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onwebcam · 12-05-2018, 11:32 PM

Compared to 35% of native households

https://www.cis.org/Report/63-NonCit...lfare-Programs

Bladewire · 12-05-2018, 11:34 PM

You're still so mentally fragile after Trump's fall from Grace.

Just a few more hours and you'll be on day 9 of your epic GFY meltdown you shitty foreign alt-right hate fake nic troll.

onwebcam · 12-05-2018, 11:37 PM

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How do you like my new hat?

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King Mark · 12-06-2018, 12:09 AM

There's a statistic and/or chart for everything. I can pull one up right now proving trump is already the shittiest president we've ever had.

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

There's a statistic and/or chart for everything. I can pull one up right now proving trump is already the shittiest president we've ever had.

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 12:18 AM

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 12:20 AM

Everything is rigged, everything is fake, etc... Unless it's some actual fake news glorifying him. Then it's magically real.

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

There's a statistic and/or chart for everything. I can pull one up right now proving trump is already the shittiest president we've ever had.

He's so butthurt he's obsessed on diverting focus from Trump's fall from grace 24/7

I'm chilling watching the disintegration of his fake reality he's triggered beyond all repair at his point.

He'll reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

He has no impulse control it's part of his mental defect

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Correct, the actual figure is higher...

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 12:22 AM

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King Mark · 12-06-2018, 12:23 AM

The next generation is going to be able to roast this generation so fucking hard... these kids coming up got so much ammo it's insane.

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

The next generation is going to be able to roast this generation so fucking hard... these kids coming up got so much ammo it's insane.

A 73 year old stealing an election with Russian adversaries trying to take America back to the slave days.

Republicans will pay for this for generations to come as will Russia thanks to Putin

He'll reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

He has no impulse control it's part of his mental defect

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 12:30 AM

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MFCT · 12-06-2018, 02:46 AM

It just goes to prove that America is still 37% racist. The number should be 100% because we owe them!

Paul Markham · 12-06-2018, 05:14 AM

What the opposition failed to do is show is show stats that prove the OP is wrong. Why?

sarettah · 12-06-2018, 08:16 AM

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The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a non-partisan, non-profit organization and think tank "that favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views."

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Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers such as PolitiFact, FactCheck.Org, Washington Post, Snopes, CNN and NBC News, and immigration-research organizations. The organization has been cited by President Donald Trump on Twitter, and used by members of his administration.

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King Mark · 12-06-2018, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What the opposition failed to do is show is show stats that prove the OP is wrong. Why?

I'm not opposing. Just not stupid. Studies have shown that poor immigrants used welfare at a lower rate than poor native-born Americans and actually contribute much more to these programs than they consume from it.

Have fun pushing y'all agenda tho.

Paul Markham · 12-06-2018, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I'm not opposing. Just not stupid. Studies have shown that poor immigrants used welfare at a lower rate than poor native-born Americans and actually contribute much more to these programs than they consume from it.

Have fun pushing y'all agenda tho.

So. The US has problems with supplying enough well paid jobs to Americans so they can contribute more. And it's importing more people to go on welfare. And you think that's Okay.

Explain that to us all.

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 08:47 AM

Who said that I said that the scenario you said is ok?

BaldBastard · 12-06-2018, 08:49 AM

But America is an country of immigrants.. And sure that first generation needs the most support, but they have kids that become citizens and those kids children become natives..

It's not something you can take a 2018 snapshot of, its been going on since the second white man arrived... and he needed some help from the first arrival.

Slaves were never free... they all needed housing, training and some educations before they could work ;)

the graphs aren't a sign of a broken system, it's a system working as intended.

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 08:50 AM

Paul, one thing you haven't understood is that just because I don't fall for fake righty shit, that doesn't mean I'm a liberal. I'm way more conservative than most gfy conservatards. I'm Muslim afterall. I'm just not a stupid as you guys. That's all.

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

Paul, one thing you haven't understood is that just because I don't fall for fake righty shit, that doesn't mean I'm a liberal. I'm way more conservative than most gfy conservatards. I'm Muslim afterall. I'm just not a stupid as you guys. That's all.

They call all of us anti Trumpers far left liberals.

They are intellectually lazy it's part of their mental defect to not see people as individuals.

They call Republicans who turn against Trump "far left liberals". Trumpers are idiot lemmings.

sarettah · 12-06-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So. The US has problems with supplying enough well paid jobs to Americans so they can contribute more.

You are wrong. Why don't you provide facts to back your claims up? You won't be able to.

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onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You are wrong. Why don't you provide facts to back your claims up? You won't be able to.

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The facts are posted in the first post. Which is directly from census data

sarettah · 12-06-2018, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

The facts are posted in the first post.

Facts to back up what Markham said regarding US employment are not in the bullshit study you posted that I could see.

Please stay with the conversation. I know it is difficult because we sometimes use multiple syllables in our words.

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King Mark · 12-06-2018, 09:18 AM

Meanwhile, the Jews in Lakewood are relieved to see the attention being diverted.

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Facts to back up what Markham said regarding US employment are not in the bullshit study you posted that I could see.

