said the public-charge section in the law, a provision that has “hardly ever been enforced,” states that “an alien who in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the secretary of Homeland Security at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status—getting a green card—is likely at any time to become a public charge is inadmissible.”

The phrase “likely to become a public charge” has “never been, as far as I know” interpreted in any regulation, he said. There was an attempt in the 1990s to define the expression, but it was dropped.

Cissna said the administration wants to “issue proper regulations open to full public comment, to, at long last, interpret what that means.”

A document purporting to be a copy of the draft regulation was published online by The Washington Post. It states:

“Aliens who are seeking adjustment of status or an immigrant visa, or who are applicants for admission, must establish that they are not likely at any time to become a public charge. Moreover, DHS will require aliens seeking an extension of stay or change of status demonstrate that they are not using or receiving, nor likely to use or receive, public benefits.”

The public-charge principle has been part of the American experience for centuries.

As James R. Edwards Jr. wrote in a 2001 paper for the Center for Immigration Studies, “Public-charge doctrine has been part of American immigration law since colonial days.”

“The English colony of Massachusetts enacted the earliest American public-charge laws in 1645. The arrival in the colonies of undesirables spurred other colonies to enact similar laws.

“By the end of the seventeenth century, American colonists were especially reluctant to extend a welcome to impoverished foreigners and the ‘rogues and vagabonds’ that England had so graciously decided she could spare. Many colonies protected themselves against public charges through such measures as mandatory reporting of ship passengers, immigrant screening and exclusion upon arrival of designated ‘undesirables,’ and requiring bonds for potential public charges,” he wrote.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...s_2655919.html

DBS.US · 09-09-2018, 08:14 PM

Lets try: Support Themselves Financially and a three year code of conduct probation.

pimpmaster9000 · 09-09-2018, 08:19 PM

Immigrants are a red herring...carry on now...

BaldBastard · 09-09-2018, 08:28 PM

Problem with that is when you look at immigrants and especially their children, how much money the parents had or what they do, is no indication at all as to how those children will succeed.

I know a trust fund kid like Trump would have difficulty grasping that as he sits on his golden toilet for his morning shit buts its so.

If you look at the USA right now the most probmatic immigrants seem to be those from eastern block countries and Russia, which are going out of there way to divide America, look at deporting those cunts and having higher requirements and vetting from them like Australia does and then the problems seem to fade as everyone integrates.

DraX · 09-09-2018, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

If you look at the USA right now the most probmatic immigrants seem to be those from eastern block countries and Russia, which are going out of there way to divide America, look at deporting those cunts and having higher requirements and vetting from them like Australia does and then the problems seem to fade as everyone integrates.

Do you have any kind of proof to that claim that Eastern European immigrants in U.S. is causing trouble?

OneHungLo · 09-09-2018, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DraX

Do you have any kind of proof to that claim that Eastern European immigrants in U.S. is causing trouble?

Just about everything he posts here are lies. Trust me, we have no problems with white russian or eastern euros but we do have many problems with brown and muslim immigrants.

Mrbb will be in shortly to tell us how he’d rather have those brown muslims in his country of couse as he posts from one of the whitest countries on the planet.

BaldBastard · 09-09-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Just about everything he posts here are lies. Trust me, we have no problems with white russian or eastern euros but we do have many problems with brown and muslim immigrants.

Mrbb will be in shortly to tell us how he’d rather have those brown muslims in his country of couse as he posts from one of the whitest countries on the planet.

I hate to link to this but..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nsus-2016.html

The latest census figures reveal the Muslim population in Australia has soared to more than 604,000 people.. ( America is basically 12x the Size of Aus ) USA per captia has less than half the Muslim population we do.

> quarter of Australian people (26 per cent) said they were born overseas.

Also realise.. 70% of people live cities, making Australia one of the world’s most urbanised countries

Now I'm not saying that's good but when you look at issues and what the underlaying problems are... Its always the eastern blockers and their offspring causing all the shit.

Deport the Ruskis.. live in harmony.

astronaut x · 09-09-2018, 09:47 PM

meh meh meh

BaldBastard · 09-09-2018, 09:57 PM

nah it's fact, you want a map of racial issues in the world, look at Russian immigration and you soon note where they go issues go.

problem with America is.. you let in too many Russians, same goes with Germany, UK and Israel.

fuckem off back to the potato land.

OneHungLo · 09-09-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

> quarter of Australian people (26 per cent) said they were born overseas.

Overseas..in white European countries.

BaldBastard · 09-09-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Overseas..in white European countries.

Its not 1963 no more you realise???

Sarn · 09-10-2018, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Sarn · 09-10-2018, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

nah it's fact, you want a map of racial issues in the world, look at Russian immigration and you soon note where they go issues go.

problem with America is.. you let in too many Russians, same goes with Germany, UK and Israel.

fuckem off back to the potato land.

Even from Israel lol

I agree need back them to homeland

bronco67 · 09-10-2018, 04:27 AM

and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.

The Trump administration will "determine" that no immigrants entering the country will be able to support themselves financially by some arbitrary measure they pull from their ass.

Sarn · 09-10-2018, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.

The Trump administration will "determine" that no immigrants entering the country will be able to support themselves financially by some arbitrary measure they pull from their ass.

