OneHungLo

Birthright citizenship is every child born on US soil is automatically a native-born citizen, regardless of the immigration status of the parents. Pretty much every country on the planet does not give citizenship unless the parents are citizens.

I can only imagine the untold billions that it cost us taxpayers. And it isn't just Mexicans, it's people from all over; China, Russia etc. There'a huge industry based around this.

Should we put an end to the constitutional right to citizenship for babies born in the United States to non-citizens?

King Mark

Fuck no. Foh. It's a constitutional right. If you consider ending any of it, take yo ass to Russia bro. Weirdo.

GAMEFINEST

Not sure if its a good idea.

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OneHungLo

So you’re ok with an illegal coming here, popping out a kid then collecting welfare / section8 and all the gibbme’s ? That’s crazy.

My guess is you’re probably a 3rd gen welfare recipient because there’s no other way you’d be cool with that.

King Mark

You added all kinds of extras all by yourself.

If you don't like the Constitution, be out. Putin has space for you.

CurrentlySober

We do in the UK, provided you register the birth, but then you are supposed to register al births anyway, regardless of the parents immigration status.

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MFCT

I'm only in favor of it for those whom I refer to as "undocumented Democrats". Anyone else can go fuck themselves.

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Bladewire

The Russian propoganda alt-right hate troll wants russian citizenship rules for America go figure.

bronco67

Russian motherfucker.

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NoWhErE

why not just cut to the chase? Switch your red hats for pointy white hoods and go rally a bit. We all know where this is headed anyways. So why keep beating around the bush?

RedFred

People like the OP makes the world a shitty place.

GOP = Government Of Putin

2MuchMark

I can think of 2 certain, older, good ol' boys here on GFY that would agree with you on that OP...

Paul Markham

What's wrong with the children going with their parents back to where they started?

Or putting them up for adoption?

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directfiesta

Deal : get rid of birthright for get rid of 2nd amendment ...

directfiesta

wrong again :

Child Birth Canada. Canadian nationality law is defined by the Citizenship Act, which determines who is eligible to be a citizen of Canada. Canadian citizenship is typically obtained by child birth in Canada on the principle of “jus soli.” “Jus soli” is a Latin phrase for “the right of soil.”Jan 16, 2019

Unrestricted jus soli
Antigua and Barbuda: Guaranteed by the Constitution.[11][12]
Argentina Argentina[11]
Barbados Barbados: Guaranteed by the Constitution.[11][13] However, the Barbados Ministry of Labour & Immigration recently proposed ending automatic birthright citizenship.[14]
Belize[11][15]
Bolivia[11]
Brazil Brazil[11][16] (requires that the foreign parents are not working for their country's government in Brazil by the time the child is born).
Canada: Subsection 3(2) of the Act states that Canadian citizenship by birth in Canada is not granted to a child born in Canada if neither parent was a Canadian citizen or permanent resident and either parent was a diplomat, in service to a diplomat, or employed by an international agency of equal status to a diplomat. However, if neither parents were diplomats, the nationality or immigration status of the parents do not matter.[17] Some Conservative Party members wish to end birthright citizenship in Canada to the children of tourists and unauthorized immigrants.[18]
Chad Chad[19][20] (The choice to take Chadian citizenship, or that of the parents is made at 18 years of age.)[21]
Chile Chile[11][22]
Costa Rica[23] (Jus sangui requires registration with the Costa Rican government before the age of twenty-five)
Dominica[11][24]
Ecuador[11]
El Salvador[11]
Fiji[25]
Grenada[11]
Guatemala[11]
Guyana[11]
Honduras[11]
Jamaica[11][26]
Lesotho[27]
Mexico Mexico[11][28]
Nicaragua[11]
Pakistan Pakistan[29][30]
Panama[11][31]
Paraguay Paraguay[11]
Peru Peru (registration required at 18 years of age)[11]
Saint Kitts and Nevis[11]
Saint Lucia[11]
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines[11]
Tanzania[20]: Per the Tanzania Citizenship Act of 1995, "any child born within the borders of the United Republic of Tanzania, on or after Union Day, 26 April 1964, is granted citizenship of Tanzania, except for children of foreign diplomats."[32]
Trinidad and Tobago[11][33]
Tuvalu[34]
United States United States: The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside".[35] The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" excludes children born to foreign diplomats and children born to enemy forces engaged in hostile occupation of the country's territory.[36] The concept of birthright citizenship applying to the child born of a foreign national in the country without proper credentials has never been formally litigated. However, it was briefly discussed in the dissenting opinion of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898).[37][38] President Donald Trump said he intended to write an executive order to end birthright citizenship in the United States to the children of unauthorized immigrants, who some scholars believe are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.[39]
Uruguay Uruguay[11][40]
Venezuela[11][41]

celandina

Not only an American problem..

