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Trump gets out of war
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/u...ithdrawal.html
Less waging war is what he promised and it looks like he delivers. Unlike every other president before him. This is a milestone in the history of United States' usual policy of perpetual invasions, wars and coups. This is great news, even people on the left are probably applauding this anti war stance ![]() |
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This is Trump bending over for Putin one last time.
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Aha ok, that's the excuse. I guess if you are pro war and love hundreds of thousands of dead families there's always an excuse to do it. Like all the excuses Bush told the people to invade Iraq right? Since you want the US to keep waging war you probably supported that war as well. No problem, it's just a bit psychotic and inhumane!
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He has to please his master Putin, who is very happy about this!
and this Trump admin to lift sanctions on firms owned by Russian oligarch Deripaska
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OP seems almost too happy ISIS will be allowed to flourish once again and Putin gains.
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Not to mention the Kurds who helped us will be slaughtered by Chump's buddy Erdoğan
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Not taking your expert foreign policy analysis and access to top government officials into account (you must have that access to get to such a bold statement), here's a simple question: Do you want more Americans and foreigners to die on foreign soil or less?
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Congress is going to unanimously vote to stop Trump on this, they've already starting drawing up the legislation.
Trump bypassed notifying congress of his intent. He wants to think he's a dictator. |
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What's wrong with you? You've stated a number of times that you hate America and the EU and you sure love everything that helps Russia in any way. You're not fooling anyone. Quote:
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So, also not an excuse. Why is everyone looking for excuses to keep being in wars? I had no idea so many people were such warmongers. |
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Stopping ISIS terrorists is not "war mongering" you stupid piece of shit. You are pro Assad & pro Putin that's why you want America out of Syria, so Assad & ISIS can kill millions. |
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Btw the primary objective the US had was to overthrow Assad and replace him with a puppet government, so they'd control Syria as well. But they were forced to fight the new strain of ultra psychopathic terrorists trained by the CIA, because these terrorists were unexpectedly gaining power fast. It even resulted in terror attacks across Europe, and the destruction of Europe as we know it with the help of Merkels invitation and the wide open border "policy" of the EU.
So i'm glad America, Russia and Assad eventually collectively beat ISIS. What we've learned from this is if there is a real threat, countries, leaders, and even dictators like Assad, can set aside their corporate agendas in gaining or keeping power, and work together. Even if it is indirectly like in this case. It gives one hope. |
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I have mixed feelings about this. Part of me is very happy we are leaving because the idea of US soldiers dying in the Middle East makes me ill, however, this likely is just going to make things worse over there and we will still be blamed for it.
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You know how you give yourself away? You say you live in Holland, but hate everything about Holland and hate everything about the EU and hate everything about America. You only talk positively about dictators like Assad & Putin. If you actually lived in Holland and you hated it so much you would have moved to Turkey or Russia or North Korea where you think everything is bliss in their utopian societies |
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His top advisers all tell him not to do it, yet again he trusted his "gut"
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The USA can not afford peace...
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Population control
Speaking of population control Trump urges Kosovo to seize chance for peace with Serbia |
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This is how fucked up and how stupid the Trump administration is.... Ten minutes before Trump tweeted "We defeated ISIS" in Syria.... ISIS in Syria announced they had just completed a terrorist attack in ISIS. WTF? Don't get me wrong. I am on record here no GFY as saying we shouldn't be in Syria. This is none of our business. Syria is in the Russian sphere of influence, always has been, and it's not our problem. We surely do not want to directly confront Russia in a combat zone, which seems to have happened (and they got their asses kicked badly). But now I question the motive - Was this keeping a campaign promise, or was it because it was something he promised Putin in one of the sixteen secret contacts the Trump administration has had with the Russian government? The President of the United just lied. He said "ISIS is defeated". They aren't. We already know this. Moments before Mr. trump made the announcement they staged a terrorist attack. How is it Mr. trump can tell a lie to the American people and the entire country not be up in arms about it?
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Russia's Cheering.
‘Russia wins’: Fury in Washington as Trump announces withdrawal from Syria https://www.rt.com/usa/446895-usa-re...ia-withdrawal/ |
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Weird seeing "Liberals" wanting more war. lol
Trump delusions cause political party team players to do total 180 degree turns. Basically whatever Trump wants done is instantly BAD. Even if it's exactly what liberal minded people have wanted from the start. |
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Trump is doing it for the wrong reasons, but it is the right thing to do . USA created that so-called civil war , and now Syria ( with Assad at the helm ) along with Russia nnd Iran can keep it under control. Maybe USA could concentrate on Iraq and Afghanistan , if they absolutely want to be nation builders .... ![]() |
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Pentagon, not happy. Putin, happy: Trump calls for removal of troops from Syria |
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Less war is better... But I ain't being bamboozled. Treason is unforgivable.
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As I stated above, I was always against us being in Syria. I stated my reasons above. But now I question the entire logic behind the withdrawal. Trump has said he doesn't want American deaths in Syria (but Afghanistan is fine), and he has also said we have defeated ISIS (but we obviously haven't). The two reasons he has given us for the withdrawal are completely false. According to his own logic, he did the direct opposite of what he should have done. He should have withdrawn troops from Afghanistan (because he doesn't want American deaths) but should have put more troops in Syria (because he is concerned about defeating ISIS). It's time to accept that our President is completely owned by Putin.
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It's been reported that there was no interagency consultation about this Syria pullout. Trump made a snap decision and the defense department had no idea what was going on when reporters asked them about it. No details about the number of troops left behind, timeline, etc. They knew nothing because Trumpy Wumpy had a brain fart. Or the more likely answer is that he needed a distraction for the "signed letter of intent" news debacle.
Republicans will spin this is Trump being a hero. But in actuality, this is him trying to fit in as many Putin requests as possible before it all comes crashing down.
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Always a good read on this subject.
Timber Sycamore https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore Your welcome.
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This should be good news, but apparently isn't. Twilight Zone all over again...
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You mean that whatever Trump does in insanely bad. The guy has a knack for fucking up every decision he makes.
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Some day you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that you voted for a criminal and quite possibly a traitor. Let that thought stew in your mind a little bit. |
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Should America be interfering with the politics and leaders of foreign countries?
Should Americans die interfering with the politics and leaders of foreign countries? Will the peace loving people these ME countries take over now? So many questions. |
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Should Paul be constantly interfering in American politics?
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Weird seeing the POTUS ignoring his own military and advisers to make Russia happy. Weird seeing the POTUS upset the nations allies and long term friends with an ill conceived knee jerk reaction. Or it should be.......
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this is why I hope small countries will nuke/bacteria up real soon...our lives are worth exactly 0 to the invader and until we develop the "off" switch to life on earth the invader will have "ideas" about what to do with your life...but once we develop "off" then the invader will cherish your life very very very very very much... what I do not understand is why people play the invaders rigged game with this regular warfare bullshit..."fuck off or die" is the perfect foreign policy, there is nothing to talk about, there is nothing to negotiate...if the USA does not like something it can fuck off or die...is this not beautiful? |
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Chump is weak and cowers to dictators. Now North Korea is dictating new terms
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Just asking questions. If you don't want to answer then that's fine.
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Putin: ‘US right to leave Syria, but no signs of pullout – remember Afghanistan’
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Kind of funny how he directed strikes on russian and syrian targets, and was so proud of them on twitter, and now he wants out.
He is so flawed. So fucking weak.
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you are invader gangsters with selective memory...your memory will improve vastly once we all have "off"...
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