1 year in despite 2.9% growth the tax cut didnt pay for itself

[crockett]

Once again trickle down economics is shown as the sham everyone with a brain knew it was..


Trump and Republidumbs promised everyone who would listen that the tax cuts would pay for themselves due to economic growth.

The economy grew at 2.9% and tax revenue is down by $83 billion dollars... Meanwhile Trump cant stop trying to figure out how to spend even more money..



[Url]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/business/trump-tax-cuts-revenue.html[/url[

[Rochard]

So.... much.... winning....

[pimpmaster9000]

I am really confused now...trump promised there would be lots of MAGA...he also wrote a book about making the best deals...

here is trickle down economy explained in a way dumb dumbs will understand: "OK you bend over and I will fuck you in the ass and some of your own ass will trickle down to you and you can fuck it"

[Paul Markham]

Americans pay too little tax already.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Americans pay too little tax already.

Yet you still can't get enough of Trumps cock in your mouth.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Yet you still can't get enough of Trumps cock in your mouth.

On his tax cuts I disagree with his plans. Like so other things he offers. His plans for the environment being one.

I agree with him on illegal immigration. For too long illegals have been allowed to flow in to provide cheap labour and reduce the cost of employment and increase the costs to the taxpayers.

But you agree with that policy so good for you.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I agree with him on illegal immigration. For too long illegals have been allowed to flow in to provide cheap labour and reduce the cost of employment and increase the costs to the taxpayers.

Yeah they should move their production to a cheap country instead...like paul markham for example...why bother importing that sweet sweet chap labor when you can go to the source AND enjoy cheap life as well?...then you can be a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucking hypocrite and be against it all...what a fucking joke...

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Americans pay too little tax already.

I agree. Trump needs to raise taxes on corporations and get rid of alot of the loopholes.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

On his tax cuts I disagree with his plans. Like so other things he offers. His plans for the environment being one.

Me too. Trump is a fucking disgusting president for all kinds of reasons, the environment being near the top of my list.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I agree with him on illegal immigration.

No. His immigration policies are the worst ever, because they are based on racism, hate and fear instead of real numbers. It's so flawed that he has to lie like crazy to try to push them through.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

or too long illegals have been allowed to flow in to provide cheap labour and reduce the cost of employment and increase the costs to the taxpayers.

The amount of immigrants coming to the US has been declining for the past 20 years. To fix the the problem, he should be making it easier for immigrants to register and file for immigration, yes, while maintaining a policy to eject all criminals. It will save alot of money, help the economy and increase the tax base at the same time.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

On his tax cuts I disagree with his plans. Like so other things he offers. His plans for the environment being one.

I agree with him on illegal immigration. For too long illegals have been allowed to flow in to provide cheap labour and reduce the cost of employment and increase the costs to the taxpayers.

But you agree with that policy so good for you.

do you really think that one here is PRO-illegal immigration?

but solutions needs someone that have an idea what is happening in the world - trump isn´t one of them. he lives like you in a very limited dimension and think he is the one and only who know about all and everything.

but even his business history shows you that he is a really bad business man and all he survives on is not paying bills.

whatever solution one might have it have to be balanced with the consequences and touched by the roots.
I think even the dumbest american knows that the most ILLEGALS do not come from there where he want to make a wall.

why would he want to spend billions on tearing up a leaf from a tree standing in the way?

to even mention such a stupid idea shows you that he should better clean toilettes as to sit on the POTUS chair.

same thing with his economy ideas. they are so fucking stupid because only one that thinks there is only america on the globe can believe in such bullshit.

what he is doing here is his economic vietnam - not to win at all because even if he would be able to stop the car by crashing the motor, the car will not drive anymore.

america depends MUCH MORE on china´s health than vise versa.

I am not sure if you would take a pill that kills you when you have cancer just because someone tells you it will kill your cancer too.

for me there is not one person i have ever seen in my life that is so easy to read and identifiy as a chronic liar as he is. look at his eyes and count them - the number of eyes he have is similar to his IQ. I will never understand how some people can not see that.

even when you are lack in reading people - read all he said and check the facts. THOUSANDS of proven lies in just 2 years - HOW can someone take this guy serious or protect him ? a 15 years old blind poodle with 3 legs would be a more trusted POTUS of a country that was always in a critical focus but as least respected.

but maybe that is his stratgey. maybe he wants to make the USA to such a disliked country that even the immigrants will not want to go there anymore.
THAN the wall would make sense but the same sense that the german wall had after they declared it for a protection to let enemies IN.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by thommy

do you really think that one here is PRO-illegal immigration?

The right wing pushes that "taking point" of "Democrats support illegal immigration" so they can claim Democrats are doing it to cheat elections.

The reason behind this, is because they know the GOP has systematically rigged multiple states elections so they use the blame and distract tactic just like the trolls do here..

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I am really confused now...trump promised there would be lots of MAGA...he also wrote a book about making the best deals...

here is trickle down economy explained in a way dumb dumbs will understand: "OK you bend over and I will fuck you in the ass and some of your own ass will trickle down to you and you can fuck it"

No No No you got it wrong he said SMEGMA


smeg·ma
/ˈsmeɡmə/Submit
noun
a sebaceous secretion in the folds of the skin, especially under a man's foreskin.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by thommy

do you really think that one here is PRO-illegal immigration?

but solutions needs someone that have an idea what is happening in the world - trump isn´t one of them. he lives like you in a very limited dimension and think he is the one and only who know about all and everything.

but even his business history shows you that he is a really bad business man and all he survives on is not paying bills.

whatever solution one might have it have to be balanced with the consequences and touched by the roots.
I think even the dumbest american knows that the most ILLEGALS do not come from there where he want to make a wall.

why would he want to spend billions on tearing up a leaf from a tree standing in the way?

to even mention such a stupid idea shows you that he should better clean toilettes as to sit on the POTUS chair.

same thing with his economy ideas. they are so fucking stupid because only one that thinks there is only america on the globe can believe in such bullshit.

what he is doing here is his economic vietnam - not to win at all because even if he would be able to stop the car by crashing the motor, the car will not drive anymore.

america depends MUCH MORE on china´s health than vise versa.

