News Racism or Not?

[HairyChick]

Racism? My first reaction was that you need to buy something to use the free WiFi. The idea is buy something, compute, buy more, compute. Then I read it again to see if I missed a mention of race. Nope.

If she’s there daily for two years, no one recognized her ? Does she usually buy something and compute or does she just use the WiFi?

And the owner saying “ it’s a safety issue” is total bullshit. Paying customers aren’t dangerous but free WiFi users are? Is a black person using a computer more dangerous than a black person using a computer while drinking coffee or munching a donut?

I’d need to know more to form a solid opinion. At this stage, she sounds like a shnorer, Yiddish for people who take and take and give back very, very little. I don’t see color as a problem here but the safety issue makes me pause.

If Dunkin’ allows the owner to demand a purchase, insist it be posted. FREE WIFI WITH PURCHASE.

Virginia Dunkin' Donuts owner calls police on black customer for using free Wi-Fi without purchase

Video footage of a now-viral interaction between a black customer and a white store manager at a Virginia Dunkin' Donuts has sparked outcry and heated debate online, after franchise owner Christina Cabral called police on patron Tirza Wilbon White for allegedly using the store's Wi-Fi without making a purchase.

"I had just sat down when a woman I had never seen before walked up and asked, 'Are you going to buy coffee?'" White told Yahoo Lifestyle of the Nov. 7 incident, which occurred at one of the Fairfax locations of the coffee and pastry chain. "I told her I planned on buying coffee after I got settled, but not if it were mandated."

According to Yahoo, White then asked the woman, whom the outlet identifies as Cabral, if a white customer would be held to that same standard, prompting Cabral to say that White must make a purchase or leave.

In a series of three videos posted to Facebook on Nov. 8, White shares the conversation she had with Cabral, as well as the subsequent dialogue she had with the male police officer who responded to the scene.

"You're under the Dunkin umbrella, I just looked this up, it is free Wi-Fi in Dunkin Donuts," White begins in the clip that has since been viewed over 32,000 times.

"But as franchisee I have the right to offer you free Internet or not," Cabral said

"Do you have a business card? I'm gonna contact corporate," White responded

"You don't need my business card to do that with," Cabral argues. "I get to make my own rules. … I need to ensure safety to my customers," she continued. "It's nothing against you," she says, citing previous issues with customers. "We're just trying to make our customers feel safe."

In the second and third videos shared to social media, the law enforcement official tells White to leave the store "because she wants you to."

"Am I in trouble if I choose not to leave?" White asks.

"Yeah, if you choose not to leave, I will order you to leave. … I would issue you a summons and then if you don't sign the summons, then I would have to arrest you," he says.

Taken aback, White ultimately leaves the scene, and later voiced her frustrations on Facebook.

"A franchise owner attempted to bully me. She lied about corporate policy, attempted to force me to make a purchase to be in the store because she has a loitering problem. She called the police to force me to leave when I told her she was profiling the gentleman and me. In her mind I was the 'people' who loiter. In reality, I was a customer in her store, until yesterday, and I have been for more than 2 years," she wrote.

"I am still angry, more than 24 hours later, and I want justice for the humiliation I experienced."

Soon after, White reported that two reps for Dunkin' Donuts had personally called her to apologize, as per Yahoo.

Meanwhile, reps for the Massachusetts-headquartered coffee chain Dunkin returned Fox News' request for comment with the following statement:

"We and our franchisees want every customer who walks into a Dunkin' restaurant to be treated with dignity and respect. This did not happen in a situation at a restaurant in Fairfax, Virginia. We have apologized to the customer, on behalf of both the brand and the franchisee who owns and operates this restaurant, but we know that is not enough," a spokesperson said. "Our franchisees are independent businesspeople, who so long as they comply with the law, may set their own policies in regards to certain things like Wi-Fi usage and whether to limit its use to only those who make a purchase," they added. "However, we are focused on helping our franchisees best serve our diverse customer base and are currently exploring how we can improve every aspect of our restaurant operations from store signage, recommended policies, and training for franchisees and their crew members. We are committed to doing better."

Facebook commenters reacted to the news with mixed opinions.

"Really? All of this because you want to seat in her restaurant, taking up a table, not buy a .80 cent cup of coffee and use their wi-fi. I am sorry, but you are in the wrong. Even tho they have 'free' wi-fi, it is common sense, and called being an adult to understand that if you want to seat in a table, use their wi-fi, just buy a cup of coffee. Nothing to do with skin color or race," one said.

"Is there a homeless situation in the area? Purchasing something could be a policy because of loitering," another weighed in.

"As an owner of a business that deals with the general public Cabral should be better at conflict resolution and not be so confrontational. She could have handled this so much better. It would have been better to wait and see if she was a customer or a loiterer and then address it if needed. Smart business sense would be to consider what revenue your business could lose in the long run. How much is wi-fi costing her per customer really, c'mon," one chimed in. "If Cabral's herself believed her intentions were warranted then she wouldn't have lied about her position being Q&A. These white women need to realize there are people having real problems and not waste the time of law enforcement with petty issues."

