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Struggle4Bucks · 04-16-2019, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

i think he is even using 100% - the problem is at the brainsize 100% from nothing is....let me get my calculator......

LOL!!!

You are right now I remember: The net contribution to the EU for the UK is 1.25% of UK’s annual total budget.

Its so easy to mix these numbers up.

DraX · 04-16-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

here's what the dude thinks what will save Germany and the western world - Beatrix von Storch

Just a proof of your narrowed feminized mind agreeing on anything the established media and politics are telling you.

AFD is the only opposition in Germany, Afd exists for a reason, reasons the rest of the political parties doesn't deal with. It's very simple.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-17-2019, 12:55 AM

brexit magic beans did not grow

Struggle4Bucks · 04-17-2019, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

brexit magic beans did not grow

Nope... Paul tried to moisten the bean field with flying water tankers...
Destroyed the field! No beans this year!

Sarn · 04-17-2019, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Cruci and his shit country will be fine in the EU. They will get billions from the richer nations, workers can migrate to places of higher wages and put native workers out of a job and get jobs from companies relocating for cheaper labour.

good action for destroying the middle class, exeption worker class.
local workers, it main patriotic army power

Paul Markham · 04-17-2019, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

what "skilled" british workes you are talking about - you don´t have any.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rkers-britain/

i think the problem is not for those to find work in the EU - the problem is that britain have a BIG problem to find workers.

look here

and this with a number of emplyed persons that britain NEVER had before

look here

The UK will issue work visas for EU skilled workers. The benefit of leaving is they are now freer to issue them to non-EU workers.

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no ? how comes that the industry part of the GDP is only 9,4% and gives work for 8% of all workers?

Let me explain what dead means. It would have to be at 0% to be dead. Did your economics degree leave that part out.

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you think 60 million can shoulder that problem but 500 million will not?
from who do you think will the rest of the world buy when they can chose between a SELLING market of 60 and 500 million.
and WHAT shall they buy from britain. with what kind of price you can compete when your productivity is in average so much lower as in US and the EU ?

and how can your national gross product grow when all the highpaid workers that come mainly from the financial sector are gone.

WHO buys than the Jaguars ? the farmers that voted for the brexit?

after the brexit britain will even rely MORE on the export as now.
but you have left the biggest trading community in the world because you think you can do better. good luck !

So why do does Europe need to ruled from the centre? You're quoting the benefits of the Common Market. If all EU countries were given the option of going back to the Common Market or stay in the EU. The EU is finished.

Give us reasons for the EU, not reasons for a trade deal within Europe.

Struggle4Bucks · 04-17-2019, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Let me explain what dead means. It would have to be at 0% to be dead. Did your economics degree leave that part out.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It would have to be at 0% to be dead.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

0%

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Let me explain what dead means.

Do you suffer from selective opportunistic babblings or do you agree paysites are not dead??????????????????????????????

Paul Markham · 04-17-2019, 03:54 AM

Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within?

As we can see the two Germans on the board are against democracy within the EU. They continually come up with reasons for a good trade deal between European countries and little else. Even Stefan's reasons are pretty insignificant against the fuck ups the EU bureaucrats keep making.

Euro
CAP
Freedom of movement.
Illegal immigration.
Eurozone Growth
Unemployment
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2...kes-of-the-eu/

https://www.cer.eu/insights/eu-must-...er-past-decade

This is the quality of the people the EU have to rule a Union of countries so diverse it's impossible to come up with any law that suits everyone.

When you examine the list of Eurozone countries you see how inept these leaders are. Decisions driven by economics and sound monetary policies were thrown out to give it to anyone who asked. Then when central controller on spending and borrowing against the Euro, that was ignored. To their peril.

Even the enlargement of the EU is driven by sentiment rather than sound economic reasons. Allowing countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Malta, Cyprus, etc into the the EU achieved nothing. Giving them voting rights in a parliament is a recipe for disaster. All avoidable with just a trade deal.

So where are the reasons to continue down the road to Centralist rule?

Paul Markham · 04-17-2019, 03:55 AM

Thommy still waiting for you to explain how everyone will be elite in your new world.