With money will come, other people, not workers. Often from the 3rd world, it will be successful gangsters.

crockett · 09-10-2018, 05:29 AM

Onehunglow is a Russian anchor baby.. deport him

Sarn · 09-10-2018, 06:02 AM

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Onehunglow is a Russian anchor baby.. deport him

If relatives come to America from Russia a long long time ago - need to send too

beerptrol · 09-10-2018, 06:06 AM

Maybe they can get some Russians to financially support them like they do with Chump

pimpmaster9000 · 09-10-2018, 06:39 AM

funny how there were never immigrants before this...oh wait there were

but now they are a problem all of a sudden

no red herring at all

OneHungLo · 09-10-2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Its not 1963 no more you realise???

Are you actually trying to say that AUS is anything other than a lily white country?

OneHungLo · 09-10-2018, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially?

The same way they do in many other countries. You act like this is so difficult. Would you have any problems showing another country proof of funds in a bank or that you own property?

TheSquealer · 09-10-2018, 08:29 AM

Oh look... immigration rules similar to those that any other developed nation has.

BaldBastard · 09-10-2018, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Are you actually trying to say that AUS is anything other than a lily white country?

Per capita we take in nearly three times as many Muslims than America, 1 in 25 is born overseas, the country sending the most immigrant's now is... China which over took UK and NZ last year, and by the end of this year the UK will be over taken by.. India

Lilly white is long gone, think more Turmeric mocha latte

OneHungLo · 09-10-2018, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Per capita we take in nearly three times as many Muslims than America, 1 in 25 is born overseas, the country sending the most immigrant's now is... China which over took UK and NZ last year, and by the end of this year the UK will be over taken by.. India

Lilly white is long gone, think more Turmeric mocha latte

Oh so your muslim population is a whopping 3%?

Dude, as usual, you're lying.

Say it with me...L-I-L-Y W-H-I-T-E

OneHungLo · 09-10-2018, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Oh look... immigration rules similar to those that any other developed nation has.

Pretty much, right lol.

isn't it crazy how these libs are actually against this?

SIK · 09-10-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

and how do they determine who will be able to support themselves financially? I'll tell you how.

If I remember right, back in the day when my father intended to move to Australia (like, 20 y ago or so), they had a rule that you must have something like 20 000 USD or whatever, to make sure you're not instantly asking for welfare (can't remember the numbers exactly, but that sounds about accurate)

that is also a good logic if you ask me, otherwise you're just welcoming moochers and potential criminals

BaldBastard · 09-10-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Oh so your muslim population is a whopping 3%?

Dude, as usual, you're lying.

Say it with me...L-I-L-Y W-H-I-T-E

https://www.finder.com.au/australia-...ion-march-2017

Top 10 countries for Australian migration in March 2017

India
China
Iraq
New Zealand

TheSquealer · 09-10-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

https://www.finder.com.au/australia-...ion-march-2017

Top 10 countries for Australian migration in March 2017

India
China
Iraq
New Zealand

Immigration is not the same as migrant workers on a work visa you dumb turd.

BaldBastard · 09-10-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SIK

If I remember right, back in the day when my father intended to move to Australia (like, 20 y ago or so), they had a rule that you must have something like 20 000 USD or whatever, to make sure you're not instantly asking for welfare (can't remember the numbers exactly, but that sounds about accurate)

that is also a good logic if you ask me, otherwise you're just welcoming moochers and potential criminals

Depends on the Visa you apply for, this year for example they let in 24000 refugees, so no requirements for them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tarian-program

That's on top of immigration of about 250,000 a year

3412.0 - Migration, Australia, 2016-17

Most people come in now by what you call chain migration in the USA, Chinese especially use that a lot.

marlboroack · 09-10-2018, 10:11 AM

What a big fat fucking clown

BaldBastard · 09-10-2018, 10:18 AM

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Immigration is not the same as migrant workers on a work visa you dumb turd.

yes and no, its sort of different here being an island once your in your in sort of thing, the only real exception is student visas. But if you want to add then figure goes through the roof with an additional 600,000 temporary migrants

And none of these stats count New Zealanders, of which there's nearly a million here..me being one.

https://insidestory.org.au/how-many-...lia-each-year/

King Mark · 09-10-2018, 10:25 AM

Regular immigrants, yeah. Refugees, they ain't got time for all that.

Sarn · 09-10-2018, 10:26 AM

let's send all refugees to Australia!

Phoenix · 09-10-2018, 11:32 AM

Don't they have to now?
I know a Korean family here, who were balling in Korea. They sold their house and moved the family here, just in hopes and to put their kids into school.
He was mid level at a large stock firm there, doing well. Now he cuts sushi.
She never had to work, now she is serving food also.
They are paying for themselves in the hope that they can stay.
I want to add they are 100% happy to do this, it is for their kids.

Matt 26z · 09-10-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

but when you look at issues and what the underlaying problems are... Its always the eastern blockers and their offspring causing all the shit.

From what I'm hearing from people in Australia, it's the "boat people" (african muslims) who are the bane of Australia right now. There is a lot of theft.

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Deport the Ruskis.. live in harmony.

Here in the US the only immigrant group that causes problems are the illegal immigrant mexicans. The bar of entry is so low for mexicans that we are importing the type of people that Mexico can't wait to get rid of. Their communities spread like cancer here, destroying everything as their population grows.

Rochard · 09-10-2018, 02:49 PM

Isn't the way it already works for some types of visas?

For a student visa, you have to be enrolled in school. For work visas it's the same. I remember having to verify that someone worked for the company every six months because they were in the US on some visa.

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