Guess it's airplane crash time again...

[crockett]

2 Days ago a 737 slid off the runway into St Johns river here in FL up in Jacksonville.. Everyone lived but the plane was completely in the water..

Now today a airliner has crashed in Moscow..

[Bladewire]

It's not surprising that another Russin made plane crashed in Russia. They are the worst engineers on the planet.

[VRPdommy]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

It's not surprising that another Russin made plane crashed in Russia. They are the worst engineers on the planet.

To be fair, they have very good engineers. but much like many petrochemical co's in the US, it's all about the maintenance.
Auto's here were fairly well engineered in the 80's, but the bean counters beat the engineers.
Something that changed in the 90's with increased competition.

Always more to consider.

The 737max8 was not poorly engineered but some bean counter had override of some engineers. The engineer will always make work with what they are given limits to make work, even if they do not agree with marketing or budget/finance. They do as they are told, it's their job.

just trying to underline a perspective in support of engineers everywhere.

[SilentKnight]

Wondering if they were attempting to jettison fuel before attempting to land and fuel ignited as they touched down. With the nose so high in the air looks as though the landing gear may not have deployed - maybe a belly landing.

Death count up to 40 atm.

Sad.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Wondering if they were attempting to jettison fuel before attempting to land and fuel ignited as they touched down. With the nose so high in the air looks as though the landing gear may not have deployed - maybe a belly landing.

Death count up to 40 atm.

Sad.

Excellent point

Dying in a plane is no way to go

Russia sucks man

[VRPdommy]

I would not make to many guesses about the cause just yet.
It could be something stupid like a lithium battery fire that started in in a cargo bay. They do not have many of the rules most of us have on such things.
But you have to feel bad for the loss of life in any case.

[incredibleworkethic]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Excellent point

Dying in a plane is no way to go

Russia sucks man

Hard to watch even though it's a movie!

[Bladewire]

↑↑↑ Truth

[BaldBastard]

The first passengers getting off the Ruski flight all had hand luggage, makes you wonder how many died so they could get their bags down, and the training of the flight crews.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

The first passengers getting off the Ruski flight all had hand luggage, makes you wonder how many died so they could get their bags down, and the training of the flight crews.

Overhead compartments need a lock controlled in the cockpit to prevent this.

[crockett]

I thought the Russian one burnt on the runway waiting to take off.

Edit n/m it was moving.. maybe it was landing or taking off? Was video on YouTube with flames burning on the engine wing as it was moving.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by crockett

I thought the Russian one burnt on the runway waiting to take off.

Edit n/m it was moving.. maybe it was landing or taking off? Was video on YouTube with flames burning on the engine wing as it was moving.

It was taking off yeah...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

It was taking off yeah...

Russia sucks

[escorpio]

crockett is Florida Man.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crockett

Now today a airliner has crashed in Moscow..

Did it crash or catch fire? I saw an article where a plane in Russia caught fire but landed safely.... Which would be scary as all fuck.

[Bladewire]

Russian planes have the worst crash record history of any other manufacturer of airplanes.

[Rochard]

Looks like I didn't catch the full story... Lighting strike caused the plane to catch fire, and thought it landed... 41 people killed.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...C-n8pvBQxOrZJ0

How horrible.

[beerptrol]

First thing that came to mind while watching the plane go up in flames down the runway was that DC 10 crash in Iowa around 1989

[NatalieK]

there was problems on take off, so the plane turned around and the fire started on landing...

it certainly sounds like engine & mechanical problems


https://aviationvoice.com/aeroflot-a...2-201905061403

[just a punk]

Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.



Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Looks like I didn't catch the full story... Lighting strike caused the plane to catch fire, and thought it landed... 41 people killed.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...C-n8pvBQxOrZJ0

How horrible.

no, the lightening created communications problems.

The fire didn´t start until the plane hit the tarmac, as the flight was turned around due to the communications problems.

They´re hoping the black box gives more info... it may have been the cause, but it´s not certain as yet

[Anthony BongaCash]

the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Anthony BongaCash

the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane

Yea I read that. It's completely fucked up.. WTf were they thinking..

[nikki99]

now is in mexico

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.

Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.

if it was due to the lightening, then you´re damn right about this being a bag of crap, as lightening isn´t meant to effect planes these days...

even if it didn´t create the fire, the lightening did create a communications malfunction, which is why they turned the plane around to land again...

so no matter, this is a flying bag of crap

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CyberAIDS

Everything that was made by Putin and his gang is a shit.



Just a month ago I have posted about this plane here. I said it's banned in the EU because it's a flying garbage.

Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by AIDSwire

Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles

Indeed That's why Soviet-designed nukes are in service currently. All those old good SS-29, SS-18 "Satan", SS-27 "Sickle B", SS-19 "Stiletto" etc (a complete list is here) are the main Russian weapon today because everybody knows the USSR nukes are the most powerful and the most reliable on planet Earth - just ask Google

P.S. Yes, they are not Russian. They are 100% Soviet invention. The missiles designed in the USSR are powerful and very reliable, so that's why they are in service now.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles

Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia can't make planes but wants us to think they've created accurate supersonic nuclear missiles

Check this out https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Anthony BongaCash

the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane

not the first time that this happened, I wonder what goes through the head of someone trying to get his luggage from the overhead compartment while the plane is on fire.

this will someday lead to the point where either the compartments will be locked during takeoff and landing or hand luggage will be completely forbidden.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model

Unfortunately you are talking about Su-25/Su-37 jet fighters. These are also known as "UFO" and their development started in 1983 - even before Gorbachev... They are really more manageable than F22... but they are not Russian. They are SOVIET. They were designed long before Putin became a president of Russia. Everything what Putin has is a legacy of the USSR. But he has got a great skill to turn into shit just everything.







They are definitely the best ones, but they are just our legacy from the more advanced era

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by Anthony BongaCash

the sad thing with a Russian plane that people died because some of the passengers tried to save their luggage by that blocking the exit for those who were in the tail of the plane

People are self important assholes...

[Anthony BongaCash]

Originally Posted by StefanG

not the first time that this happened, I wonder what goes through the head of someone trying to get his luggage from the overhead compartment while the plane is on fire.

this will someday lead to the point where either the compartments will be locked during takeoff and landing or hand luggage will be completely forbidden.

you're right, everything leads to this but nothing and no one can change such people. if it was up to me, I would have sent them to prison

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Russia makes great planes. Their latest migs can do maneuvers that make tge f16 and f22 look like an rc model

Look at you licking Putin's ass. What a patriot

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Check this out https://youtu.be/MpPSPQq7oas

Crap scrap compared to America's F-35 Lightening II.

The 2015 video you link 2 was made before the f-35 came out.

[just a punk]

I'll just leave it here: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...s-report-42892

1) It's too early to speak about a very raw jet.
2) I haven't noticed any maneuverability on both videos, posted by AIDSwire above. As about a vertical take-off, so even old good Harrier of 1961 can do that.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Crap scrap compared to America's F-35 Lightening II.

The 2015 video you link 2 was made before the f-35 came out.

while i´m all euro, loving the eurofighter, i´ll have to agree with agility and fighters, the f-35 is something beyond recognition, as there´s no other reason Britain purchasing 40 of them and spending billion on them to fill the new war ship

An incredible aircraft, as is the eurofighter, but yes, the lightening is a shade more agile, it´s a fighter and not a bomber and fighter as the eurofighter is