Please stay with the conversation. I know it is difficult because we sometimes use multiple syllables in our words.

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If you need government assistance then you obviously aren't making enough to support yourself and/or your family..
OR you are gaming the system < likely in many cases.. Bread earner (father) works mostly if not completely under the table... Mom gets all sorts of benefits for the fam..

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

If you need government assistance then you obviously aren't making enough to support yourself and/or your family..
OR you are gaming the system < likely in many cases..

What about the fact that they contribute more to welfare than they consume. What's the conservatards rebuttle to that?

beerptrol · 12-06-2018, 09:27 AM

Alt right cultist shit parrot regurgitating shit that his brain dead ass was spoon fed

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

What about the fact that they contribute more to welfare than they consume. What's the conservatards rebuttle to that?

Wrong, those figures have been discussed as of late as well. For starters how would that even be possible considering many work under the table?

My mom has a rental property that had a bunch of Mexicans living in it.. Every single room in the 3000sf house was multi-person/fam including the living room and den. Every time she/we would show up to collect rent all of a sudden no one could speak English. Little did they know that my mom was married to a Peruvian and my little sister (part Peruvian) speaks fluent Spanish. My mom speaks enough to get by.. The house was always surrounded by late model SUVs but each and every single month the 10+ adults and 15 children living there apparently couldn't scrape up the rent money. They didn't have any problem calling every month to complain about the septic system clogging up because they had too many people living there though.. It was a real headache.. The only way we got them out is having my Uncle show up with us in his Sheriffs Dept car and we informed them immigration officers were next.. They were out faster than you can say hasta la vista.

sarettah · 12-06-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

If you need government assistance then you obviously aren't making enough to support yourself and/or your family..
OR you are gaming the system < likely in many cases.. Bread earner (father) works mostly if not completely under the table... Mom gets all sorts of benefits for the fam..

Markham implied that somehow illegal (or legal) immigrants were taking high paying jobs or at least keeping American citizens from getting high paying jobs.

What you stated does not address that statement.

If you do not remember how to scroll back I will quote Mr. Magic Links here:

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Originally Posted by Mr. Magic Join Links

So. The US has problems with supplying enough well paid jobs to Americans so they can contribute more. And it's importing more people to go on welfare. And you think that's Okay.

As all you Trumpeteers love to point out, the U.S. is supposedly enjoying the lowest unemployment rates in history. So, what high paying jobs are in jeopardy from an inflow of poor immigrants?

They do not compete for high paying jobs. They compete for jobs that nobody else wants to do,

So, unless agricultural field workers or roof construction is now considered a white collar level of employment, he is wrong and does not have facts to back up his statement.

You are just guilty of an extremely low level of reading comprehension and an apparent love of getting yourself smacked down on a webmaster board.

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King Mark · 12-06-2018, 09:50 AM

I don't care about your mom. Sorry. Reality is up to 75% of these undocumented immigrants are paying taxes... Something trump doesn't even do. And that's straight from the non-partisan congressional budget office's mouth.

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Markham implied that somehow illegal (or legal) immigrants were taking high paying jobs or at least keeping American citizens from getting high paying jobs.

What you stated does not address that statement.

If you do not remember how to scroll back I will quote Mr. Magic Links here:

You can't even comprehend what he said and you're trying to lecture me? Let me help you out... Re-read this over and over until you get it.

"So. The US has problems with supplying enough well paid jobs to Americans so they can contribute more. And it's importing more people to go on welfare. And you think that's Okay.

Explain that to us all."

RedFred · 12-06-2018, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

If you need government assistance then you obviously aren't making enough to support yourself and/or your family..
OR you are gaming the system < likely in many cases.. Bread earner (father) works mostly if not completely under the table... Mom gets all sorts of benefits for the fam..

Good to know about your mom, what benefits does she get?

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 09:56 AM

That's because Paul is an out-dated european asking weird american questions.

Let me ask you this, onwebcam, would you pick grapes for less than minimum wage? And pay taxes on that money?

You won't, but they're "takin our jerbs" and "using up all da welfares"

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

I don't care about your mom. Sorry. Reality is up to 75% of these undocumented immigrants are paying taxes... Something trump doesn't even do. And that's straight from the non-partisan congressional budget office's mouth.

LOL Trump leaked 1yr of his tax returns and he paid like 30 something million in that 1 year alone.. GTFO with that BS... The IRS probably had a fucking office in his office..

How does an "undocumented immigrant" pay taxes? The only way is by STEALING someone else's DOCUMENTS

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 10:00 AM

See... Stupidity

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

LOL Trump leaked 1yr of his tax returns and he paid like 30 something million in that 1 year alone.. GTFO with that BS... The IRS probably had a fucking office in his office..

How does an "undocumented immigrant" pay taxes? The only way is by STEALING someone else's DOCUMENTS

↑↑↑ Russian alt-right hate fake nic troll pretending to be American gives himself away yet again with his bullshit not knowing how people pay food taxes, electric tax, gas tax, etc. taxes in America

Eric, please BAN this fake nic troll he's breaking GFY TOS

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

That's because Paul is an out-dated european asking weird american questions.