BaldBastard

Birthright citizenship and its corollary of equal protection is a basic constitutional right.

All persons born or naturalised in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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I high doubt Trump can change his own Adult diaper let alone the constitution.

What's more to the point is.. once he's impeached for treason, wtf is America going to do about any laws he's changed or people he's appointed? Surly there all voided?

faxxaff

That's not the case. Hasn't been for a long time. While the children are citizens their parents will need to leave the country. They don't have any right to live in the US and are most likely going to take their kid with them .... In such a case citizenship has no real value, today.

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OneHungLo

Are you kidding me? You think the parents leave? Are you familiar with the term anchor baby? Of course the parents don’t leave, that’s their ticket to all the government gibbmedats.

faxxaff

That has changed many moons ago, I think it was Bush who rendered birthright useless. Unless the parents can support themselves they have to leave the country.

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OneHungLo

85% of countries don’t allow it.

directfiesta

back up your numbers ... and please do no show your asshole and shit coming out of it , unless Currently Sober requests it.....

Your original claim :

No wonder you are a Trumptardski ....

OneHungLo

You’re completely 100% misinformed.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Households-Children


The illegals can’t get it but their kids do so by proxy they get it.

Bladewire

Wrong.

Illegal parents are deported

An American child does not "anchor" them to America.

"It's important to note that having an "anchor baby" won't do much to help a Mexican mom become a U.S. citizen. Because citizen children cannot sponsor their parents for citizenship until they turn 21 -- and because if the parents were ever illegal, they would have to return home for 10 years before applying to come in"

OneHungLo

We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.

Wrong as always.

Plus these illegals live in democratic sanctuary cities so they don’t get deported.

King Mark

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/il...rant-benefits/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/43...tamps-illegal/

Etc...

just a punk

AFAIK you are not a native American but a son of some immigrants too. Am I wrong? Your mom is Apache and your dad is Cherokee? ;)

Almost all white Americans (I mean both South and North continents) are children of Euro-Asian immigrants. All black Americans are children of slaves from Africa. So don't forget about your own native roots - you're just a guest on the American Indian land.

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Bladewire

Wrong

Illegals and asylum-seekers here while their immigration case is under review are deported shortly after.

Yes, you are a racist. We know this. But you should be honest in your presentation of facts, this is very rare for racists though as constant lying is part of their mental disability.

Bladewire

The truth is like Kryptonite to racist Trump supporters.

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OneHungLo

There's like 20-30 million illegals in this country you moron.

OneHungLo

That's just some word trickery. Sure, illegals technically don't get the benefits but if they have an anchor baby they do by proxy through the anchor baby. You're fine with your tax dollars paying to support them?

OneHungLo

Technically they're Siberian immigrants.

King Mark

Stupidest shit I ever read from a racist. Who's country did they immigrate to?

just a punk

Siberia is located in Europe and in Asia, so it's Eurasia (Euro-Asia).

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OneHungLo

Much evidence suggest evil whitey was here before the siberians came.


New archaeological evidence suggests that America was first discovered by Stone Age people from Europe – 10,000 years before the Siberian-originating ancestors of the American Indians set foot in the New World.

A remarkable series of several dozen European-style stone tools, dating back between 19,000 and 26,000 years, have been discovered at six locations along the US east coast. Three of the sites are on the Delmarva Peninsular in Maryland, discovered by archaeologist Dr Darrin Lowery of the University of Delaware. One is in Pennsylvania and another in Virginia. A sixth was discovered by scallop-dredging fishermen on the seabed 60 miles from the Virginian coast on what, in prehistoric times, would have been dry land.