Explaining it is crucial if you want to be taken seriously.

Sarn · 04-17-2019, 06:15 AM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...rowth-six.html

pimpmaster9000 · 04-17-2019, 06:25 AM

maybe dumbass paul should explain why the magic beans aint growin'?

Paul Markham · 04-17-2019, 02:44 PM

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1RT1HM

https://www.politico.eu/article/parl...on-projection/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ean-elections/

Will the undemocratic EU allow the people to destroy it?

thommy · 04-18-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Thommy still waiting for you to explain how everyone will be elite in your new world.

Explaining it is crucial if you want to be taken seriously.

you bore me to death.

no matter what I or other people, (that have spent many years learning what they are talking about) tells you - you don't understand.

you may still be alive - which I am really happy about - but your brain has probably already crossed the rainbow bridge during the birth process.

honestly, i personally don't see you as one at the lowest moral level. i even believe that you are firmly convinced that your recipes serve the good of mankind.

however, your intelligence level is at a really frightening level. i really wonder how you manage to turn on the computer without outside help.

if unworldliness, uneducation, ignorance and unprofessionality need a common name at some point, they should take yours.

DraX · 04-18-2019, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

you bore me to death.

no matter what I or other people, (that have spent many years learning what they are talking about) tells you - you don't understand.

you may still be alive - which I am really happy about - but your brain has probably already crossed the rainbow bridge during the birth process.

honestly, i personally don't see you as one at the lowest moral level. i even believe that you are firmly convinced that your recipes serve the good of mankind.

however, your intelligence level is at a really frightening level. i really wonder how you manage to turn on the computer without outside help.

if unworldliness, uneducation, ignorance and unprofessionality need a common name at some point, they should take yours.

Clearly Thommy believes he's part of the 1% elite, an arrogant clueless dipshit unable to think outside his own bubble.

Oh thommy, This week I convinced two more Germans to vote AFD in EU election. Good stuff.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-18-2019, 11:37 PM

maybe dumbass paul should explain why the brexit magic beans aint growing?

Tasty1 · 04-19-2019, 01:12 AM

There where many bankers with big university degrees, 99% didn't see the crisis coming. Many of those well educated people didn't also see Trump winning the elections. There is a good movie about that where 1 man went short on the housing market, he found out the problem before the crash.

Last time the dream of a 1 big Europe collapsed also cause there where some countries (1 to be exact), that wanted to rule everyone and dictate how to live and kill the people who rejected that view. You see the same happening again, not much killing yet though. But that can change when politicans get murdered. We must see if the bullet comes from the left or the right.

Paul Markham · 04-19-2019, 05:16 AM

Debate the points raised in the video.

Paul Markham · 04-19-2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

you bore me to death.

no matter what I or other people, (that have spent many years learning what they are talking about) tells you - you don't understand.

you may still be alive - which I am really happy about - but your brain has probably already crossed the rainbow bridge during the birth process.

honestly, i personally don't see you as one at the lowest moral level. i even believe that you are firmly convinced that your recipes serve the good of mankind.

however, your intelligence level is at a really frightening level. i really wonder how you manage to turn on the computer without outside help.

if unworldliness, uneducation, ignorance and unprofessionality need a common name at some point, they should take yours.

Every reason you've come up for the EU to be ruled by a centralist group dominated by small group of people I've countered with good reasons for not rule by a centralist group. So you resort to insults. Now tell me how the populist movement is anti-democratic.

thommy · 04-19-2019, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

There where many bankers with big university degrees, 99% didn't see the crisis coming. Many of those well educated people didn't also see Trump winning the elections. There is a good movie about that where 1 man went short on the housing market, he found out the problem before the crash.

this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.

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Last time the dream of a 1 big Europe collapsed also cause there where some countries (1 to be exact), that wanted to rule everyone and dictate how to live and kill the people who rejected that view. You see the same happening again, not much killing yet though. But that can change when politicans get murdered. We must see if the bullet comes from the left or the right.

all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

Struggle4Bucks · 04-19-2019, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

however, your intelligence level is at a really frightening level. i really wonder how you manage to turn on the computer without outside help.