I am not sure if you would take a pill that kills you when you have cancer just because someone tells you it will kill your cancer too.

for me there is not one person i have ever seen in my life that is so easy to read and identifiy as a chronic liar as he is. look at his eyes and count them - the number of eyes he have is similar to his IQ. I will never understand how some people can not see that.

even when you are lack in reading people - read all he said and check the facts. THOUSANDS of proven lies in just 2 years - HOW can someone take this guy serious or protect him ? a 15 years old blind poodle with 3 legs would be a more trusted POTUS of a country that was always in a critical focus but as least respected.

but maybe that is his stratgey. maybe he wants to make the USA to such a disliked country that even the immigrants will not want to go there anymore.
THAN the wall would make sense but the same sense that the german wall had after they declared it for a protection to let enemies IN.

Not one word on how to reduce illegal immigration. IMO A stronger border is one measure of many.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crockett

The right wing pushes that "taking point" of "Democrats support illegal immigration" so they can claim Democrats are doing it to cheat elections.

The reason behind this, is because they know the GOP has systematically rigged multiple states elections so they use the blame and distract tactic just like the trolls do here..

Illegal immigration has been allowed by so many politicians for too long both Democrats and Republicans. How many cities are designated a Sanctuary city, how many illegals have a driving license, how many illegals are being taught in American Schools, healthcare, etc. This is the first President who has put illegal immigration at the front.

But if you don't like it, keep paying for the costs in your taxes.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Illegal immigration has been allowed by so many politicians for too long both Democrats and Republicans. How many cities are designated a Sanctuary city, how many illegals have a driving license, how many illegals are being taught in American Schools, healthcare, etc. This is the first President who has put illegal immigration at the front.

But if you don't like it, keep paying for the costs in your taxes.

No, American politicians have not "allowed" illegal immigration for "too long". Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any other president but you don't seem to understand this. You are believing the image Trump is trying to send out that he is "strong against illegal immigration" and "protecting Americans" and "strong for our economy". He isn't any of these things.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I agree. Trump needs to raise taxes on corporations and get rid of alot of the loopholes.

Not corporations. It's far to easy for the big boys to register in a tax haven and run a business in the US. That only hurts the small guys. Getting rid of the loopholes is a good way of raising more. But in the end it must fall onto the citizens of a country to pay for the running costs of that country.

Me too. Trump is a fucking disgusting president for all kinds of reasons, the environment being near the top of my list.

Agree.

No. His immigration policies are the worst ever, because they are based on racism, hate and fear instead of real numbers. It's so flawed that he has to lie like crazy to try to push them through.

Why is it based on racism? Don't just say it is. Give me reasons.

The amount of immigrants coming to the US has been declining for the past 20 years. To fix the the problem, he should be making it easier for immigrants to register and file for immigration, yes, while maintaining a policy to eject all criminals. It will save alot of money, help the economy and increase the tax base at the same time.

Adding people to the work force reduces wages, therefore reducing taxes and adding to the numbers of unemployed relying on the tax payers for welfare. This is why you have to pay more of the costs to get what you want.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not one word on how to reduce illegal immigration.

i am not paid to be the president of united states (and I would not want to be that).

I just know that solutions need far more data and facts as I can have.
but i can see that he might have them but not uses them. so HE is useless and don´t do the job.

IMO A stronger border is one measure of many.

it is already proven as not effective, and not focused on the really big part of the problem and MUCH too expensive.

out of that there is not one reliable scientific research that sorts out the really consequences it will have. with other words: NOBODY KNOWS yet how important even the illegals are for the american economy system.

what will they do when workers that do work who nobody wants to do leave open jobs when they go? this would not only make the daily life of each american more expensive it would also affect those businesses that make money with this illegals (sell them food or rent condos or houses to them).

the power of an economy is determined not only by its performance but also by the quantity of its consumption (which you will learn soon enough when england is out of the EU)

a wall does not stop airplanes and ships and also not the illegals that come through canada. or do you want to build a wall there too?
from what?

america´s dept is already 22 trillion dollars and it needs every dollar to fight the consequences of the stupid trade war that will hit hard.
trump made in a wealthy economic environment MORE depts than any other before him.

and this is EXACTLY what he have done with every business he run in bankruptcy - can´t you see that?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

how many illegals have a driving license, how many illegals are being taught in American Schools, healthcare,

so they do the same as every other citizen - MAKE THEM LEGAL !!! this is the answer !

if trump would be smart and do that he would get rid of ALL ILLEGALS OVER NIGHT AT NO COSTS !

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Not one word on how to reduce illegal immigration. IMO A stronger border is one measure of many.

Hey.. How about you stick to the topic of Trump tax plan is putting America in more debt and go to some other topic to talk about illegal immigration. I'm sick of you Red Hats and your constant attempts to distract from legitimate topics..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crockett

The economy grew at 2.9% and tax revenue is down by $83 billion dollars... Meanwhile Trump cant stop trying to figure out how to spend even more money..

The Republican playbook for decades

Lie & distract while you steal from the treasury and relax business/banking laws so it's easier to rip off citizens and/or financially enslave them at predatory interest rates.

[Acepimp]

Another hate-filled circle jerk. Imagine my shock.

When corporate tax rates are among the highest in the world, companies leave. Or they hide their profits overseas. This is 1st grade stuff, how do you people not know this?