The new discoveries are among the most important archaeological breakthroughs for several decades - and are set to add substantially to our understanding of humanity's spread around the globe.

https://phys.org/news/2012-02-europe...tools-age.html

King Mark

Lmao....

OneHungLo

You guys would lose it if they had concrete evidence. What would you guys hang your hat on if you didn't have that nonsense to spew out.

How many times a year do you think you cry about whitey "stealing" indian land 400 years ago?

King Mark

You're officially off your rocker. Oldest humans remains found on north America's continent are older than white people as a "race" bro. Y'all didn't even exist yet lol.

OneHungLo

If you ever wonder why snopes is so full of shit, it's because they rely on people not reading the whole article. They put up that "mostly false" icon and people think 'oh it's bullshit' and click off.

The article centers around this meme:



If you read that article they go though each point and basically admit it's mostly all true.

So yeah, if you're an illegal you can work and get a job. So that's true.

So yeah, if you're an illegal you can, in 12 states, get a driver's license. So that's true.


So if you're an illegal and have kids, yes you can get them. So that one is a little wishywashy but if you have an anchor baby you can get them.



Illegals come here and pop out a kid and they get housing vouchers / section8. So that's true. Technically illegals don't, but they do via proxy though their anchor babies.



They all get cared for. They walk in and don't pay. They get free health care. So this is true.


They admit right there "Low-income undocumented immigrants are also eligible for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)" so that is true.

100% true. Free education.


Now this is total bullshit. I have no idea where they got that but out of all the statemetns this is the only one that is false.



So 7 out of the 8 statements you could say are mostly true. One being totally false. So how the fuck do they slap on a mostly false on this? Total bullshit.

PR_Glen

ask a human some time. Maybe you'll get it. Probably not..


Also.. why is it mostly only the unemployable that complain about such things?

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OneHungLo

30 countries allow it (per your own link). There are 195 countries in the world.

84.6153846154% of countries don't allow it. Better?



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Bladewire

Racial insecurity is a mental disorder.

Notice how the racially insecure on GFY are the ones you can't have an honest conversation with?

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pimpmaster9000

you will never ban this because it will be a great thing to get people to rally against you come next elections...you can ban it until next elections

fuck you OP

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OneHungLo

cruci is a great litmus test for everything in the US. He hates us and would love nothing more if we were reduced to rubble and ashes.

So whatever he is for, go against.

He hates Trump = You should love Trump.
He loves illegal invaders = You should hate illegal invaders.
He loves islam = You should hate islam.
He loves socialism = You should hate socialism.
He loves open borders = You should hate open borders.

And so on...

shake

I think it makes more sense that children aquire the citizenship of their parents rather than the country where they were born. Kind of an old fashioned idea with the cheap travel you can do today.

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kane

In the past I have said we need to end birthright citizenship at least for a little while or modify it to make it that at least one of your parents is a citizen.

IMO we don't need a wall. The wall won't help very much. If we want to be serious about ending illegal immigration we need to stop birthright citizenship so people won't come here, have babies, then use them to get welfare. And we have to go after businesses that hire illegals. I'm not talking about small places that might accidentally hire an illegal who has a good fake ID, I'm talking about big companies that hire many illegals. The agriculture, construction, and food prep industries in this country operate heavily on the backs of illegals.

If people know they won't be able to get welfare or a job when they come here illegally, they will stop coming here illegally.

OneHungLo

I agree with everything you said. Only problem when I say it I get called a racist

The thing with Mexicans is they have quite a few things going against them. A few being the majority of them are low on the IQ spectrum, they do low-skilled jobs that pay shit and when you couple all that with their high birth rates, most if not all end up on some form of government assistance.

I saw some statistics that said 60-70% of Mexican (illegal and legal) immigrants receive some form of welfare whereas only 7% of UK immigrants do. That's a huge disparity you can't ignore.

mce

The text in bold above is viewed by RIGHTWING legal scholars to preclude birthright citizenship

The problem with that analysis? EVERYONE on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction otherwise local, county, state, or federal authorities can't prosecute and jail you....

The only exception? Accredited diplomats

Indeed, the legilsative record (minutes of congress folk deliberating the amendment) talk about diplomatic consequences...

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pimpmaster9000

its not abuse if somebody states the truth...you are a low skill high school drop out who could not afford to go back to his country but stayed in a cheap one like some anchor husband

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