His wife turns the computer on every morning before she leaves for work.

Struggle4Bucks · 04-19-2019, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Every reason you've come up for the EU to be ruled by a centralist group dominated by small group of people I've countered with good reasons for not rule by a centralist group.

Simply not true! Its the other way around: Thommy completely destroyed all your arguments!!!!

Sarn · 04-19-2019, 08:28 AM

Ukraine will be in EU.)) Who will pay them?))

Sarn · 04-19-2019, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

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i think they call that DEMOCRACY

Brexit it was a democracy. Peoples want to leave. You do not care about them - they not care about your EU. Tommy it easy for understanding))

Tasty1 · 04-19-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.

all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

So all bankers went short and became rich, if they knew. They have the knowledge how they could profit, but only a handfull did.

There was never a vote that the EU would become a political union with so many influence. Now you vote for a party in Holland that will sent a person to the EU. There they must work together with other EU parties to get a majority. So you vote CDA in Holland, but realy profiting is bunga bunga party Berlusconi who is in that same group.

I just have a question. Without looking it up, what are the biggest EU parties and what German parties are connected to what EU party?.... That are the people ruling us.

We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy. just like in England.

klinton · 04-19-2019, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy.

lol lol lol this is just ridiculous, if it wouldnt be so sad......

Struggle4Bucks · 04-19-2019, 03:34 PM

Paul Markham · 04-20-2019, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

this is completely wrong - they all knew it but played the game as long it worked.

all and everything in the EU is decided by votes.
tell me wich decision was not based on a vote.

and yes - every voting system have the problem that there will always be a minoroity that does not get it the way they want.
i think they call that DEMOCRACY

Again you show how foolish you are.

I've consistently said the most intelligent are not in politics of bureaucrats. They didn't see the crash coming, not in America, EU, UK, Iceland or anywhere. The bankers did and knew they were too big to fail and would get bailed out by the people. Not the politician, bureaucrats or banks. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

Sarn · 04-20-2019, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

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We had a 'referendum' twice in Holland. The politicians asked a question, the people answered and the politicans ignored it twice cause the outcome didn't fit. So the completely banned referenda now. Better not let people vote to many times… too much democracy. just like in England.

so progressive so tolerant so european
democracy and freedom

Sarn · 04-20-2019, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

exactly

pimpmaster9000 · 04-20-2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

pimpmaster9000 · 04-20-2019, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

Paul Markham · 04-20-2019, 10:07 AM

https://gfy.com/22455812-post43.html

thommy · 04-20-2019, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Again you show how foolish you are.

I've consistently said the most intelligent are not in politics of bureaucrats. They didn't see the crash coming, not in America, EU, UK, Iceland or anywhere. The bankers did and knew they were too big to fail and would get bailed out by the people. Not the politician, bureaucrats or banks. So why do you claim the EU is led by superior thinkers? The evidence shows NO.

so you mean the most intelligent are the people out there???

ok so what about this?

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...ould-you-vote/

38% pro brexit - now explain me WICH people you are referring to when you talk about the will of the people ?

if there is another referendum and it goes in the other direction, will you fight for the will of the people also ?

i doubt it because you aren´t a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

Sarn · 04-20-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy

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i doubt it because you aren´t a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

in the end, Tommy said - democracy it is bad because people choose not right guys, not from his destructive liberal sect

thommy · 04-20-2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn

in the end, Tommy said - democracy it is bad because people choose not right guys, not from his destructive liberal sect

you should maybe read what i said and not try to interpret what i said.
these are just simple and very easy to understand words. nobody is that dumb to need a translation from a vodka addicted russian that glorifies nazi ideology.

Paul Markham · 04-21-2019, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

so you mean the most intelligent are the people out there???

ok so what about this?

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/question...ould-you-vote/

38% pro brexit - now explain me WICH people you are referring to when you talk about the will of the people ?

if there is another referendum and it goes in the other direction, will you fight for the will of the people also ?

i doubt it because you aren´t a person that accepts democracy. you are just like the other right wing assholes that want to USE democracy with the goal to destroy it.

unfortunately you do not realize that in this world of your dreams dumbs are the last ones that will profit - you are just cannon fodder for those that easy brainwash you.