"If you refuse to purchase in any store or establishment you can be ask[ed] to leave by the police. They are a business. Free is not FREE that is the ladys [sic] interpretation. AND no the law does not [require] police to be posted. That is why the cop backed the franchisee," another offered.






Before the crew yells that I’m making it a race issue or I’m race-baiting or other moronic statements, I’m seriously curious about how others view this. I didn’t make a race issue out of this; it was written that way.

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

I’m race-baiting

[OneHungLo]

Here we go again.

Pam we know you're about to accuse the owner (who you don't even know) of being a racist for enforcing a company policy. It's their business and if they want you to purchase something before using the free wifi they can.

DUNKIN DONUTS: "Our franchisees may set their own policies in regards to certain things like Wi-Fi usage and whether to limit its use to only those who make a purchase"

I had to take a piss last week and I stopped at a KFC and the bathroom was locked. I asked to use it and they said I had to make a purchase. I bought a small soda and used it and left. I didn't make a scene. I wonder if I was black would they have just let me use it without buying something for fear of this stupid shit? Now that's privilege.

I wish just once a company would just come out and say go fuck yourself. Once you start doing that these race card pulling losers will disappear.

[bronco67]

The way free wi fi works is:

Company offers free wi fi to anyone in the premises. Hopefully while enjoying the free wi fi you will also buy something. That's the way it works. It's a smart way to do business. Being an asshole about your wi fi is no way to get and keep customers.

You're allowed to read anything you want in Barnes and Noble. Maybe some people might read there the whole day, but most people will buy the book and take it home. But Barnes and Noble isn't going to call the cops on you because you've been reading an entire book in the store all day. For every one cheapskate, there are 100 other people who buy shit.

For every wi-fi leecher who doesn't purchase anything, there are many others who do -- and they'll also remember you had free wi fi and come back again. And probably buy something again.

OneHungLo, if I wanted to use a bathroom and someone told me I needed to buy something then I'd tell them they just lost a customer. That would be their loss.

[King Mark]

I don't believe any of your stories anymore. You got too much idle time ma'am. Got any other hobbies besides gfy fairytales? Gotta put this energy towards something more productive.

[TFCash]

More and more, I'm thinking that PamWinterReturns is just another fake nick from one of the gfy troll's.

You claim to have such an issue with typing, but fuck your posts are so long I can't even waste the time to read them anymore

[OneHungLo]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Phoenix]

Lol the entitlement is strong in her

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I had to take a piss last week and I stopped at a KFC and the bathroom was locked...

Whenever I go to KFC, I just piss on the floor

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I don't believe any of your stories anymore. You got too much idle time ma'am. Got any other hobbies besides gfy fairytales? Gotta put this energy towards something more productive.

See;,there’s this thing called copy and paste. When I search the news each night I find interesting stories and I might post them here to read various opinions. But you obviously prefer arguing and causing drama then discussing current events. I used to think differently about you but I see I was wrong.

Idle time! Hmmm good point. Every night when I get online I visit here. Why don’t you suggest things I can do to be more productive!

I could be like you and post here all day long. I could argue and fight and be sarcastic in posts to get fights going.

I could work on my new project, oh I already am. Just waiting for an email from my coder so I can move forward

I could practice typing by web surfing and posting. Oh that’s done at night.

I could go out and jog. I could get out and shop. I could remember everything I did this week and write about it. I could cook supper for my housemates and enjoy the praise. Any of these sound ‘productive’ to you?

Right now I’m going back to sleep as four hours sleep doesn’t work when I have such a busy day of going out to lunch and shopping. But y’all have a nice productive day, sitting at the computer and posting on GFY Let the arguments fuel your soul.

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Lol the entitlement is strong in her

Oh yea, I feel entitled to post here. I’m one of the special people who have permission to speak freely and post discussion topics.

😎

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

Oh yea, I feel entitled to post here. I’m one of the special people who have permission to speak freely and post discussion topics.

😎

I was referring to the lady who felt she can just occupy seats in a business without being a purchasing customer. That lady needs to travel more

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I was referring to the lady who felt she can just occupy seats in a business without being a purchasing customer. That lady needs to travel more

I sincerely apologize. I’m sure there’s more to this story but I had no time today to search. Either she comes in daily for hours of free WiFi and orders nothing or the rules have changed. I don’t see race as an issue here and if things were said about her color, she’d have said so.

I showed the original article online to someone today and we discussed it. Then I showed her this thread. We stayed in the restaurant for thirty extra minutes talking about this thread and story. Suffice to say that she read the blocked posts then blocked them again. She didn’t share the postsbut basically said I missed “moronic children echoing the moronic statements of other moronic children” and “these morons have anger issues due to being nothing in a world of somethings and lashing out at strangers behind a screen says they’re cowards with no friends and no life.”