Let me ask you this, onwebcam, would you pick grapes for less than minimum wage? And pay taxes on that money?

You won't, but they're "takin our jerbs" and "using up all da welfares"

Farmworkers and Laborers, Cro Career

Salary Info
Median Annual Wage
$23,820
Median Hourly Wage
$11.45*
Total Employed Nationally
273,450

https://www.mymajors.com/career/grape-picker/salary/

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Farmworkers and Laborers, Cro Career

Salary Info
Median Annual Wage
$23,820
Median Hourly Wage
$11.45*
Total Employed Nationally
273,450

https://www.mymajors.com/career/grape-picker/salary/

That does not answer my question. The internet also says gorcery baggers make $9.00 an hour with benefits.

Actually going out in America will prove something totally different.

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

That does not answer my question. The internet also says gorcery baggers make $9.00 an hour with benefits.

Actually going out in America will prove something totally different.

Yes, you should get out more.. The local grocery stores here pretty much have permanent help wanted signs with $12+ an hour plus benefits on them

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 10:18 AM

So if your local grocery stores have all these amazing jobs available, how are these immigrants affecting you?

Hint, don't say it's from being able to pay grape pickers premium salaries.

RedFred · 12-06-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Yes, you should get out more.. The local grocery stores here pretty much have permanent help wanted signs with $12+ an hour plus benefits on them

Well then why in the hell don't you get a job at the Piggly Wiggly so your mom can get off food stamps??

onwebcam · 12-06-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

So if your local grocery stores have all these amazing jobs available, how are these immigrants affecting you?

Hint, don't say it's from being able to pay grape pickers premium salaries.

Did you miss the entire discussion? Also, you can't work at Kroger (local grocer) undocumented because the documents are needed TO PAY TAXES?

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Paul Markham · 12-06-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You are wrong. Why don't you provide facts to back your claims up? You won't be able to.

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https://www.google.com/search?ei=A1k...21.-uLFlxQVwLE

https://www.google.com/search?ei=FVk...03.nNDYXHJPpTE

https://www.google.com/search?ei=TVk...21.ScMqBimea38
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Do you need more proof?

Satisfied?

Bladewire · 12-06-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

https://www.google.com/search?ei=A1k...21.-uLFlxQVwLE

https://www.google.com/search?ei=FVk...03.nNDYXHJPpTE

https://www.google.com/search?ei=TVk...21.ScMqBimea38
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Do you need more proof?

Satisfied?

You are so lazy

King Mark · 12-06-2018, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Well then why in the hell don't you get a job at the Piggly Wiggly so your mom can get off food stamps??

Cause the Mexicans took the jobs, that ain't taken... But are taken. Whatever, just build a wall... Cause welfare.

Paul Markham · 12-06-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead Eye

What about the fact that they contribute more to welfare than they consume. What's the conservatards rebuttle to that?

Low paid, unemployed, non-working migrants don't contribute. No one wants to stop all migration, that's just the scare tactics people use to stop people using simple methods to filter out those who don't contribute or take the jobs citizens would do.

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12-06-2018, 12:09 AM	#4
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	There's a statistic and/or chart for everything. I can pull one up right now proving trump is already the shittiest president we've ever had.

12-06-2018, 12:20 AM	#7
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Everything is rigged, everything is fake, etc... Unless it's some actual fake news glorifying him. Then it's magically real.

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King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	The next generation is going to be able to roast this generation so fucking hard... these kids coming up got so much ammo it's insane.

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12-06-2018, 08:47 AM	#21
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Who said that I said that the scenario you said is ok?

12-06-2018, 08:49 AM	#22
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,868	But America is an country of immigrants.. And sure that first generation needs the most support, but they have kids that become citizens and those kids children become natives.. It's not something you can take a 2018 snapshot of, its been going on since the second white man arrived... and he needed some help from the first arrival. Slaves were never free... they all needed housing, training and some educations before they could work ;) the graphs aren't a sign of a broken system, it's a system working as intended.

12-06-2018, 08:50 AM	#23
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Paul, one thing you haven't understood is that just because I don't fall for fake righty shit, that doesn't mean I'm a liberal. I'm way more conservative than most gfy conservatards. I'm Muslim afterall. I'm just not a stupid as you guys. That's all.

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King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	I don't care about your mom. Sorry. Reality is up to 75% of these undocumented immigrants are paying taxes... Something trump doesn't even do. And that's straight from the non-partisan congressional budget office's mouth.

12-06-2018, 09:56 AM	#37
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	That's because Paul is an out-dated european asking weird american questions. Let me ask you this, onwebcam, would you pick grapes for less than minimum wage? And pay taxes on that money? You won't, but they're "takin our jerbs" and "using up all da welfares"

12-06-2018, 10:00 AM	#39
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	See... Stupidity

12-06-2018, 10:18 AM	#44
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	So if your local grocery stores have all these amazing jobs available, how are these immigrants affecting you? Hint, don't say it's from being able to pay grape pickers premium salaries.