If you would have been as intelligent as you claim. You would have noticed the Thread title and my consistent stance through this thread. It's to stay in the EU and destroy it from within.

Proof you're not as bright as you claim.

If as this video claims MEPs are not as powerful as we are led to believe, then the EU isn't democratic.

You just can't win can you? Try picking on someone with the same level of intelligence as you. You'll find them in kindergartens.

Paul Markham · 04-21-2019, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

you should maybe read what i said and not try to interpret what i said.
these are just simple and very easy to understand words. nobody is that dumb to need a translation from a vodka addicted russian that glorifies nazi ideology.

So if the Right Wing make significant advances in the coming election, you will support their cause.

pimpmaster9000 · 04-21-2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

paul should explain to everybody why his brexit magic beans are not growing

DraX · 05-06-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

sorry but those things are just happening in your head, I have only stated poll numbers that contradict Markhams ramblings.

But: I would vote Green anyday over any right wing party. Because I rather hang out with a bunch of hippies than a bunch of nazis.

but maybe that's just me.

Perhabs that is more fitting your kind who has no principles whatsoever.

I guess you rather hang out with hippies like Daniel Cohn-Bendit who resides within the green party in Germany and also has a spot in the EU parliament and friend with Guy Verhofstadt.

What he said in a tv-show many years ago would ruin most politicians:

Just want to emphasize the fact that this is a youtube accepted video and nothing illegal.

Paul Markham · 05-07-2019, 03:00 AM

Voting for parties that will cripple the EU and do away with the Centralist power groups is essential if you want to keep your democratic rights.

The #1 essential element of the EU is a trade deal between European nations, that was in place before the creation of the EU and destroying the EU will not destroy the trade deal.

thommy · 05-07-2019, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Voting for parties that will cripple the EU and do away with the Centralist power groups is essential if you want to keep your democratic rights.

The #1 essential element of the EU is a trade deal between European nations, that was in place before the creation of the EU and destroying the EU will not destroy the trade deal.

why don´t you invite some al kaida terrorists to your birthday party ?

you are such a fool !

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within? Should the people vote to destroy the EU from within? As we can see the two Germans on the board are against democracy within the EU. They continually come up with reasons for a good trade deal between European countries and little else. Even Stefan's reasons are pretty insignificant against the fuck ups the EU bureaucrats keep making. Euro CAP Freedom of movement. Illegal immigration. Eurozone Growth Unemployment https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2...kes-of-the-eu/ https://www.cer.eu/insights/eu-must-...er-past-decade This is the quality of the people the EU have to rule a Union of countries so diverse it's impossible to come up with any law that suits everyone. When you examine the list of Eurozone countries you see how inept these leaders are. Decisions driven by economics and sound monetary policies were thrown out to give it to anyone who asked. Then when central controller on spending and borrowing against the Euro, that was ignored. To their peril. Even the enlargement of the EU is driven by sentiment rather than sound economic reasons. Allowing countries like Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Malta, Cyprus, etc into the the EU achieved nothing. Giving them voting rights in a parliament is a recipe for disaster. All avoidable with just a trade deal. So where are the reasons to continue down the road to Centralist rule? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,255	There where many bankers with big university degrees, 99% didn't see the crisis coming. Many of those well educated people didn't also see Trump winning the elections. There is a good movie about that where 1 man went short on the housing market, he found out the problem before the crash. Last time the dream of a 1 big Europe collapsed also cause there where some countries (1 to be exact), that wanted to rule everyone and dictate how to live and kill the people who rejected that view. You see the same happening again, not much killing yet though. But that can change when politicans get murdered. We must see if the bullet comes from the left or the right.

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Voting for parties that will cripple the EU and do away with the Centralist power groups is essential if you want to keep your democratic rights. The #1 essential element of the EU is a trade deal between European nations, that was in place before the creation of the EU and destroying the EU will not destroy the trade deal. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70