I agreed but stated a few had potential or covered their intelligence by being stupid.

Again, Phoenix, I apologize for ranting at you. In a field of ignored posters and a few jerks, I read your post as another attack. Since you’re always level-headed, I chalked it upto a bad night and didn’t put you on ignore. I give people a chance before reacting. Good life lesson.

[Spunky]

[ghjghj]

[AdultKing]

Is PamWinterReturns a reincarnation of Sally Rand?

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Is PamWinterReturns a reincarnation of Sally Rand?

Umm, no. My dancing days are over. But I had a feather in my hair at a dance recital at age four so maybe ....

[baddog]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

See;,there’s this thing called copy and paste. When I search the news each night I find interesting stories and I might post them here to read various opinions. But you obviously prefer arguing and causing drama then discussing current events. I used to think differently about you but I see I was wrong.

Idle time! Hmmm good point. Every night when I get online I visit here. Why don’t you suggest things I can do to be more productive!

I could be like you and post here all day long. I could argue and fight and be sarcastic in posts to get fights going.

I could work on my new project, oh I already am. Just waiting for an email from my coder so I can move forward

I could practice typing by web surfing and posting. Oh that’s done at night.

I could go out and jog. I could get out and shop. I could remember everything I did this week and write about it. I could cook supper for my housemates and enjoy the praise. Any of these sound ‘productive’ to you?

Right now I’m going back to sleep as four hours sleep doesn’t work when I have such a busy day of going out to lunch and shopping. But y’all have a nice productive day, sitting at the computer and posting on GFY Let the arguments fuel your soul.

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

I sincerely apologize. I’m sure there’s more to this story but I had no time today to search. Either she comes in daily for hours of free WiFi and orders nothing or the rules have changed. I don’t see race as an issue here and if things were said about her color, she’d have said so.

I showed the original article online to someone today and we discussed it. Then I showed her this thread. We stayed in the restaurant for thirty extra minutes talking about this thread and story. Suffice to say that she read the blocked posts then blocked them again. She didn’t share the postsbut basically said I missed “moronic children echoing the moronic statements of other moronic children” and “these morons have anger issues due to being nothing in a world of somethings and lashing out at strangers behind a screen says they’re cowards with no friends and no life.”

I agreed but stated a few had potential or covered their intelligence by being stupid.

Again, Phoenix, I apologize for ranting at you. In a field of ignored posters and a few jerks, I read your post as another attack. Since you’re always level-headed, I chalked it upto a bad night and didn’t put you on ignore. I give people a chance before reacting. Good life lesson.

And you copy and pasted those responses?

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by baddog

And you copy and pasted those responses?

Of course not. The articles I occasionally post are generally lengthy and I copy and paste those. Typing with one finger or a stylus is time-consuming but I’m a writer, so I tend to write long responses while thinking from several angles.

Here I could have typed “no” and left it at that. I’m going to sleep but wanted to explain clearly in my answer.

Or, “no, I don’t have the app to do that” but then I’d want to write about the stupid app!

Five minutes to type and now I can try to sleep.

‘Night

[JSWENSON]

Shave your pits.

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Shave your pits.

[AdultKing]

Definitely Sally Rand, absolutely not a webmaster, but that's GFY these days

[$5 submissions]

Interesting timeline

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Is PamWinterReturns a reincarnation of Sally Rand?

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Definitely Sally Rand

[HairyChick]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Definitely Sally Rand, absolutely not a webmaster, but that's GFY these days

Yeah, I just claim my first site went up in ‘93. I retired and said I had 150+ websites but never had one. A programmer from gfy is coding for me but it’s a lie. Hell, I claim I produced videos and accompanying websites but I dream. I was featured on Channel Four in Britain but it wasn’t me and I had a model portray me.

Wait, looking down I see a tree! I must be John and not Pam. The truth is out. Don’t know the first thing about html or ftp or getting to a website via dos prompt. I still want to learn how to have a website. I could learn in the thirty minutes I spend here each day.

I’d learn from the webmasters who are here 24/7! That’s the ticket! Why waste time at Netscape or Lycos or when I can learn so much here! After all, you assholes errr so-called webmasters discuss html and JavaScript and talk about image reduction all the time. Y’all share such good information on building successful websites. And those tips on how to get traffic and signups by putting images on a site that attract men but aren’t in the site? Wow. Lie, misadvertise, upcharge ... you really taught this guy errr girl how to rip-off people easily.

My hopes are to be just like y’all and brag about imaginary business! Ah, it’s nice to have life goals at 25. Let me go peruse the recent posts about making money as an adult webmaster. The knowledge will stay with me forever.

PS: This post is mostly bullshit ‘cept for the first paragraph. The rest is tongue-in-cheek while I soak my feet in a massaging foot bath. I think it feels really good!

[PornDude]